
Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews
This podcast is for individual interviews on the Scott Horton Show. See the Q & A show feed to hear Scott answer listener questions and for the full show archives.Scott Horton is the author of Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan, and is the host of the Scott Horton Show podcast. He has conducted over 5,500 interviews with authors, journalists, activists, and whistleblowers on the most important foreign policy issues since 2003.
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Jul 28, 2022 • 35min
7/22/22 Jeff Deist on Inflation, the Housing Market and the Death of Savings
Scott is joined by Jeff Deist, the President of the Mises Institute, to discuss the bizarre economic moment we are living through. Deist puts into perspective the historic levels of economic stimulus that the Federal Reserve injected into the economy in 2020. The intervention was unprecedented in both scale and speed, and we’re already feeling the effects. Scott and Deist talk about the state of housing markets and where in the past we should look to better understand where the economy is headed. Discussed on the show:
Episode where Bob Murphy and Jon Schwarz Debate Whether Inflation Is a Good Thing
The Human Action Podcast
Jeff Deist is president of the Mises Institute, where he serves as a writer, public speaker, and advocate for property, markets, and civil society. He previously worked as a longtime advisor and chief of staff to Congressman Ron Paul, for whom he wrote hundreds of articles and speeches. Follow him on Twitter @jeffdeist.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 28, 2022 • 33min
7/22/22 Kyle Anzalone on the Ukraine-Russia Grain Deal and the Evolving State of the War
Kyle Anzalone is back this week on Antiwar Radio to update us on all things Ukraine. Anzalone explains the grain deal both sides reached after Turkey hosted negotiations. If honored, the deal is expected to free up 22 million tons of wheat. Next, Anzalone lays out how the battle lines are evolving after Foreign Minister Lavrov announced Russia has expanded its objectives beyond the Donbas region. There’s also some good news about deals between Russia and the EU which will ease sanctions and open up the railroads into the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. However, the Biden Administration and Congress have been escalating their military support for Ukraine with promises to send more advanced weapons systems into the conflict. Discussed on the show:
“Russia and Ukraine sign breakthrough grain deal brokered by UN and Turkey” (Middle East Eye)
Scott’s Debate with Cathy Young about Ukraine
Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, assistant editor of Antiwar.com and co-host of Conflicts of Interest with Will Porter. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 23, 2022 • 24min
7/22/22 Doug Bandow on Biden’s Saudi Trip and Awful Middle East Policy
Scott talks with Cato Institute Senior Fellow Doug Bandow about an article he wrote recently for The American Conservative. Bandow gives his take on Biden’s trip to Saudi Arabia. He thinks the Saudis were purposefully disrespectful to the U.S. President and that Biden just took it. Bandow explains the ways Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has been changing how Saudi Arabia oppresses its people — rolling back religious tyranny while expanding political tyranny. Finally, Scott and Bandow take a step back and examine the Biden Administration’s approach to the entire Middle East region, which Bandow says is really just a continuation of Trump’s policies. Discussed on the show:
“Joe Biden Grovels to the Saudis” (The American Conservative)
“Biden says he confronted Saudis directly on Khashoggi” (The Washington Post)
Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a regular contributor at Forbes Magazine, the National Interest, Antiwar.com, and elsewhere. He’s on Twitter @Doug_Bandow.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 22, 2022 • 28min
7/21/22 Hassan El-Tayyab on the Yemen Ceasefire, Biden’s Saudi Trip and a Second War Powers Resolution
Hassan El-Tayyab is back with a big update on the effort to end U.S. support for the war in Yemen. There are now War Powers Resolutions in each chamber of Congress, and momentum is building. El-Tayyab points to some concerning developments concerning the fragile ceasefire and Biden’s trip to the Middle East that underscore the importance of getting this done in Congress. Discussed on the show:
Libertarian National Twitter account
FCNL.org
Concerned Veterans for America
Yemen Relief & Reconstruction Foundation
1833stopwar.com
Hassan El-Tayyab is a musician and peace activist, who works as the lead lobbyist on Middle East policy for the Friends Committee on National Legislation.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 17, 2022 • 33min
7/15/22 Patrick MacFarlane on Adrian Zenz and the 'Xinjiang Police Files'
This week on Antiwar Radio, Scott is joined by Patrick MacFarlane to discuss the narrative that China is conducting a genocide against the Uyghurs of Xinjiang, its westernmost region. The narrative has become prominent over the past few years, especially with anti-China hawks. But MacFarlane shows that most of the “evidence” of genocide can be traced back to a German anthropologist named Adrian Zenz. Scott and MacFarlane dig into some of the obvious problems with Zenz’s work and put the U.S. Government’s connection to the Uyghurs in context. Discussed on the show:
“Credibility and the ‘Xinjiang Police Files’” (Libertarian Institute)
“The Red Line and the Rat Line” (London Review of Books)
