Mile High FI Podcast

Doug and Carl talk to Amy Minkley, founder of FI Freedom Retreats and all around stellar human. Discovering FIRE How a chaotic childhood shaped Amy’s money views Studying History at university Moving to Asia to teach ESL Overworking to feel worthy Job induced depression The incredible benefits of mini-retirements Two More Year Syndrome Traveling with purpose FartFIRE Do you think that Mile High FI is a spiffy listen? Don’t lie, we know you do. Why else would you be reading this? Well maybe you’re here to leave a nasty comment. Don’t do it. Be the better person! Anyway, since you think we’re spiffy, please consider supporting us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Links FI Freedom Retreat Facebook page Facebook event Support Mile High FI: Buy Me A Coffee Amy’s Journey to FI on YouTube Choose FI EconoMe Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. Carl’s blog: 1500 Days -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 1:03 How Amy discovered FIRE 5:00 Growing up 8:58 University 14:38 Living abroad 17:10 Are gap years mini-retirements? 22:29 Finding community 28:25 Amy's first FI retreat 30:51 The One Year syndrome 36:16 Amy's FI Freedom retreat 38:30 Making friends 40:51 The perfect day 43:58 Where you can find Amy 47:19 Soundcheck

Doug and Carl catch up. They chat about the following topics: Carl’s home improvement adventures Doug deletes a show Carl’s travel plans Doug gets into ChatGPT Being alone Links Support Mile High FI: Buy Me A Coffee Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. Carl’s blog: 1500 Days -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 1:33 What's Doug been up to 4:06 Getting creative 6:45 Carl's house updates 12:53 Doug's passion for ChatGPT 21:09 Carl's travel plans 25:50 Doug's home alone (with his dog!) 30:45 Trying to drink less 34:50 Carl's retiring for real 35:53 How you can support us 37:33 Soundcheck

Doug and Carl talk about different flavors of FI, traditional, Coast FI, Slow FI, and FartFIRE. New sponsor! Carl’s Quick Hardening Caulk Traditional FI Slow FI Coast FI FartFIRE Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Do you really love Mile High FI? Buy Us Two Coffees! Do you hate Mile High FI? Carl hates coffee so buy him 10! Links Support Mile High FI: Buy Me A Coffee FIoneers on Mile High FI Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. Carl’s blog: 1500 Days -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 5:23 How you can support us 7:03 Different types of FIRE 8:16 Carl's journey from tech to FI 11:50 Doug's journey to FI 15:00 Quiet quitting is real 17:47 Life before and after FIRE 21:25 What is Slow FI? 23:07 What if Carl had done Slow FI? 28:25 Disadvantages of Slow FI 30:16 What is Coast FI? 32:53 Investing into retirement and post-tax accounts 35:48 Pros and cons of Coast FI 39:49 Fart FIRE 46:38 Happiness

Doug and Dusti are back for Part 2 on cognitive biases and how they shape our financial decisions. How a scarcity mindset can hold you back Desire to be like everyone else Decision paralysis Default bias Holding onto bad investments Are we more motivated when we're close to reaching a goal? Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Do you really love Mile High FI? Buy Us Two Coffees! and we’ll quit! You win either way! Links Connect with Dusti on Instagram Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 2:50 Having a scarcity mindset 8:14 The ''what the hell'' effect 13: 35 Social proof and the desire to be like other people 19:08 The cost of friction and decision paralysis 25:34 Default bias 37:20 Why we hold on to bad investments 45: 18 Getting more motivated at the finish line 55:12 Our favorite desserts

Doug and Carl talk about the bad parts of the FIRE movement. Cheap people Dogmatic approaches How the mainstream media writes about FIRE Lack of nuance (must we discuss the fv^%ing 4% Rule again?) It’s OK to work From the listeners Living off $40,000/year isn’t realistic Credit card hacking isn’t for everyone Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Do you really love Mile High FI? Buy Us Two Coffees! and we’ll quit! You win either way! Links Support Mile High FI: Buy Me A Coffee Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. Carl’s blog: 1500 Days -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 4:30 Mr. Mustache HQ - What's new? 7:50 Doug's health updates 10:38 How you can support us 14:25 Carl's number one issue with FIRE 22:31 Applying a dogmatic approach to FI 28:00 Is having a job necessarily bad? 36:20 Paying attention to details 39:04 Portrayal of FIRE in the media 43:20 The 4% rule (again) 50:30 Annoying things FI people do 53:43 Courses 59:04 Can you live on 400k a year? 1:01:09 Credit card rewards 1:02:50 Teaching teenagers a FIRE mindset 1:04:26 Shifting into decumulation 1:07:26 The ''Spending is bad'' mindset

Doug and Amberly chat about what they've been up to lately and answer some intriguing real estate questions. Advice for beginners Creative buying strategies Managing a property Responding to inquiries Should pets be allowed on properties? Real estate books suggestions Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Is “love” too strong of a word? Good news! You can still support us. Links Whole Life News (get the back story here: Setting Up Wills and Trusts - MHFI 147 Contributing to a retirement account: MHFI 062 Connect with Amberly Grant! AmberlyGrant.com FinTalks Instagram Amberly on Facebook -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 1:30 What's Amberly been up to 10:30 Doug's whole life insurance policy 23:47 Deciding on a number of properties 27:15 Aversions for building up a rental property 30:36 What would Amberly do differently in her real estate journey 33:44 The MOST important advice for beginners 34:04 Where to obtain a rental application 35:05 Creative buying strategies 37:37 Property management 38:54 Maintenance requests 39:53 Should animals be allowed on a property? 41:24 Real estate investing books 41:58 What Amberly is currently investing in

