
Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews
This podcast is for individual interviews on the Scott Horton Show. See the Q & A show feed to hear Scott answer listener questions and for the full show archives.Scott Horton is the author of Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan, and is the host of the Scott Horton Show podcast. He has conducted over 5,500 interviews with authors, journalists, activists, and whistleblowers on the most important foreign policy issues since 2003.
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Aug 12, 2022 • 40min
8/8/22 Bonnie Kristian on America’s Ongoing War in Somalia
Scott interviews Bonnie Kristian about her new book and an article she wrote recently on America’s war in Somalia. After the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan last summer, Somalia is now America’s longest war. Though Trump temporarily shifted it to an air war while in office, Biden has ordered the troops back in. Scott and Kristian discuss the state of the conflict and examine the war’s place in the Global War on Terror. Discussed on the show:
Untrustworthy by Bonnie Kristian
“I Didn’t Want It to Be True, but the Medium Really Is the Message” (New York Times)
Technopoly by Niel Postman
“Biden Sends U.S. Troops Back to Somalia” (The American Conservative)
“Afghanistan Did Not Have to Turn Out This Way” (The Atlantic)
“The Taliban’s Dangerous Collision Course With the West” (NYT Magazine)
“Somalia appoints al Shabaab co-founder as religion minister” (Reuters)
Veep (IMDb)
“Yemeni Civil War Unleashes a Plague of Locusts” (Antiwar.com)
Bonnie Kristian is a fellow at Defense Priorities, and a regular contributor at The American Conservative. Her writing has appeared at TIME, CNN, Politico, The American Conservative, and many others. Follow her at her website or on Twitter @bonniekristian.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 12, 2022 • 41min
8/5/22 Dan McKnight on Defend the Guard’s Momentum and the Death of Zawahiri
Dan McKnight of Bring Our Troops Home is back to give an update on the movement to pass Defend the Guard Legislation. Defend the Guard aims to prohibit the Federal Government from deploying National Guard troops to foreign combat operations without a formal declaration of war. The movement backing these bills is led by veterans of the Terror Wars who just want lawmakers to respect the oath they all swore to the Constitution. McKnight gives an update on the effort and explains how you can help out. They then discuss the drone strike in Kabul two weeks ago that allegedly killed Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri. If true, McKnight says the last genuine justification for a War on Terror is gone. Discussed on the show:
Defend the Guard
Bring Our Troops Home
Ten Seven Club
Leadership Class
Kill Bin Laden by Dalton Fury (Thomas Greer)
“This Air Force commando called in 688,000 pounds of bombs in one battle” (Task & Purpose)
Pat McGeehan for House of Delegates
Dan McKnight is the founder and Chairman of Idahoans to Bring Our Troops Home. He served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves, three years active duty with the U.S. Army and ten years with the Idaho Army National Guard, including a one-year deployment to Afghanistan in 2006.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 10, 2022 • 47min
8/5/22 Grant F. Smith on Isaiah Kenen and how the Israeli Government Formed AIPAC
Scott talked with author Grant F. Smith about his new podcast detailing the founding of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC. They also discuss how AIPAC has recently been getting more involved in U.S. elections. While some have framed this as an attempt for the ‘politically conservative’ organization to target progressive candidates, Smith argues politics has little to do with it. All that matters to AIPAC is the degree to which any given candidate supports sending money to Israel. Discussed on the show:How Israel Made AIPAC PodcastGrant F. Smith is the author of a number of books including Big Israel: How Israel’s Lobby Moves America, Divert!, and most recently The Israel Lobby Enters State Government: Rise of the Virginia Israel Advisory Board. He is director of the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy in Washington, D.C.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 9, 2022 • 43min
8/5/22 David Pyne Shares the Views That Got Him Blacklisted by the Ukrainian Government
Scott interviews David Pyne about the articles he wrote on the war in Ukraine that landed him on the Ukrainian regime's blacklist. Earlier this year, Pyne wrote a piece that contained a fifteen-point plan to stop the bloodshed and pull all Russian troops out of Ukraine. But because he argued Zelensky should concede on at least some of Putin’s demands, he was criticized as a propagandist on the Kremlin’s payroll and landed on the Ukrainian blacklist. Scott and Pyne go through his proposal and discuss the historical context behind this strange moment of hypocritical idealism and censorship in our foreign policy. Discussed on the show:
“Response to Ukrainian Government Decision to Include me on a List of 28 High-Profile Americans Accused of Promoting Russian Propaganda Narratives” (Substack)
“A Proposed Peace Plan to End the Russo-Ukrainian War” (Substack)
“Amnesty International Says Ukraine’s Fighting Tactics Endanger Civilians” (Antiwar.com)
George W. Bush's Iraq-Ukraine gaffe
David T. Pyne, Esq. is a former U.S. Army combat arms and H.Q. staff officer with an M.A. in National Security Studies from Georgetown University. He currently serves as the host of the Defend America Radio Show on KTALK AM 1640 and as Editor of “The Real War” newsletterThis episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 8, 2022 • 35min
8/5/22 Laurie Calhoun on Zawahri’s Alleged Assassination and the Fanaticism of the Military Industrial Complex
Scott talks with Libertarian Institute Senior Fellow Laurie Calhoun. They begin with a discussion of last week's announcement that a CIA drone strike killed Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahri in Kabul Afghanistan. Calhoun explains why she remains skeptical of the CIA’s claims absent any proof. They then get into the article she published at the Libertarian Institute which examines the fanatical mindset behind war hawks and others who depend on killing for their livelihoods. Discussed on the show:
Site Intelligence Group
“The MIC Cult” (The Libertarian Institute)
“A MAD Heist” (The Libertarian Institute)
Scott’s debate with Bill Kristol
