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DemystifySci is Dr. Michael Shilo DeLay and Dr. Anastasia Bendebury. Together they untangle complex theories of nature, making analysis accessible through conversations with exceptional thinkers. Each week they interview a new theorist about the ideas that are going to rewrite our understanding of the world. Power them via Patreon: @demystifysci
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Apr 6, 2023 • 2h 22min
Biofields, Placebo, and Ritual - Dr. Richard Hammerschlag
Dr. Richard Hammerschlag is a retired professor of Eastern medicine who spent his career studying acupuncture and other biofield therapies. We speak with him about the search for mechanism in unconventional medicine, the delicate balance of the spiritual and the physical, conditioning the mind for openness to experience, and the ritualistic nature of health and wellness.
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(00:00:00) Go!
(00:03:37) Acupuncture studies & the biofield
(00:10:39) Testing the untestable
(00:17:17) Fascia is fundamental?
(00:25:23) Converting meaning into physiology
(00:34:58) Neuroendocrinology to Eastern Medicine
(00:49:03) Skepticism and Other Mindsets
(01:03:17) The squish factor
(01:10:59) The cultural component of efficacy
(01:18:03) The arc of a psychedelic experience
(01:25:05) Tuning to the animal world
(01:32:05) Mythology & the Biofield
(01:49:07) The focusing element
(01:57:23) Designing a trial
(02:00:08) Wim Hof
(02:02:56) Michael Levin & Intentionality
(02:11:34) Reiki & Tuning Forks
(02:16:45) Closing Thoughts
#placebo #biofield #acupuncture
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Apr 3, 2023 • 2h 56min
Sumerian Mesoamerican Connection? - Lance Weaver, Geologist
Lance Weaver is a geologist, desert guide, and amateur archaeologist who explores alternative narratives of history since the last ice age. We catch up about new developments in his pole shift research before diving into his paleoarchaeological research on pre-Columbian contact between the Mediterranean and Meso-American cultures. Along the way we wrestle with convergent iconography on both sides of the ocean, bird gods with handbags, anomalous Sumerian artifacts, the true location of Babylon, and the Sons of Light.
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(00:04:43) Updates to the pole shift story
(00:24:27) Alternative versions of prehistory
(00:32:13) Evidence for Egyptian transoceanic travel
(00:34:46) Bird god holding a bag
(00:41:48) Radiometric dates as gospel
(00:44:19) Etruscan figurine in Toluca
(00:47:52) Tree of Life
(00:51:58) Trees, felines, and the waters below
(01:02:37) A convergent evolution?
(01:05:44) Odd North American Artifacts
(01:10:58) Hallstatt Plateau
(01:21:36) Ixtlilxóchitl's History of Mexico
(01:30:12) Nature of cultural exchange
(01:38:51) A master culture?
(01:44:45) The Kolbirn and its Origins
(01:51:57) Ancient traditions & scientific analysis
(02:00:21) Visiting the New World
(02:04:29) What's in the bag?
(02:12:23) King Solomon's Temple
(02:29:09) Where were the hanging gardens of Babylon?
(02:37:14) Changing the World
(02:45:17) The Future
#paleoarchaeology #ancienthistory #seapeoples
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Mar 30, 2023 • 2h 39min
Pitfalls of Willful Ignorance - Dr. John G Williamson, CERN, Quicycle
Dr. John G. Williamson is a founding member of the Quicycle Society, and is back for a third conversation - this time about cosmological, electrical, and institutional questions. He is a veteran of CERN and the R&D division of Philips research who spends his days thinking about the unanswered problems in physics. In his view, there are foundational problems with key physical theories that scientists ignore at their own peril. Solutions to these inconsistencies will not be found at the end of a massively complicated equation that no one really understands - they will be found in the intuitive exploration of natural phenomena. We discuss the nature of the electron, possible causes for red shift, an explanation for charge, and the future of science. there are problems in physics that we can't keep ignoring
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(00:05:33) Relativity, Redshift, and the James Webb
(00:24:44) Electron, Positron, and CERN Detections
(00:40:45) What is Charge?
