
Math & Magic: Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing with Bob Pittman
How do the smartest marketers and business entrepreneurs cut through the noise? And how do they manage to do it again and again? It's a combination of math—the strategy and analytics—and magic, the creative spark. Join iHeartMedia Chairman and CEO Bob Pittman as he analyzes the Math and Magic of marketing—sitting down with today's most gifted disruptors and compelling storytellers.
Latest episodes

May 8, 2025 • 38min
Bobby Bones: “Tenacity is a talent.”
Bobby Bones has been called “the most powerful man in country music.” Host of the nationally syndicated country music radio program, The Bobby Bones Show, and the podcast, Bobbycast, millions of Americans consider him a friend. Audio is his bread and butter, but he’s also made a name for himself on TV, as a mentor on American Idol, the host of Breaking Bobby Bones on the National Geographic Channel, and as a winner of Dancing With the Stars. He’s from a small town in Arkansas where his youth was largely defined by poverty and instability. Today, he considers the perspective it gave him one of his biggest strengths. Bobby joins Bob to share insights about ambition and tenacity, the power of country music, and how emotional intelligence is the strongest skill an interviewer can have.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 24, 2025 • 34min
Ron Howard: “Understand the entertainment value of an idea.”
Ron Howard is an Academy Award, Golden Globe, Emmy, and Grammy award-winning film director. With work spanning from comedies like Splash and Parenthood to critically acclaimed dramas like Apollo 13, Frost/Nixon and A Beautiful Mind, he is one of the most popular and prolific filmmakers of the last 50 years. His first on-screen appearance was at just 18 months old and he was cast as Opie on The Andy Griffith Show at age five. By the time he was 10, adults on set predicted he would make a great director; but at the time, it was a major challenge to transition from acting to directing feature films. In his conversation with Bob, Ron shares how he leveraged one green light to make that improbable jump, how his feelings about collaboration have changed over his career, and his advice for young people in the entertainment industry today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 17, 2025 • 25min
Bonus Episode: Building Corporate Culture
In this engaging discussion, Remi Kent, CMO at Progressive Insurance and former Global Chief Marketing Officer at 3M, shares her insights on fostering a human-centered corporate culture. She reflects on how the pandemic prompted a reevaluation of values in the workplace. Alongside leaders like Bill Koenigsberg and Norm de Greve, they discuss accountability in leadership and the need for open communication. The conversation also touches on purpose-driven strategies to engage employees and the importance of diversity and work-life balance in creating a thriving corporate environment.

Apr 10, 2025 • 36min
Hugh Howey: “I write for myself.”
Hugh Howey is an international best-selling author whose work has been published in 40 languages. But he’s not just a writer, he’s an entrepreneur in the purest sense. When Hugh self-published a short story, the world demanded more. Soon enough the income from that one story was enough to quit his job to begin work on what became the now-iconic Silo trilogy. Instead of going the traditional route with a publisher, Hugh stuck with his instinct to self-publish, disrupting an entire industry along the way. His conversation with Bob dives into the inspirations and the dollars behind his decision-making. Plus, he talks about turning Silo into the acclaimed AppleTV+ series, how he ended up in a performance of the Nutcracker, and the sailing trip he’s planning to take around the world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 3, 2025 • 36min
Norma Kamali: “Be creative, be original, be innovative.”
Fashion designer Norma Kamali has stayed relevant for generations by tapping into culture, creativity, and technology. In the early 60s, she got a degree from the Fashion Institute of Technology but didn’t fit in with the style of the time. She abandoned design to work for an airline instead, giving her access to travel. During frequent trips to London, Norma discovered a fashion revolution that hadn’t hit the States yet. Soon she would be at the forefront of New York’s changing style. With her famous sweats collection, unforgettable sleeping bag coats, and iconic swimwear, she’s been credited with pioneering trends that still reverberate today. Unlike many designers, Norma never sold her brand, retaining control of both the creative and the business. Listen in to Norma’s conversation with Bob to tap into her wisdom– from the importance of disruption to sourcing creativity to innovative and forward-thinking uses of AI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 27, 2025 • 35min
Tarang Amin: “Embrace what you think is risky.”
Tarang Amin, Chairman and CEO of e.l.f. Beauty, shares his fascinating journey from a family-operated motel to leading a major cosmetics brand. He emphasizes the importance of risk-taking and innovation, highlighting how failures can fuel growth. Tarang discusses the significance of employee ownership and fostering teamwork, as well as the challenges of transitioning to a CEO role amid investor pressures. He advocates for transparency and diversity in leadership, revealing how these values drive creativity and success in the ever-evolving beauty industry.

Mar 20, 2025 • 32min
Damian Maldonado: “You can’t teach motivation.”
Damian Maldonado, co-founder and CEO of American Financing, turned a $5,000 line of credit into a billion-dollar business through sheer determination. He shares his journey from selling candy door-to-door to mastering marketing strategies. Damian emphasizes the importance of fostering a positive company culture and hiring with intention. He discusses overcoming challenges in the mortgage industry and how self-education and innovative thinking can empower entrepreneurs. Plus, his passion for kite surfing and the vibrant culture of Puerto Rico add a personal touch to his inspiring story.

Mar 13, 2025 • 34min
Jewel: “It’s a lot less painful to be honest.”
Jewel, the beloved singer-songwriter with over 30 million albums sold, shares her incredible journey from performing in bars as a child in Alaska to navigating fame and mental health. She reflects on her decision to prioritize honesty over a million-dollar advance and the importance of vulnerability in creativity. Jewel discusses how motherhood transformed her artistic expression and emphasizes the power of community in overcoming personal challenges. Join her for an insightful conversation about finding balance in fame and fostering authentic connections.

Mar 6, 2025 • 34min
Stéphane Bancel: “The upside was changing humanity forever.”
Stéphane Bancel, the CEO of Moderna, shares his incredible journey in pioneering the COVID-19 vaccine. He recounts the early moments of the pandemic that pushed him to pivot Moderna's mission and embrace new risks. Bancel reflects on the leadership challenges faced during rapid vaccine development and the intense pressure to innovate. He also discusses the crucial role of mentorship and the importance of a diverse education. With an eye on the future, he believes Moderna's contributions will redefine healthcare beyond the pandemic.

Feb 27, 2025 • 2min
Math & Magic Returns March 6th
Join iHeartMedia Chairman and CEO Bob Pittman for a new season of Math & Magic: Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. How do the most successful minds in marketing, entertainment, business, and even health and science evolve in an ever-changing world? This season, Bob sits down with visionaries across a wide range of industries to hear how they’ve used data, analytics, and creativity to adapt to new technology, lead strong teams, and build successful businesses that will shape our future.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.