Patrick MacFarlane is the Justin Raimondo Fellow at the Libertarian Institute where he advocates a noninterventionist foreign policy. He is a Wisconsin attorney in private practice. His work has appeared on antiwar.com and Zerohedge. Follow him on Twitter @liberty_weeklyThis episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 11, 2022 • 33min
7/8/22 Kyle Anzalone on Recent Developments in Ukraine
This week on Antiwar Radio, Kyle Anzalone of the Libertarian Institute and Antiwar.com joins Scott to discuss the status of the war in Ukraine. Anzalone explains how fighting has evolved in the Donbas region of Eastern Ukraine. He then moves down to Kherson in southern Ukraine as well as Snake Island off of the country’s southwest coast. They touch on the absurd amount of weapons and money Western governments have been sending to Ukraine as well as the accuracy of reported body counts. Finally, they talk about the lack of any real prospect for peace, and how the war will likely evolve as it grinds on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 10, 2022 • 1h 14min
7/8/22 John Kiriakou on Vault 7, Robert Grenier and Bin Laden’s Escape at Tora Bora
Scott is joined by CIA officer turned whistleblower turned political commentator John Kiriakou to discuss the trial of Joshua Schulte, the man accused of leaking the CIA’s Vault 7 program to Wikileaks. Schulte denies being involved in the leak. His next trial is fast approaching. Kiriakou explains how the Justice Department also accused Schulte of having child pornography on his computer, although they walked it back when the judge requested they actually press charges. Scott and Kiriakou discuss past cases where the U.S. government weaponized false allegations of sexual crimes against whistleblowers. They then get into a discussion about former CIA officer Robert Grenier who Kiriakou worked with. He talks about their falling out. And any discussion of Robert Grenier is inevitably going to include Bin Laden’s escape into Pakistan at Tora Bora in December of 2001. Scott goes through some of the best books on the topic and Kiriakou gives his account of that critical time period from inside the Agency. Discussed on the show:
“A Whistleblower’s Agony” (Scheer Post)
Kiriakou’s books
@innercitypress on Twitter
Robert Grenier’s post-Jan 6th interview on NPR
88 Days to Kandahar by Robert Grenier
Jawbreaker by Gary Berntsen
Kill Bin Laden by Dalton Fury/Thomas Greer
“This Air Force commando called in 688,000 pounds of bombs in one battle” (Task & Purpose)
Bush at War by Bob Woodward
John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer and author of The Convenient Terrorist: Two Whistleblowers’ Stories of Torture, Terror, Secret Wars, and CIA Lies and Doing Time Like A Spy. He is the host of Loud and Clear on Sputnik Radio. Follow him on Twitter @JohnKiriakou.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 7, 2022 • 1h 23min
6/23/22 Should the U.S. Be Sending Weapons to Ukraine? Scott Horton vs. Cathy Young at the Soho Forum
Should the U.S. give full military and political support to Ukraine in its war with Russia, short of sending troops?That was the subject of a Soho Forum debate held on Thursday, June 23, at the Porcupine Freedom Festival, or PorcFest, in Lancaster, New Hampshire.Cathy Young, a writer at the Bulwark and a contributing editor at Reason, is a Moscow-native who migrated to the U.S. as a teenager, argued that the U.S. government is correct to impose sanctions on Russia and to send military and economic support to Ukraine. Scott Horton, who's the host of Antiwar Radio, argued that U.S. backing of NATO provoked the Russian invasion and that imposing sanctions and sending weapons has brought more death and destruction.He says the only role for the Americans is to call for an immediate ceasefire followed by negotiations.The debate was moderated by Soho Forum Director Gene Epstein. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 5, 2022 • 31min
7/1/22 Alan MacLeod on the Alarming Number of Ex-FBI Agents Working at Twitter
Scott talks with Alan MacLeod about the reporting he’s done on the surprising number of former FBI agents who have joined the content moderation department at Twitter. He runs through some specific examples of people who have spent their careers working for the Bureau before pivoting to join the tech company. He also talks about the research he’s done into Facebook, Google, TikTok and Reddit. Discussed on the show:“The Federal Bureau of Tweets: Twitter is Hiring an Alarming Number of FBI Agents” (Mintpress News)Alan MacLeod is Senior Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent, as well as a number of academic articles. Follow him on Twitter @AlanRMacLeod.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 4, 2022 • 29min
7/1/22 Diego Rivera on Defend the Guard and the Art of Effective Activism
Scott interviews Diego Rivera, a veteran and activist, to talk about Defend the Guard legislation. The bill, which has been introduced in nearly all the State Legislatures, aims to block the deployment of National Guard troops to foreign combat operations unless Congress actually declares war. Rivera details the new initiative Bring Our Troops Home, the group behind Defend the Guard, is rolling out to train people in the art of effective political activism. Scott and Rivera discuss how seemingly powerless groups with no access can effectively bring about political change. Discussed on the show:
Defend the Guard
Bring Our Troops Home
Leadership Class
Ten Seven Club
deigo@bringourtroopshome.net
Diego Rivera is an Iraq War veteran and activist. Follow him on Twitter @Diego4Liberty.This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices