
Mile High FI Podcast
Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Carl Jensen and Doug Cunnington talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
Latest episodes

Mar 19, 2024 • 54min
Mr. Money Mustache & Car Free Living at Culdesac | MHFI 207
Doug and Carl visit Culdesac, a unique car-free rental apartment community in Tempe, AZ that redefines the typical American neighborhood by focusing on sustainability, communal living spaces, and alternative transportation options. The guys are joined by members of the FI community (including Pete Adeney (Mr. Money Mustache), Paula Pant, Brad Barrett, and Chad Carson) to discuss Culdesac with co-founder and CEO Ryan Johnson. The group explores Culdesac’s aims, design, how it represents a potential model for future urban planning, and concludes with a discussion on the importance & challenges of creating walkable, car-free communities. Pete also shares his personal experience living in this community to include the impact of car-free living on personal finance, happiness, and building community.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Not planning to move to Tempe, but still looking for community? If so, head over to Buy Me A Coffee to hang out with us.
Links
Culdesac
Connect with Culdesac:
Twitter/X
Instagram
Facebook
LinkedIn
TikTok
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Chad Carson
Chad Carson, “The Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor”
Kindle
Paperback
Audiobook
Brad Barrett/ChooseFI
Paula Pant/Afford Anything
JD Roth/foldedspace
“The Strong Towns” Podcast
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
4:18 Welcome to Culdesac
8:48 Car ownership and transportation alternatives
13:14 Demand for walkable neighborhoods
20:38 Influences & future plans for Culdesac
25:54 Defining a walkable neighborhood
32:34 Success of Culdesac & future projects
37:36 Pete’s personal experience
43:50 Community and iteration & learning
48:56 Challenges & strategies for building a new community

Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 6min
Fitness & Health Update | MHFI 206
In a follow-up to MHFI Episode 187 (Fitness Madness), Doug and Carl provide an update on how they’re progressing with their original fitness goals, discuss challenges they’ve faced along the way, provide dieting & workout tips, and discuss future plans. Carl speaks candidly about Attachment Disorder and the importance of mental health. Also, don’t miss out on new sponsor oFartsic by pVisor.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
New “Sponsor” oFartsic: http://milehighfi.com/ofartsic
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Do you want lots of good stuff from Carl or really want that pickled asparagus? If so, come over and support us at Buy Me A Coffee.
Links
“Fitness Madness”, MHFI Episode 187
Tim Ferriss
“Mind Pump” podcast
Chris “The Indiana Jones of FI” on MHFI Episode 020
Alan Donegan
Diania Merriam & the Hoffman Process on MHFI Episode 199
Hoffman Process
“Dragon” Justin David Carl on MHFI Episode 204
EconoMe Conference
Brad Barrett/ChooseFI
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
3:56 Recapping fitness goals & progress report
11:23 Reverse dieting
16:20 Fitness challenges
21:31 Protein tips
28:08 Importance of mental health
37:59 Future fitness goals
43:05 Weight loss vs. strength training
47:40 Workout injuries
54:16 Planning future check-ins
1:02:01 Soundcheck – Bar food

Mar 5, 2024 • 1h 1min
The Secret Cost of Over-Optimization & Random Show | MHFI 205
Doug and Carl catch up on a potpourri of topics including recent purchases, frugal hacks, investments, optimization, skepticism, and recent books & TV shows each have been consuming. They discuss over-optimizing & reevaluating perceptions in the areas of health & fitness and try to provide a balance by incorporating de-optimization. Carl also introduces a new investment strategy called the “reverse index fund” or “Hot Carl”.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Are you looking for more ingenious frugal hacks such as the Culver’s coupon scam? If so, head over to Buy Me A Coffee to find out more.
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
EconoMe Conference
The Peter Attia Drive Podcast
Huberman Lab
Huberman Lab supplements
Tim Ferriss podcast, “Peter Attia, M.D. — Fasting, Metformin, Athletic Performance, and More (#398)”
Goal Guys, “I Tried the Anti-Aging Diet for 90 Days”
Tim Ferriss 4-hour books
“The 4-Hour Workweek”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
“The 4-Hour Body”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
“The 4-Hour Chef”
Hardcover
Spiral-Bound
CampFI
JT on MHFI episode 110
Oliver Burkeman, “Four Thousand Weeks”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Michael Easter, “The Comfort Crisis”
Kindle
Hardcover
Audiobook
Derek Sivers
Tim Ferriss Podcast, “Rolf Potts – The Vagabond’s Way”
Ramit Sethi
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:33 Recent purchases
5:48 The Culver’s scam
11:55 Poke
16:59 Hot Carl
22:04 Re-evaluating health & fitness optimization
29:58 Changing views & skepticism
38:58 Recent books
46:59 Recent TV shows
57:03 Soundcheck – River of water