Scott’s debate with Cathy Young
Defend the Guard
Laurie Calhoun is a Senior Fellow at the Libertarian Institute and the author of We Kill Because We Can: From Soldiering to Assassination in the Drone Age, War and Delusion: A Critical Examination, You Can Leave, and Philosophy Unmasked: A Skeptic’s Critique.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 7, 2022 • 31min
8/5/22 Connor Freeman on JCPOA Negotiations and Opposing War with China
This week on Antiwar Radio, Scott interviewed Libertarian Institute Assistant Editor Connor Freeman. Freeman goes over the messy situation Iranian officials face as JCPOA negotiations pick back up while the Middle East Cold War continues to heat up. He also touches on an article he published at the Institute arguing we need more principled opposition to war with China. Discussed on the show:
“Biden and Allies Continue to Put Iran in the Crosshairs” (Libertarian Institute)
KPFK.org
“The Next Giuliani Moment: No War With China” (Libertarian Institute)
Connor Freeman is the Assistant Editor of the Libertarian Institute, primarily covering foreign policy. He is a co-host on Conflicts of Interest. His writing has been featured in media outlets such as Antiwar.com and Counterpunch, as well as the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. You can follow him on Twitter @FreemansMind96This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 31, 2022 • 33min
7/28/22 Douglas Macgregor on NATO’s Doomed Strategy in Ukraine
This week on Antiwar Radio, Scott was joined by retired Col. Douglas Macgregor to discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine. Macgregor has been deeply critical of NATO’s reaction to the Russian invasion, which he calls impulsive. He says the leverage Russia holds over Europe’s energy supply is itself enough of a reason to avoid picking a fight. He predicts a painful winter for Europeans, especially Germans, as energy shortages threaten their access to heat. He then gets into some mistakes the Russians made such as the choice not to cut off gas supplies before turning to military action and, once the invasion had begun, not committing to hold captured territory permanently. While Scott and Macgregor agree that NATO’s intent is to fight until the last Ukrainian, Macgregor predicts that weak western economies will cause NATO’s support to dry up before Russian forces run out of steam. Discussed on the show:“Worshipping Dead Horses” (The American Conservative)Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 30, 2022 • 1h 14min
7/25/22 Matt Taibbi on the Depravity of the Media and Liberal Interventionists
Scott interviews journalist Matt Taibbi about two articles he published at TK News. The first examines the role the New York Times plays in defining the boundaries of acceptable discourse in our country. Taibbi draws a comparison to the role of newspapers in the Soviet Union and points to multiple examples from the last few years of U.S. outlets doing the same thing. They then focus in on foreign policy, where they reflect on how the military and interventionists in both media and government went through a transformation after the Bush Presidency. By rebranding themselves as humanitarian interventionists and framing Obama as their leader, they were able to dismantle the antiwar left of the Bush years. Now we find ourselves in a moment where many on the right are taking a more anti-interventionist stance. Scott and Taibbi mull over whether this will, or can, change American foreign policy going forward. Discussed on the show:
“The New Kremlinology: Reading the New York Times” (TK News)
Scott’s Debate with Cathy Young
“Putin Misunderstands History. So, Unfortunately, Does the U.S.” (Bloomberg)
“The Great American Military Rebrand” (TK News)
The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama
Bring Our Troops Home
Defend the Guard
Matt Taibbi is a journalist, author and political commentator. Subscribe to his Substack publication: TK News and follow him on Twitter @mtaibbi.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 29, 2022 • 34min
7/25/22 John Vaughn on Why People Aren’t Joining the Military
Scott spoke with retired U.S. Army Captain John Vaughn about the Military’s recent recruitment troubles. Vaughn gives an insider’s take on why interest in joining up has been dropping and highlights some relevant statistics. He reflects on his own experience enrolling at West Point before deploying to Kuwait, Afghanistan and Poland. Discussed on the show:
“Evacuation Eyewitness: What I Saw in Kabul” (Libertarian Institute)
“A Veteran Explains Why People Aren’t Joining the Military” (Libertarian Institute)
“Every branch of the military is struggling to make its 2022 recruiting goals, officials say” (NBC News)
John Vaughn is a retired United States Army Captain. He graduated from West Point in 2013 and commissioned as an Infantry officer before becoming an Information Technology Systems Engineer for the U.S. Army. He has served as a Platoon Leader at Fort Bliss, TX, as a Company Commander at Fort Benning, GA, and as an instructor at the Army’s Officer Candidate School. He has deployed to Kuwait, Afghanistan and Poland and has been published in the Army’s Signal Magazine.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 28, 2022 • 51min
7/25/22 Dave DeCamp on Ukraine, Taiwan, Iran and his New Podcast
Scott interviewed Antiwar.com News Editor Dave DeCamp earlier this week. First, they discussed DeCamp’s new podcast — Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp. The show runs every weekday and highlights the most important foreign policy headlines of the day. It’s an indispensable resource for anyone looking to stay up to date on the news without the dishonest spin of the mainstream corporate media. Scott and DeCamp then dig into how the war in Ukraine is progressing. They also touch on the escalating tension between the U.S. and China as Speaker Pelosi plans a visit to Taiwan. Lastly, they look to the Middle East, where the cold war between Israel and Iran continues to heat up.Discussed on the show:
Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp on Apple, Spotify, Odysee, Stitcher, RSS and Youtube
Mark Levin Calls Anthony Sabatini's Foreign Policy 'Most Radical' He's Every Heard
“Strategic Ambiguity Works” (The American Conservative)
Dave DeCamp is the news editor of Antiwar.com and the host of Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp. Follow him on Twitter @decampdaveThis episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices