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The Modern People Leader
Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.
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May 22, 2023 • 53min
112 - Inclusive Processes & “Sneaky DEIB”: GoDaddy’s VP of Diversity, Inclusion, & Belonging, Kristy Lilas
Kristy Lilas (Vice President of Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about how to identify the processes at your company that aren’t inclusive or equitable and sneaky ways you can incorporate DEIB into programs that already exist.
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Timestamps:
(3:25) Good news stories
(6:59) Her journey into DIB work
(12:05) Why we should be jealous she gets to work at GoDaddy
(15:30) The biggest blockers to progress in DEIB work today
(17:30) The forming, storming, norming, and performing phases that teams go through
(21:15) Hybrid work and it’s potential to undo some of the progress that we’ve made
(26:03) How to mitigate biases in a hybrid setting
(28:10) How to evaluate all of your processes to improve DEI
(32:55) Creating a heat map of all of your processes and where there are the biggest gaps related to DEI
(36:15) The great pause
(40:15) Sneaky DEIB
(47:15) Rapid fire questions
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May 8, 2023 • 1h 25min
111 - Internal mentorship programs are a cheat code: Charter’s Head of Workplace Strategy & Innovation (Massella Dukuly) & Head of Research, SVP (Emily Goligoski)
Charter’s Massella Dukuly (Head of Workplace Strategy + Innovation) and Emily Goligoski (Head of Research, SVP) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about making the implicit explicit and why internal mentorship programs are a cheat code for organizations.
Timestamps:
(1:50) Good news stories
(6:20) How Charter is helping the HR community
(10:34) Why this work is important to them
(18:04) Biggest shifts in the workplace pre-COVID to today
(24:00) What progress is at risk of going away
(30:00) Backtracking and the impact on DEI
(35:21) Great talent exists all over the world
(40:50) Making the implicit knowledge explicit
(43:10) Why Internal mentorship are a cheat code for companies
(48:22) What makes a formal mentorship program successful
(52:07) The BEST companies are thoughtful about codifying things
(1:00:00) The benefits of two-way mentorship
(1:01:10) How Charter runs their off-sites
(1:09:02) Rapid fire questions
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May 4, 2023 • 1h 6min
110 - 4 CPOs on the future of work & needing more CPOs in the CEO role
This week we had four 3-time guests on for an MPL Group Chat:
Lyndsay Lord, CHRO at DECA Dental Group
Dilshan Ratnayake, Leading HR Executive
Rhiana Barr, Chief People Officer at Snap Finance
Kristen Barbor, Leading HR Executive
We talked about the future of work and why we need more Chief People Officers to transition into the CEO role.
Timestamps:
(1:37) Good news stories
(8:50) Biggest reflections looking back the last couple of years
(15:50) Future or fad: Remote work
(22:34) Future or fad: DEI budgets
(28:50) Future or fad: ChatGPT
(36:09) Future or fad: The focus on mental health and wellbeing
(44:30) What the group is most concerned about for the future
(47:00) Boards need to take the people element seriously
(51:40) What’s getting the group fired up for the rest of the year
(57:00) We need more Chief People Officers transitioning to CEO
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May 1, 2023 • 1h 8min
109 - VC needs more people from HR: Kat Steinmetz, Principal at Initialized Capital
Kat Steinmetz (Principal, Initialized Capital) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about the HR skills that are useful as a VC and why more people from HR should make the jump into VC.
Timestamps:
(1:12) Good news stories
(6:22) At one point Kat was a touring musician, makeup artist, and HR leader all at the same time
(16:00) Being a “multi-potentialite”
(21:20) Why we should be jealous she gets to work at Initialized Capital
(24:40) Figuring out she was a good fit for VC
(31:09) The HR skills that have been useful as a VC
(33:30) Why more people from HR should go into VC
(39:00) The biggest people challenges at her portfolio companies
(40:50) Getting through the frozen budget of HR
(45:06) The hiring frenzy that led to recent layoffs
(49:07) Evaluating deals from a people lens
(53:30) The leadership team’s culture is the company’s culture
(58:28) Rapid fire questions
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Apr 25, 2023 • 51min
108 - This Chief People Officer talks to her CEO daily (Kate Parente, Pegasystems)
Kate Parente (Chief People Officer, Pega) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about making the office a magnet, building a strong relationship with your CEO, and the power of storytelling as a people leader.