Feb 27, 2024 • 1h 15min
From Deep in Debt to Fit Rich Life | MHFI 204
Doug and Carl chat with Justin David Carl, a fitness, money, and life coach also known as Dragon. Justin shares his journey from being heavily in debt and out of shape to becoming financially independent and physically fit. He discusses the dramatic career changes he made, his discovery of the financial independence movement, and how coaching & accountability played a crucial role in his success. Additionally, Justin explains his coaching philosophy, ‘Fit Rich Life’, and the importance of setting clear goals, tracking progress, and surrounding oneself with people who share similar aspirations.
Do you think our chosen spirit animals need a little work (flamingo & border collie)? If so, come help us find new ones at Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
Contact Justin:
Instagram
Threads
Twitter/X
LinkedIn
Fit Rich Life:
Website & podcast
Newsletter
Coaching
Free savings tracker
Free 4-day workout
Tim Ferriss podcast, “Mr. Money Mustache — Living Beautifully on $25-27K Per Year (#221)”
Mr. Money Mustache, “The Shockingly Simple Math Behind Early Retirement”
Tim Ferriss, “The 4-Hour Workweek”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Tony Robbins “Awaken the Giant Within”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Withings Scales
JL Collins, “The Simple Path to Wealth”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
JL Collins, “Pathfinders”
Kindle
Hardcover
Audiobook
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:49 Finding financial independence
7:51 Path to becoming a millionaire
15:13 Overcoming addiction & rebooting life
22:46 Kind of fit, kind of fat
29:46 Following a fitness program & the importance of sleep
38:16 Impact of coaching on personal growth
46:22 Advice for making major life changes
52:25 Carl’s fitness questions
57:15 Doug’s fitness questions
1:04:29 Fit Rich Life tools
1:11:06 Soundcheck – Cold plunges

Feb 20, 2024 • 45min
When Did You Feel Wealthy? Or Rich? | MHFI 203
Doug and Carl delve into the differences between being “rich” and being “wealthy”, discussing their own journeys to financial independence and the pivotal moments when they each felt rich and then wealthy. They reflect on pieces of financial advice, how to feel wealthy, reclaiming an abundance mindset from scarcity, and the importance of evaluating personal happiness. Both also share anecdotes about their life experiences, underscoring the inherent value in simplicity and their changing perceptions on spending as their net worth increased.
Are you feeling wealthy, feeling rich, or craving simplicity? If so, then simply come on over and support us at Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
Morgan Housel podcast
Books by Morgan Housel
“The Psychology of Money”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
“Same as Ever”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
EconoMe Conference
Empower (formerly Personal Capital)
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
JL Collins Blog
Diania Merriam on MHFI Episode 199
CampFI
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:07 Rich vs wealthy defined
6:46 Illusion of wealth
12:33 Consumerism – experiences & experiments
20:32 Feeling rich
25:29 Feeling wealthy
30:49 Becoming comfortable with spending & feeling wealthy
35:17 The power of simplicity
40:03 Soundcheck – Freezing water

Feb 13, 2024 • 1h 9min
I Hit Barista FI, But Now I Like My Job - Kim Ehardt | MHFI 202
Doug and Carl chat with Kim Ehardt, a firefighter from Austin, Texas, who unknowingly achieved Barista FI through careful savings and an unconventional career path. Despite her financial status and ability to leave her current profession, Kim articulates a desire to shift focus from financial security alone to personal fulfillment, purpose, and happiness. Kim’s future plans include life coaching to help others achieve their goals and potentially even starting her own podcast.
Do you have a desire to help others as well? If so, come on over and support us at Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
Kim’s website
Afford Anything Podcast, “#139: How I Save Half of My Income as a Firefighter, While Living in an Expensive City — with Kim E.”
EconoMe Conference
Matthew Walker, “Why We Sleep”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Joe Dominguez, “Transforming Your Relationship With Money”
Paperback
Audiobook
Audio CD
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
6:52 BaristaFI & finding FIRE
11:14 Financial peace
16:58 Firefighting & the pursuit of FI
26:16 The drive to succeed
34:09 Defining success
42:25 Challenges to FIRE ideology
49:07 Finding purpose through coaching
54:23 Impact of coaching & future plans
1:04:02 Soundcheck – Podcast motivations

Feb 6, 2024 • 58min
Pathfinders - JL Collins | MHFI 201
Doug and Carl chat with JL Collins about the evolution of the FIRE movement, lifestyle inflation, “enough”, & envy as well as how diverse the FI community is (not exclusive to any particular income level or lifestyle). JL introduces his recent book, “Pathfinders”, which collects stories that demystify the process of achieving financial independence and highlights the different paths that people have taken, echoing the themes of intentional living and spending.
Have you already found your “enough”? If so, then you’re welcome to share anything above & beyond with us over at Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
(*Some affiliate links so we might earn a commission if you buy something)
JL Collins Blog
JL Collins Stock Series
Books by JL Collins:
“Pathfinders”
Kindle
Hardcover
Audiobook
“The Simple Path to Wealth”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
“How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
John Maynard Keynes, “The 15-Hour Week”
Morgan Housel, “Same as Ever”
Kindle
Hardcover
Paperback
Audiobook
Early Retirement Extreme
Mr. Money Mustache
FI Chautauqua
EconoMe Conference
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl’s Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
4:15 Life-style inflation & enough
12:42 Envy
16:52 Overcoming envy
26:10 Chautauqua & diversity in the FI community
31:04 Evolution of financial blogging
36:08 Introduction to Pathfinders
44:38 Writing books vs. blog posts
50:41 The great pizza debate
56:08 Soundcheck – Life in Florida