Doug and Carl talk to Longmontian Justin Robbins about how to broach the subject of FIRE with other humans (and if it’s even a good idea)! Background Childhood How Justin turned getting laid off into a great experience Discovering FIRE Telling non-FIRE people about FIRE Carl is a FIsplainer How Justin quit his job Why are American identities so tied up in work? Is FIRE a cult? And will it ever be mainstream? Justin’s biggest challenge in retirement Why Carl thinks FIRE is the best life hack ever Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me A Coffee. Is “love” too strong of a word? Good news! You can still support us. Links Justin's Instagram Justin's Youtube Channel Justin's TikTok Justin's Twitter Longmont's Tower of Compassion Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post. Carl’s blog: 1500 Days -- Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 2:17 Justin's background 8:17 Discovering the FIRE movement 15:15 Thoughts on retirement and going back to work 19:17 The importance of having a supportive partner 22:23 Telling non-FIRE people about FIRE 24:31 Misunderstanding FI 26:32 The ''What do you do for work?'' question 32:18 Should we bother telling other people about FIRE? 36:59 Is the FIRE community a cult? 38:20 Why FI will never be mainstream 43:45 Advice for approaching early retirement 45:36 Exercising your mind 47:00 Hiking 49:54 The impact of inflation on early retirement 53:51 Lessons and challenges 59:21 Why FIRE is the best life hack 1:03:36 The perfect day 1:05:31 Where to find Justin on social media

Doug and Amberly are back for another Mail Bag episode! They answer your questions on a range of topics: Funding children's college education Hiring a (financial) coach To have or not to have kids Renting vs nomadic living Starting a landlord journey Should I max out my 401k or buy a house? As a bonus, our hosts reflect on their personal goals by writing a letter to their future selves. Links Free Link to ChatGPT Cheatsheet Video on ChatGPT to Descript ChatGPT For Beginners -- Check out the Econome Conference - Save money using our coupon code MILEHIGHFI. Carl and Doug will be there, so come and hang out. Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 3:39 What's Amberly been up to 7:20 What's Doug been up to 8:35 Chat GPT is kinda awesome 14:56 Funding kids' college tuition 30:09 Do you NEED a (financial) coach? 42:16 To have or not have kids 46:22 Buying a house vs living as a nomad 50:05 Starting a landlord journey 51:42 Should I max out my 401k or buy a house? 55:22 A letter to our future selves 01:01:38 How you can support us

Carl discusses his crazy $10,000 semi-spontaneous purchase. Buying a private concert with The Webb Brothers Memory dividends Mindy approves The Big Event Philosophical Musings What Doug thinks about all of this What would Doug spend $10,000 on? Stuff versus experiences Why your purchases may become irrelevant someday To budget or not to budget… Staying thoughtful about spending It’s cold in Colorado. The Mile High FI studio in Doug’s basement is even colder. Help keep the studio warm and get cool stuff: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/milehighfi EconoMe: Doug and Carl are going to EconoMe again and are planning a meetup. Get your ticket here and enter MILEHIGHFI at checkout for a discount. See you in Cincinnati! Links The Webb Brothers Kickstarter Maroon (perhaps the Webb’s greatest work) Liar’s Club In A Fashion   -- Check out the Econome Conference - Save money using our coupon code MILEHIGHFI. Carl and Doug will be there, so come and hang out. Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com   0:00 Intro 4:59 Carl bought a concert 16:03 Thoughts on spending money on experiences 19:02 What would Doug spend 10k on? 21:55 More ideas 27:20 Stuff vs experiences 28:33 Do purchases ever become irrelevant? 35:13 Budgeting one crazy purchase per year

It’s another Mail Bag episode! Doug and Carl answer questions about Umbrella insurance policies Does the 4% Rule still apply in light of recent market declines? Is it OK to own a Tesla? (and why is the FI community so judgmental?) Coast FI Reader case study: I’m a late comer to the FI movement Send questions and comments for future Mail Bag episodes to doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com. If you’re reading this, you must love the show. If you love the show, support us. Hey, we’d do it for you! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/milehighfi EconoMe: Doug and Carl are going to EconoMe again and are planning a meetup. Get your ticket here and enter MILEHIGHFI at checkout for a discount. See you in Cincinnati! Links Mile High FI interview: David Baughier Mile High FI interview: Jake Simon Big ERN’s Safe Withdrawal Rate Series Michael Kitces on the 4% Rule S&P 500 PE Ratio Death March to Financial Independence MMM HQ Coworking Doug’s site Carl’s blog: 1500 Days - Check out the Econome Conference - Save money using our coupon code MILEHIGHFI. Carl and Doug will be there, so come and hang out. Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles 1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com 0:00 Intro 1:20 Dry January recap 7:28 How you can support us 10:29 We got some interesting feedback! 12:36 What is an umbrella policy? 16:55 Does the 4% rule still make sense today? 25:57 Investing in a Tesla car 37:56 Join us at Econome! 39:40 Coast FI (again) 47:27 Moving towards FI as a late bloomer