(00:47:12) Impulse that generates charge
(01:05:57) What could the fundamental stuff be?
(01:16:41) Incompleteness & Free Scalar Mass
(01:27:31) Cosmological stories
(01:43:38) Fred Hoyle's Journey
(01:53:07) What drives you towards this work?
(02:00:41) Proton spin problem
(02:06:08) Garage experiments
(02:11:25) Growing networks
(02:25:00) Can science be saved from math?
(02:30:28) What is work that's worth funding?
(02:37:34) Cultivating Ideas
(02:48:57) Closing thoughts
#physics #demystifysci #redshift
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Mar 27, 2023 • 1h 41min
Teleology of the Universe - Philip Goff, Galileo's Error
Dr. Philip Goff is a philosopher and writer on panpsychism who has recently turned his attention to the teleological aspects of the universe. In his upcoming book he explores the radical idea that perhaps the appearance of humans, animals, and all other life isn’t just a random outcome of pure physics bumping into itself.. it’s a phenomenon that has a grander point on the scale of the universe. We talk about the teleology of life, making it through to the other side of ultra capitalism, the spiritual struggles of success, and much more.
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(00:13:00) The new book
(00:17:08) How to upset literally everyone
(00:21:00) Obstacles to changing your mind
(00:28:42) Confusion about the nature of God
(00:34:34) Risk & reward, order & chaos
(00:39:42) Marduk, Slayer of Commodification
(00:43:28) Self-destructive lifestyles of artists
(00:50:20) Competitive disincentives
(01:02:30) Searching for meaning in stardom
(01:11:01) Control problems of Ultracapitalism
(01:17:04) Psychophysical Harmony
(01:28:15) The Hard Problem of Consciousness
(01:38:15) The definition of a human
(01:42:53) Laplace's Demon and the limitations of physics
#panpsychism #demystifysci #philosophy
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Mar 23, 2023 • 2h 27min
Strange Behaviors of Humans and Magnets - Arnie Benn, Quicycle
Arnie Benn is a writer, composer, designer whose recent work has been focused on the behavior of humans and magnets. In his upcoming book, the Animal in the Mirror, Benn explores the evolutionary patterns still at play in the human mind, with an emphasis on the animalistic aspects that tend to govern cognitive processes. For the Quantum Bicycle Society, he has been exploring material explanations for magnetism as a function of atomic orbitals shape. We talk about music, the endless project of maintaining the landscape of the soul, cosmological mysteries, and material explanations for atomic phenomena.
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00:08:20 Music, recording, and friends
00:12:15 Death, fame, and legacy
00:20:13 The Human Animal
00:30:47 Success & competition
00:41:19 Groupthink
00:50:27 Cultural progress
01:00:18 Good & the definition thereof
01:18:08 Future authoring and facing God
01:21:35 God as consequence
01:27:55 Big Bang and Redshift
01:33:54 Tired light
01:43:00 Experimental search for evidence
01:46:48 Maturity
01:53:16 Humans vs Biology
01:57:56 Intellectual destinations
01:59:46 Quantum bi-Cycle & Ferromagnetism
02:16:50 Marker 20
02:25:40 simplifications
02:29:41 Closing remarks
#quantumarchitecture #demystifysci #physics
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Mar 20, 2023 • 2h 17min
New Gospel of the UAP - Dr. Diana Pasulka, American Cosmic
Dr. Diana Pasulka is a writer and professor of religious studies. Her most recent book, American Cosmos, is a plain-clothes investigation into the way beliefs are constructed, maintained, and exchanged at a cultural level. In it, Pasulka catalogues her journey through the highest echelon of the UAP world, and the surprising identities of the monastic mystics she found there. We talk about disclosure, belief, meaning, the speciation event, and covert government operations.