Jan 30, 2024 • 33min
What We Learned From 200 Episodes | MHFI 200
Doug and Carl celebrate the 200th episode of the Mile High FI podcast, reminiscing about the past while discussing future plans. Topics include: what they've learned, what they enjoy about podcasting, the many challenges they've faced, and goals & plans for 2024 and the next 100 episodes. Carl also discusses his new podcast with Mindy.
Come celebrate 200 episodes with us over at Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
“Mindy On Money” podcast
Connect with Mindy Jensen:
Email
BiggerPockets
Twitter/X
EconoMe Conference
Carl’s YouTube channel
James Clear
Derek Sivers
Mark Manson
Morgan Housel
Morgan Housel on the Tim Ferriss podcast:
“Morgan Housel — The Psychology of Money, Picking the Right Game, and the $6 Million Janitor (#576)”
“Morgan Housel — Contrarian Money and Writing Advice, Three Simple Goals to Guide Your Life, Journaling Prompts, Choosing the Right Game to Play, Must-Read Books, and More (#702)”
Pete Adeney/Mr. Money Mustache
Descript (AI-Powered Video Editor)
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
3:18 Mindy On Money
5:58 What we’ve learned
13:25 What we like about podcasting
16:32 Future guest wishlist
23:03 What’s coming up for the podcast
28:43 Interview skills

Jan 23, 2024 • 1h
Scarcity vs Abundance Mindset & FIRE with Diania Merriam | MHFI 199
Doug and Carl chat with Diania Merriam about big events in her life in 2024 (a wedding & the EconoMe conference), struggles with scarcity mindset/shifting to an abundance mindset, and how these mindsets have influenced her approach to wedding planning. Along the way she discusses her transformative experience at the Hoffman Process retreat, especially as it relates to spending. Diania also provides a preview of EconoMe, an overview of the conference goals, and highlights the importance of community on the path to financial independence.
Not planning to attend EconoMe? You can still hang out with us virtually by heading over to Buy Me A Coffee.
Save 50% site-wide on your new mattress, pillow, and bedding over at GhostBed (coupon code: MILEHIGHFI)
Doug & Carl will be attending the EconoMe Conference in Cincinnati, OH on March 15-17, 2024. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code MILEHIGHFI at checkout to save 10%. https://economeconference.com/
Links
EconoMe Conference
EconoMe YouTube Channel
Optimal Finance Daily Podcast
The Summit of Greatness
Skyline Chili
Cincinnati DJ Natalie Jones
Hoffman Process
Diania at CampFI, “Unlocking the Abundance Mindset | A Paradigm Shift”
Carl & Mindy on Ramit Sethi’s podcast
Mr Money Mustache, “Frugal Man Buys $52,000 Car - Why?”
Mad Fientist on MHFI Episode 176
Diania on Doug.Show Podcast Episode 323
The Hoffman Process discussions on Tim Ferriss podcast with Andrew Huberman & Blake Mycoskie (founder of TOMS Shoes)
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:17 Big 2024 events
6:58 Diania’s engagement story
16:16 Wedding planning & what it represents
24:47 Hoffman retreat & transition to spending money
31:55 Overcoming fear & embracing abundance
38:49 Shifting from scarcity to abundance mindset
47:23 EconoMe 2024
55:34 Soundcheck - The Hoffman Process

Jan 16, 2024 • 46min
Finance Advice to Our Younger Selves | MHFI 198
Doug and Carl reflect on their paths to financial independence and discuss the advice they would have given their younger selves. Topics include college education/career paths, early savings, retirement account contributions, index fund investing, flexibility across different investments, strong work ethic, resilience, and of course... asparagus.
Do you wish that your younger self found this podcast earlier in life? Well, you can't go back to the past, but there's still time to support us over at Buy Me A Coffee.
Links
Elon Musk University
Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero”
Morgan Housel, “Psychology of Money”
Thomas J. Stanley, “The Millionaire Next Door”
Sean Mullaney on MHFI Episode 114
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:17 Education & alternate career paths
6:35 Carl’s first post-college job
10:29 Doug’s early career jobs
15:51 Early investing experiences
20:19 Rich vs. wealthy
25:25 Investment strategies & lessons
33:42 Importance of work ethic
38:07 Final thoughts & advice
42:05 Soundcheck - Hangover cure
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