

boy meets therapy
Dustin Oliver
Hosted by Dustin Oliver, MA, boy meets therapy blends clinical research with real conversations about vulnerability, relationships, friendship, identity, and culture in the LGBTQ+ community. Episodes feature solo insights and in-depth interviews with licensed professionals who share both their expertise and their humanity. Perfect for queer listeners, psychology students, and allies seeking affirming, research-informed discussions about therapy and life.
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Oct 6, 2025 • 46min
Kink: Notes From Clinical and Personal Experiences
In this episode, host Dustin sits down with UK therapist John Gillespie to explore the deep intersection between kink, sexuality, and mental health. Together they unpack how shame, desire, and identity shape our sexual experiences and what it means to find acceptance through therapy. John shares insights from both his clinical practice and personal experiences within kink communities, offering a rare and honest look at emotional intimacy, vulnerability, and liberation through understanding one’s desires.
Listeners will learn how therapists can create affirming spaces for clients exploring kink, why shame and secrecy often intertwine with sexual identity, and how healing begins when we integrate these parts of ourselves.
Connect with John Gillespie:
Website: Link Here
John's Book (Amazon): Link Here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Sep 29, 2025 • 54min
Queer Search for Meaning: Dating, Identity, and Defining Purpose
In this episode, host Dustin Oliver sits down with therapist Tyler Mafi to explore the queer search for meaning through the lens of existentialism. They unpack how identity, dating, and authenticity are shaped by societal expectations and how questioning those norms can open the door to deeper purpose and meaning-making. The conversation highlights why existentialism matters in everyday life, how queer identity and authenticity intersect, the pressures of dating and relationships, and what therapy can offer in navigating meaning and purpose.
Whether you are curious about existential philosophy, reflecting on your love life, or searching for more authenticity, this episode offers both practical takeaways and profound reflection. I would ask yourself, "What do I want things to mean?"
Connect with Tyler Mafi:
Tyler's Website: Link Here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Sep 22, 2025 • 54min
Gay Men and the Ideal Body: Rejection, Fat Phobia, and Body Image
In this episode, host Dustin sits down with Sam Fogarty, LMHC, to explore the pressures gay men face when it comes to body image and the pursuit of the “ideal body.” Together, they unpack how rejection, fat phobia, and societal standards fuel shame and disordered eating within the LGBTQ+ community. Sam shares insights from his research on muscularity-oriented eating disorders and why intuitive eating can help create a healthier relationship with food and self-perception.
Dustin and Sam emphasize the importance of self-compassion, breaking cycles of comparison, and building a more affirming perspective around body image.
Whether you’ve struggled with body dissatisfaction, questioned how rejection impacts your self-worth, or want to better understand the unique challenges queer men face, this episode offers research-based insights and practical discussion.
Connect with Sam Fogarty, LMHC
Therapy Practice: Link Here
PsychologyToday: Link Here
Sam's Research: Link Here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Episode Guide & Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Connection
04:01 Body Image in the Gay Community
06:07 Research on Body Ideals
07:52 Understanding Eating Disorders
11:09 Muscularity-Oriented Disordered Eating
15:03 Emotional Needs and Eating Disorders
17:55 Personal Experiences with Body Image
21:17 Fat Phobia and Its Impact
23:48 Reactions to Weight Loss and Acceptance
27:55 Internalized Fat Phobia
31:03 Challenging Body Image Norms
33:23 Exploring Values and Self-Perception
36:32 The Impact of Rejection on Queer Identity
39:29 Intuitive Eating and Movement
40:34 Attraction and Body Image in Queer Relationships
48:26 Healthy Relationships with Body and Self
48:55 Final Thoughts and Memorable Quotes
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Sep 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
Queering Mental Health: Microaggressions, Diagnosis, and Culture with Dr. A. Jordan Wright
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. A. Jordan Wright, Director of the combined Counseling and Clinical Psychology PhD program at NYU and a leading voice in psychological testing and training future clinicians. Together, we explore how microaggressions, evolving diagnoses, and cultural competence shape queer mental health care today.
Listeners will learn how subtle microaggressions affect therapy, why diagnoses like ADHD and autism are both social constructs and powerful tools, and how cultural competence helps clinicians provide truly inclusive treatment. Dr. Wright also shares his perspective on training the next generation of therapists, making assessments more inclusive for queer clients, and using privilege to advocate for marginalized communities.
This conversation offers both practical takeaways and big-picture insight into what it means to “queer” mental health and build therapy that sees the whole person.
The Wright-Constantine Structured Cultural Interview: Link (full copy and paste link at bottom)
Tell me on Instagram or in the comments what you thought of the assessment
Dr. Wright's Faculty Profile (and publications):
Link here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver
*Full copy and past like for the WCSCI: https://steinhardt.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/2023-08/WCSCI%20FINAL-2023.pdf

