Rage Against the Cathedral - Curtis Yarvin, Dark Enlightenment - DSci 181
Aug 28, 2023
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Curtis Yarvin, blogger from the Dark Enlightenment movement, discusses the failure of democracy and the emergence of science as a tool of trust and power. They explore the degradation of democracy and the burden of proof in a simulation-like world. They also touch on topics like conspiracies, dissidence, parsing history, and the selection of a monarch.
The rise of the internet and access to information has necessitated the critical evaluation of credibility in epistemology.
The digital environment's influx of misinformation challenges the marketplace of ideas and erodes trust in traditional expertise.
The corruption of science emphasizes the misuse of funding, conflicts of interest among scientists, and the need to differentiate science from engineering.
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The Shift Towards Epistemological Openness
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The Challenge of Epistemology in the Digital Age
The episode highlights the difficulty of determining truth and evidence in the online landscape. The example of Bigfoot stories categorized by geographical location raises questions about credibility and believability. It also touches on the challenges of distinguishing between genuine experiences and fabricated narratives in areas such as spirituality and folklore.
The Impact of the Internet on Epistemology
The podcast delves into the repercussions of the internet's influence on epistemology. It argues that the concept of the marketplace of ideas, which assumes the best ideas will prevail, becomes problematic in a digital environment filled with misinformation, conspiracy theories, and subjective narratives. The discussion raises concerns about the role of social media, the limitations of scientific research, and the erosion of trust in traditional expertise.
Misunderstanding of Progressivism in Russia
The podcast episode delves into the misconception of progressivism in Russia during the communist era. It highlights that in Russia, those who opposed the communist system were not viewed as progressives, unlike in Western countries where communism proponents were often seen as progressives. The speaker notes the historical context and the different interpretations of progressivism between Russia and the West.
The Corruption of Science and the Misuse of Funding
The podcast episode discusses the corruption of science and the misuse of funding. It points out that the scientific method is often misused as an engineering approach, prioritizing desired outcomes and funding sources, rather than focusing on the pursuit of truth. This leads to conflicts of interest among scientists, as well as a centralization of funding sources. The episode emphasizes the need to differentiate between science and engineering, and to understand the limitations of scientific methods in certain domains.
Curtis Yarvin is a blogger from the Dark Enlightenment movement, who advocates for the position that democracy is a failed experiment that should be replaced with an accountable monarchy that mirrors the structure at the top of corporations. One of the main points of evidence for how democracy has failed is the emergence of science as a phenomenon of trust and power, where consensus is used as a cudgel to nudge and motivate the behavior of populations, downstream of a complex mixture of financial and personal incentives. We talk about the nature of this degradation, the burden of proof in a world that's one step short of a simulation, and the path our from the crisis we're in.
(00:00:17) Bigfoot
(00:07:34) Conspiracies
(00:10:22) Giants in Afghanistan
(00:14:10) Patreon Ask
(00:17:44) Anons
(00:18:13) Curtis Yarvin Goes to Hollywood
(00:22:22) Demos or Oligos
(00:35:00) Dissidence
(00:43:25) Academic motion
(00:49:07) Proximal origins slack chat
(00:54:31) Parsing history
(00:57:38) Black legend
(01:02:55) Political resistance
(01:12:11) Science vs Tech
(01:14:14) Monarch selection
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