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(00:05:51) Religious studies, stealth ads, an ethnography
(00:12:30) Media, conjuring, & cyborgs
(00:23:43) Proto-human mythology
(00:39:54) Narratives of other worlds
(00:45:37) Building belief
(00:51:57) Good vs Evil & Media Apocalypse
(00:56:49) AI & Evolution
(01:05:39) Indigenous narratives & the future
(01:16:10) Causes for Optimism
(01:22:56) Hierarchy of beings
(01:29:16) Project bluebook
(01:39:55) Making sense of the phenomenon
(01:46:57) Knock on the Door
(01:56:53) Revolutionary technologies
(02:05:47) Plurality of the future
(02:11:24) Psychonauts & pure experience
(02:15:19) Closing remarks
#AmericanCosmic #uap #religiousstudies
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Mar 16, 2023 • 2h 38min
Sub Atomic Architecture - Dr. John G. Williamson, CERN, Quicycle
Dr. John G. Williamson is a well-known researcher and author whose work on particle physics, nano electronics, and on the physical foundations of atomic phenomena has been cited nearly 14,000 times. During his time at the advanced theoretical and experimental group at Philips Research, Williamson was part of the project that designed the first solid-state single electron device, and was able to take measurements of electrons in the quantum state. and discovered that they were enormous; in certain conditions, they were tens of nanometers across. This discovery, combined with his skepticism over particle physics that he acquired during his time at CERN, set him off on a new quest: to be the first person to truly understand the nature of the electron. With his Philips colleague Martin van der Mark, Williamson started the Quantum Bi-Cycle Society, which explores the physical foundation for atomic phenomena and hopes to settle, once and for all, the mysterious nature of the atom. We talk to him about the architectural principles necessary to satisfy the equations of quantum mechanics, serious problems with the quark model, the relationship between spin and charge, and why the definition of time is not the same thing as the nature of time.
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Mar 13, 2023 • 1h 55min
Aliens Unlike Us - Dr. Anthony Aveni, Archeoastronomer
Dr. Anthony Aveni has been writing about the relationship between humans and our astronomical habitat for more than fifty years. His latest work is inspired by a renewed interest in a more... biological aspect of the cosmos: Aliens. In his new book, Aliens Like Us, he explores why our stories about extraterrestrial visitation are just so, so boring. Rather than imagining a true “other” reaching out and contacting Earth, we seem to just be inventing a capitalist dystopia *in space,* with alien visitors who are just extracting resources or looking for potential experimental subjects. Aveni proposes a more interesting way of looking at it, where instead of just imagining ourselves from the future coming for a visit, we actually come up with something truly interesting.
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#archaeoastronomy #archaeology #ancienthistory
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Mar 9, 2023 • 1h 51min
Journey to the Edge: Structure of the Heliosphere - Dr. Eric Zirnstein, Princeton University
Erik Zirnstein is a researcher at Princeton's Space Physics Group who is studying the outermost reaches of our solar system - the place where the heliosphere meets the interstellar medium. But how do you study something so large when you’re so very, very small? We explore the science behind the heliosphere and the interstellar medium, and the cutting-edge technologies that enable us to explore this structures found in this mysterious region of space, the sun as a point source, the slow but steady progress of technological advancements, layer-cake records preserved in the heliotail, and intriguing mysteries of the interstellar medium.
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Mar 6, 2023 • 2h 21min
Uncovering the Truth About America's Pre-Colonial History - Charles Mann, 1491
Charles Mann is a historian, journalist, and author known for groundbreaking non-fiction books. He was the first to challenge the traditional view of Americas before European contact, arguing that indigenous populations were much more advanced and populous than previously believed. Mann suggests that when colonists arrived, they encountered a native population that was already in decline due to various epidemics. By rewriting entrenched histories to more accurately reflect the past we gain a clearer understanding of the present and a better sense of what the future holds. In this interview we explore topics such as the resurgence of the buffalo, the sovereignty of conquered nations, and the conspiracy of fire.
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