Sep 8, 2025 • 33min
Gay Men and Substance Use: A Conversation
This episode explores how substance use shows up in the lives of gay and queer men through history, culture, and community.
I explore the complex and often misunderstood relationship between gay men and substance use. Too often framed with stigma or silence, this topic deserves a conversation rooted in history, culture, and compassion.
I’ll take you through the role bars played as safe havens, the impact of the AIDS crisis, and the emergence of chemsex and methamphetamine in gay culture. We’ll also look at how pleasure, coping, stigma, and intergenerational differences shape substance use today.
This episode isn’t about prescribing one solution, whether sobriety, harm reduction, or responsible recreational use. Instead, it’s about opening up dialogue, reducing shame, and imagining new ways to support dignity, choice, and connection in our community.
Resources:
SAMHSA Hotline (24/7, US): 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
Crisis Line (US): Call or text 988
boymeetstherapy resources: click here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Sep 1, 2025 • 59min
Queer Men and Dating: Self-Sabotage, Monogamy, and Building Authentic Relationships
In this episode of boy meets therapy, host Dustin Oliver sits down with dating coach Danny to explore the unique challenges queer men face in dating. From breaking cycles of self-sabotage to navigating monogamy vs. non-monogamy, they dive into how generational trauma and cultural history shape modern relationships.
Connect with Danny
Instagram: @thecoachdannym
TikTok: @coachdannymorales
Website: www.thecoachdanny.com
Podcast: THE DEEP PENETRATION Podcast
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Episode Guide & Chapters
0:00 - 2:00 Introduction
2:01 - 5:30 Meet Danny: The Dating Coach
5:31 - 15:00 Understanding Self-Sabotage
15:01 - 25:00 Monogamy vs. Non-Monogamy
25:01 - 35:00 Generational Impact on Dating
35:01 - 45:00 Building Confidence and Authenticity
45:01 - 50:00 Rapid Fire Questions with Danny
50:01 - End Closing Thoughts and Takeaways
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Aug 25, 2025 • 41min
Gay Men, the Vulnerability Deficit, and How We Reconnect
Why is it so hard for gay men to open up emotionally, especially with each other?
In this solo episode, Dustin explores the vulnerability deficit that many gay men experience and how emotional suppression shows up in friendships, dating, and queer community life. Blending clinical research with real-life examples, this episode unpacks the psychological roots of emotional avoidance, the influence of masculinity and shame, and how curated social connection can mask deep disconnection.
You'll hear about the common ways gay men protect themselves from being seen, why these patterns make sense in a world shaped by rejection, and how we can start to build relationships rooted in emotional honesty. Whether you have struggled to express your needs, avoided conflict, or felt unseen in your closest relationships, this conversation offers insight, compassion, and a path forward.
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Episode Guide & Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:06 Shifting Focus to Queer Men's Issues
05:58 Exploring Vulnerability in Gay Men
09:07 Understanding Vulnerability and Safety
10:59 The Impact of Minority Stress on Emotional Expression
11:24 Understanding Emotional Armor in Gay Men
17:17 The Cost of Avoiding Vulnerability
23:30 Toxic Masculinity and Its Impact
29:26 Micro Vulnerability: A Path to Connection
35:33 The Importance of Being Seen and Vulnerable
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