Timestamps:
(1:22) Good news stories
(13:00) This is her first Chief People Officer role
(17:00) Why we should be jealous she gets to work at Pega
(20:00) The paradigm shift that’s happening at work
(22:00) There’s no one size fits all approach to work
(25:00) How the people team is structured at Pega
(28:28) Making the office a magnet, not a mandate
(31:00) Piloting “Connection Weeks” at Pega
(32:46) What makes the Pega people team unique
(37:18) The CEO <> CHRO relationship
(40:46) Figuring out what people are thinking and feeling at this moment
(42:00) Rapid fire questions
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Apr 19, 2023 • 56min
107 - Angela Crossman (Chief People Officer, Brex) on revamping your employee listening function & getting creative with offsites
Angela Crossman (Chief People Officer, Brex) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about her journey into HR (non profit admin, massage therapist, & consultant), bringing your internal & external listening data together, and getting creative with offsites.
Timestamps:
(2:00) Good news stories
(5:03) Her career journey
(13:17) Why we should be jealous that she gets to work at Brex
(16:30) Their fully-flexible work model
(20:00) The HR Team’s structure at Brex
(23:16) Dog fooding at Brex
(25:30) Overcoming myths around what’s “not working” with their globally distributed team
(30:12) The skills she gained from her time as a Chief of Staff for multiple executives
(33:20) Bringing all of the internal and external listening data together
(36:40) The employee listening tech stack
(39:35) Advice to HR leaders on improving their people analytics
(43:00) Why off-sites are core to Brex & how they’ve gotten creative with different formats
(48:06) How she defines a Modern People Leader
(49:20) The career advice she’d give her 22-year-old self
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Apr 10, 2023 • 1h 1min
106 - Caitlin Kamm (Head of People Growth, Envoy) on why it's impossible for HR to make everybody happy
Caitlin Kamm (Head of People Growth, Envoy) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about why it’s impossible for people teams to make everybody happy, Envoy’s focus on inclusion, and why organizations needs to focus on their EVP.
Timestamps:
(2:08) Good news stories
(7:20) Going from law to HR
(13:30) What Envoy does
(15:05) Why we should be jealous she gets to work at Envoy
(23:10) It’s impossible for HR teams to make everybody happy
(28:22) Envoy’s EVP is around community and collaboration
(30:24) Bringing levity back to the workplace
(31:00) Figuring out how to leverage both in-person learning experiences and creative practices
(33:00) What they’re doing on the survey side of things
(36:00) Focusing on inclusion
(40:40) Tracking participation of ERGs
(42:16) What Hybrid means for Envoy
(51:37) The value of eNPS
(54:30) Rapid fire questions
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Apr 7, 2023 • 22min
MPL Live @ Transform - Kelly Minella (Head of Recruiting, Calendly) on the hiring partner experience
Kelly Minella (Head of Recruiting, Calendly) joined us on The Modern People Leader live from Transform.
Timestamps:
(0:30) What’s giving her energy at Transform
(1:07) Inclusive hiring practices
(2:17) Exciting recruiting tech she discovered at Transform
(3:07) Weathering the storm in Talent Acquisition
(5:45) Biggest lessons learned in the last year or two
(8:50) Future or fad TA edition
(13:10) You need to be intentional and creative
(15:36) How Calendly is using Textio (job description bias tool)
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Apr 7, 2023 • 16min
MPL Live @ Transform - Angela Cheng-Cimini (SVP, Talent & CHRO, Harvard Business Publishing) on pay transparency
Angela Cheng-Cimini (CHRO, Harvard Business Publishing) joined us on The Modern People Leader live from Transform.
Timestamps:
(0:23) What’s giving her energy at Transform
(2:00) The one thing she wanted people to take away from her session at Transform
(4:20) People want hyper-personalization in their employee experience
(5:40) Why pay transparency is so near and dear to her
(7:03) Understanding the implication of AI
(8:46) What’s here to stay
(10:19) The traits of a Modern People Leader
(12:11) Middle managers are getting crunched
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Apr 7, 2023 • 26min
MPL Live @ Transform - Ian White (Founder & CEO, ChartHop) on compensation planning
Ian White, Founder and CEO of ChartHop, shares his insightful take on compensation planning and people data management. He discusses how the pandemic accelerated HR trends, highlighting the need for a unified view of people in organizations. Ian emphasizes that data is meaningless without context and delves into the next big challenges in leveraging HR data. He also reflects on the most compelling ideas from the Transform event, revealing his passion for building innovative solutions that support people's needs in the workplace.