

Mile High FI Podcast
Doug Cunnington & Carl Jensen
Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Doug Cunnington and Carl Jensen talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 1, 2023 • 58min
All the Hacks - Chris Hutchins | MHFI 173
Doug and Carl talk to Chris Hutchins about life hacks, optimization, and key takeaways/changes driven by the book “Die with Zero”. Chris also discusses his podcast “All the Hacks” and his plans to further evolve the brand.
Chris’s passion for digging deep into content that interests him
Taking “All the Hacks” from not only a podcast, but to a platform that builds community through a membership program (dubbed the “AAA for our generation")
Misconceptions about life hacks - looking for shortcuts vs. putting in the work for better outcomes
“Die with Zero” takeaways - maximizing life vs. net worth, time bucketing, providing inheritances before death
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Links
Chris Hutchins:
All the Hacks
All the Hacks Membership
Bill Perkins episode
Arthur Brooks episode
Ramit Sethi
Tim Ferriss
Playing with Fire movie
Rich Roll, Why You Shouldn’t Hack Your Life
Bill Perkins, Die With Zero
Trust & Will
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:49 Ramit Sethi
7:18 Building the podcast
14:34 Chris’s origin story
24:22 Optimization failures
33:24 “Die With Zero” takeaways
44:48 Estate planning
50:09 Chris’s favorite episode & hack

Jul 25, 2023 • 1h 14min
Time Bucketing vs Bucket Lists | MHFI 172
Inspired by the book Die With Zero, Doug and Dusti discuss buckets lists & time buckets and provide personal examples/goals from their own lives.
Definition of bucket lists and time buckets
Doug & Dusti’s backgrounds, life expectations, goals, and personal time buckets by decade.
Bucket planning - with a partner vs. alone, need for flexibility
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Links
Bill Perkins, Die With Zero
Stanford Definition of Bucket List
Business Insider Definition of Time Buckets
Peter Attia, Outlive
Leckerlee Cookies
Oliver Burkeman, Four Thousand Weeks
Thom Lafond
Connect with Dusti:
Instagram
Facebook
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
7:01 Bucket lists
15:38 Time buckets
21:17 Doug & Dusti’s background/life expectations
34:14 Impact of activity & fitness
45:00 What’s in Doug & Dusti’s time buckets
55:43 Planning
1:06:35 Soundcheck - Dancing Doug

Jul 18, 2023 • 54min
Pursuing FI & Professional Identity Struggle | MHFI 171
Doug and Carl talk about a case study submitted by New Jersey Steve! It turns out that Steve is doing really well, but could still use some gentle nudges.
Steve’s money situation (he’s doing really well!)
Should Steve take the new job?
Identity and purpose after leaving work
Leaving money on the table
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Links
Doc G’s book: Taking Stock
Nate Bargatze - Worst time traveler
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:23 TV show recommendations
8:49 Steve’s questions & initial analysis
14:02 Identity crisis
24:54 Squandering opportunities
33:32 How to make a decision
38:05 Value of time vs. money
43:17 Final thoughts
48:56 Soundcheck - Egyptologist

Jul 11, 2023 • 58min
Doug the Stoic | MHFI 170
Carl was harassed by a YouTube troll. Now, he wants to know how to deal with insults. Doug is immune from criticism, so Carl asked him about his stoic ways.
Carl tells the story of the troll
Does Doug consider himself to be stoic?
You don’t matter
The traffic situation that makes Doug mad
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Links
Jocko podcast: Are the insults about you true?
Mr. Money Mustache on BiggerPockets Money
Derek Sivers
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:10 Whiskey
8:34 Doug’s Stoicism journey
15:16 Handling criticism
24:33 Letting go of stress & anxiety
32:46 External validation
39:27 Carl’s Stoic aspirations
44:33 Lowering stress by doing less
52:45 Soundcheck - Writer’s retreat

Jul 4, 2023 • 50min
Unraveling the 4% Rule: Is it Time to Retire? | MHFI 169
Doug and Carl talk about Craig’s money situation.
4% Rule. Yet again.
Craig is KILLING it. He REALLY needs to quit.
Navigating the ACA.
What to do with yourself in retirement.
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Links
Die With Zero
Arik Peterson
Health insurance: Carl and Mindy used this free service to find an ACA plan. It worked great! The service gets paid by the insurance company for the referral.
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:28 Lazy book ideas
9:20 Craig’s questions & initial analysis
16:55 Die With Zero
26:22 Healthcare
30:12 How to fill the time
39:38 Final advice
46:25 Soundcheck - Hydration