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Aug 4, 2025 • 38min
Why Gay Men Struggle to Make Friends and How to Fix It
Discover why many gay men struggle to form close friendships and the impact of loneliness on their well-being. Learn about the importance of emotional safety and how vulnerability fosters genuine connections. Dismissing common misconceptions about attraction, the discussion highlights tools to overcome defensiveness and initiate social interactions. Explore creative ways to build community through consistent low-pressure rituals and queer-led activities, emphasizing authentic relationships that go beyond dating and hookup culture.

Jul 28, 2025 • 55min
Overcoming Conversion Therapy: Dr. Luke Wilson on Shame, Faith, and Finding Self-Acceptance
In this episode of boy meets therapy, Dr. Luke Wilson shares his firsthand experience with conversion therapy, from enrolling at Liberty University to facing the emotional and psychological toll of trying to change his identity. Dr. Wilson opens up about the deep shame, religious pressure, and inner conflict he experienced, and how he ultimately found healing and self-acceptance. This honest conversation explores the dangers of conversion practices, the intersection of faith and sexuality, and the resilience it takes to reclaim your truth. Whether you are a survivor, an ally, or seeking to understand, this episode offers insight, compassion, and hope.
Dr. Wilson's book of conversion therapy survivors' stories Shame-Sex Attraction is available for pre-order now.
Connect with Luke Wilson, PhD:
Instagram: @lukeslamdunkwilson
Academic Papers: utschools.academia.edu/LucasWilson
Pre-order Shame-Sex Attraction (USA): link here
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Episode Guide & Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Academic Credentials
03:06 Exploring Identity and Sexuality
06:00 Liberty University: A Conservative Christian Institution
08:47 The Journey into Evangelicalism
12:07 Conversion Therapy: Understanding the Context
14:52 Personal Experiences with Conversion Therapy
17:41 Navigating Queerness in a Conservative Environment
26:06 The Journey into Conversion Therapy
32:26 The Impact of Conversion Therapy on Identity
43:48 Shame and Its Role in Conversion Therapy
48:37 Reflections on Personal Growth and Projection
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver

Jul 21, 2025 • 39min
Healing Religious Trauma: Queer Identity, Deconstruction, and Inner Child Work with Liz Rhea
In this episode of boy meets therapy, host Dustin Oliver is joined by therapist Liz Rhea for an honest and deeply moving conversation about religious trauma and queer identity. Together, they unpack how adverse religious experiences can shape self-worth, relationships, and mental health, particularly for LGBTQ+ individuals. Liz shares her clinical insights on the effects of sermons and church environments, while exploring the power of deconstruction, inner child work, and grief processing in healing. This episode offers both personal and therapeutic perspectives on what it means to navigate religious trauma and find safety, self-acceptance, and liberation in therapy.
Whether you're deconstructing your faith, supporting a loved one, or working through your own trauma, this conversation is a must-listen.
Connect with Liz Rhea:
Instagram: @lizrheatherapy
Website: www.lizrheatherapy.com
Connect with boy meets therapy:
Instagram: @boymeetstherapy
TikTok: @boymeetstherapy
Website with Free Resources: boymeetstherapy.com
Episode Guide & Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:09 Understanding Religious Trauma
06:13 The Impact of Environment on Trauma
09:07 Experiences of Religious Trauma
12:08 Personal Stories and Reflections
15:10 Navigating Identity and Faith
17:46 Exploring Queer Identity and Community
19:12 The Process of Deconstruction
23:07 Reclaiming Identity and Rituals
24:47 The Impact of Religious Trauma
28:04 Understanding Sin and Identity
31:39 Creating Safe Spaces in Therapy
36:02 Inner Child Work for Queer Individuals
37:12 The Framework of Grief in Healing
Created and Produced by Dustin Oliver