Jun 27, 2023 • 58min
Van Life: Hitting the Road with Teri Slater | MHFI 168
Living in a van down by the river used to be for the destitute. Now, all of the cool kids are doing it. Doug and Carl talk about van life with Teri Slater, a Longmont local and friend. Teri is a financial expert with a remarkable story. She got out of 200K in debt, having some very difficult conversations along the way with a spendy partner. Now, she’s building a van to begin the next journey of her life.
Getting out of big debt
Choosing a van
Van conversions
Road trips
Starlink satellite internet
Eating healthy on the road
Full costs revealed
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Links
Teri’s Instagram
Van Life Academy
Harvest Hosts
Boondockers Welcome
Trusted Housesitters
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:25 Intro to Teri Slater
5:11 Getting out of debt
9:49 Van build out
20:50 Planning where to go
25:39 Starlink
31:58 Daily routine & organization
36:57 Eating on the road
40:43 Van life expenses
48:50 Reflections & perfect day
54:10 Soundcheck - Omaha

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 6min
I Will Teach You to be Rich Ep 108 - Behind the Scenes | Bonus | MHFI 167
Carl and Mindy were on Ramit Sethi’s podcast. Why? How? When? Doug gets answers.
Why do this?
What was the experience like?
Stop using the word “optimization!”
Surprising advice
Changes
Do you think that Mile High FI is a great listen? Well then, support us! It’s quick and easy over at Buy Me A Coffee.
Links
I Will Teach You To Be Rich Episode 108: “We achieved FIRE with $4.3M. Why can’t we enjoy it?”
Ramit on Mad FIentist
Support Mile High FI
Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post.
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:51 Why go on Ramit’s podcast?
6:15 What the experience was like
13:40 Issues to solve
19:37 Key takeaways
27:38 Small steps towards change
35:46 “Die With Zero” criticism
42:08 Impact of the interview
50:30 Podcast takeaways & tips
56:40 Cleaning
1:02:20 Soundcheck - Costco grand opening

Jun 20, 2023 • 1h
Entrepreneurship: From Mac & Cheese to Fintech | MHFI 166
Doug and his co-host Amberly chat with Chen-Chen Huo, co-founder of a banking startup called Nexus. Chen-Chen has a very interesting path as an entrepreneur, working first in the mac & cheese business before moving into fintech. Nexus has some cool, disruptive ideas, such as providing users the ability to invest their full balance to earn market returns, with the idea that your bank account should be earning money for you and not the bank.
Choosing entrepreneurship vs. a safer route
Risk avoidance/risk tolerance
What enabled risk-taking & runway for growing a business
Building a good team
Goals at Nexus and how it works
And of course, Mac & Cheese
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Links
Nexus
Nexus on TikTok
Nekus on Instagram
Econome
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
Connect with Amberly Grant!
AmberlyGrant.com
FinTalks
Instagram
Amberly on Facebook
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Build-your-own mac & cheese (MAC’D)
7:19 Amberly & Chen-Chen at Econome
13:47 Chen-Chen’s financial upbringing
20:07 Entrepreneurship & risk-taking
28:57 Nexus - revolutionizing banking
34:54 Comparing food industry vs. fintech
41:11 Building a good team
46:02 Accountability
50:25 How Nexus operates

Jun 13, 2023 • 58min
Financial Mistakes We've Made | MHFI 165
Doug and Carl talk to Kyle Landis-Marinello about the (mostly financial) mistakes each of them have made.
Kyle recounts an interview gone bad and learning about personal finance/financial independence late in life
Carl’s scarcity mindset, not spending enough, not taking much time off, and selling Apple stock to fund a real estate purchase
Doug describes a house purchase and subsequent foreclosure
Other mistakes: Miscalculating student loan repayments, stopping contributions to retirement accounts in down markets, analysis paralysis
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Links
Kyle on MHFI Episode 76
Kyle's website
Kyle's book: Personal Finance and Investing
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
2:37 Reintroduction to Kyle Landis-Marinello
9:08 Kyle’s mistake #1 - Faulty pants
14:13 Kyle’s mistake #2 - Learning about money late
21:06 Carl’s mistake #1 - Not spending
25:33 Carl’s mistake #2 - Selling Apple
29:56 Doug’s mistake - Buying a house
43:12 Kyle’s mistake #3 - Student loans
47:29 Other mistakes
53:10 Soundcheck - Fashion Advice

Jun 6, 2023 • 53min
Retiree's Guide: Overcoming Frugality & Embracing Spending, Pt 4 | MHFI 164
Doug and Carl talk about the shift from saving to spending in retirement. In part 4, they review listener feedback.
Shane talks about how he spent 50% more than planned; and loved it!
Darren and Jolene talk about the difficulty in spending
Anonymous suggests bond ladders as a way to cover retirement spending
Mark talks about the Fun Bucket
Do you love Mile High FI? Support us over at Buy Me a Coffee. It’s the right thing to do. Don’t wait, act now!
Links
Mark’s Money Mind
Do Nothing
Peter Attia
Michael Kitces
Doug’s site - Check out the NEW Sleep Post.
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Bidets
8:56 Comments from Shane - pre & post-FI spending
15:33 Comments from Darren & Jolene - spending flexibility
21:27 Future employment
25:18 Comments from Anonymous - bond ladders
28:06 Doing less
35:59 Comments from Mark - fun bucket
42:43 New Tesla
48:28 Soundcheck - The Gym