
Mile High FI Podcast
Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Doug Cunnington and Carl Jensen talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
Latest episodes

Sep 26, 2023 • 49min
Thoughts On Big Spending And Taylor Swift | MHFI 182
Doug and Carl talk about spending big on experiences including Carl’s Taylor Swift show. When is big spending appropriate? When is it not? Is it OK to experiment with spending?
Intro: Doug cooks in Atlanta while Carl coughs in Longmont
Why Carl went to the Taylor Swift show
How much Carl paid for the ticket (hint: > $999)
Why being an old dude at a Taylor Swift show is strange
What Doug spends money on
Is it OK to fail with spending?
What Doug and Carl are going to spend on this year
Soundcheck: Carl asks Doug about the mysterious origins of his name.
Listener Question: If you had $10,000 to spend on an experience, what would it be? Leave your answer in the comments.
It’s hot in Colorado. The Mile High FI studio in Doug’s basement is hot. Help keep the studio cool and get hot stuff: Buy Me A Coffee
Links
Die With Zero
Carl and Mindy: Behind the Scenes with Ramit Sethi
How To Money
Carl’s $10,000 private concert
Mile High FI Facebook Group
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Recent travels
10:10 Taylor Swift concert experience
19:23 Is Carl crazy?
25:33 Spending big money
30:04 Experiments with spending
36:15 Future spending
43:58 Soundcheck - Nicknames

Sep 19, 2023 • 1h 6min
Credit Score Tips and Myths - Amberly Grant | MHFI 181
Doug and Amberly talk all about credit, from tips for higher credit scores to tackling common myths via a game of True/False. Doug also discusses his own experience with foreclosure and how his credit was impacted.
Doug’s distrust of banks/large institutions. Amberly’s view of the credit system as a necessary evil.
Explanation of credit scores & ranges.
Tips for a higher credit score:
Become an authorized user
Pay your bills on time
Dispute anything wrong on your credit report
Pay off collections
Use a secure credit card
Strategically paying credit cards
Ask for higher credit limits
Apply for new credit cards
Add to your credit mix
Doug’s foreclosure experience and impacts to his credit score.
Credit score game:
True or False. When buying a house you cannot shop around for loans because each time you shop you get hit negatively on your credit score.
True or False. You can’t improve your credit score if you have bad credit.
True or False. Carrying a balance on your credit card will improve your credit score.
Should you close old credit cards to improve your credit score?
True or False. Churning would lower your score to a level that negatively impacts it.
True or False. 0% credit cards are free interest for one whole year.
True or False. If you miss a payment on your credit card they report it to the credit bureau right away.
Looking to boost your credit score? If so, head on over to Buy Me A Coffee. We doubt the official credit bureaus will even notice, but in our eyes you'll have a perfect score!
Links
Entrepreneurship: From Mac & Cheese to Fintech | MHFI 166 (Intro to Nexus banking)
Nerd Wallet tips: “How to Improve Credit Fast”
Lauren & Steven, Trip of a Lifestyle
Steven Keys (Trip of a Lifestyle) on The Doug Show
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
Connect with Amberly Grant!
AmberlyGrant.com
FinTalks
Instagram
Facebook
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
7:50 Thoughts on credit
12:50 Credit scoring
20:10 Tips for a higher credit score
31:22 Foreclosure & credit impacts
41:24 Credit score game
53:53 Support the show?
59:40 Soundcheck - Sushi

Sep 12, 2023 • 1h 16min
CampFI Origins & Cohousing with Stephen Baughier | MHFI 180
Doug and Carl talk to Stephen Baughier about a couple different topics - CampFI and cohousing. Plus, new show sponsor - PeeRidica!
CampFI: Origins, evolution, challenges, changes on the horizon, what attendees should expect, and tips for newcomers
Cohousing: “An efficient neighborhood that builds community”, cohousing basics, Stephen’s specific project (EAGLE Cohousing) in Warner Robins, Georgia
Looking to buy a bottle of PeeRidica, but can't find it online or in-store anywhere? Available exclusively at Buy Me A Coffee!
Carl will be attending CampFI Southwest in Julian, CA on October 6-9, 2023. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code JENSEN at checkout to save 10%. https://campfi.org/event/campfi-southwest-2023/
Links
CampFI
Events
YouTube Channel
Contact information
Eagle Co-housing contact information
Camp Mustache
MHFI episodes recorded live at CampFI
Camp FI Rocky Mountain Panel 2021 | MHFI 015
Creating Camp FI with Stephen Baughier | MHFI 016
Live Q&A with Diania Merriam & Maggie Tucker at Camp FI Southeast | MHFI 068
CAMP FI Southeast LIVE Panel with Maggie Tucker | MHFI 072
Live Q&A at CampFI Southeast | MHFI 104
CampFI LIVE Week 1 | MHFI 175
CampFI LIVE Week 2 | MHFI 179
Marla Taner
CohoUS: A Community of Communities
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
5:27 CampFI origins & evolution
11:50 Breakout sessions
18:09 Challenges
27:00 What to expect/tips
34:56 Cohousing basics
40:26 Stephen’s cohousing project
54:56 Warner Robins
1:04:13 For those interested in cohousing
1:12:36 CampFI speakers

Sep 5, 2023 • 1h 4min
CampFI LIVE Week 2 | MHFI 179
Doug and Carl answer a potpourri of audience questions at CampFI Rocky Mountain with help from meteorologist Kristen Knapp and frequent guest co-host/friend of the show Dusti Young.
What is the biggest lifestyle or other changes that happen between $2.5 million, $5 million, $10 million invested, if any, assuming that you’re relatively frugal but love to travel?
How do you move from a low-cost of living area to a high-cost of living area while pursuing FI?
Are you more afraid of dying young or running out of money?
Could you expound on the state of meteorology and more specifically why weather forecasts are wrong 97% of the time?
What would you change about your finances right now?
Is CampFI a cult?
What are the most efficient tools to plan your FI path and to keep track of the development?
What is your advice to fast-track pursuit of FI if real estate is not an option and index accumulation takes too long?
If you were to start a podcast today, where would you start?
What advice do you have to go from planning to taking action?
How do you know you have enough money?
Carl, do you feel you’ve changed after Ramit Sethi’s interview?
If you could experience being any other person for 24 hours, who would you pick and why?
How has your outlook on life changed in the past two years?
Please address the meaning of life and whether humans have free will over the smell of their pee after eating asparagus?
What is something you value but struggle or have hesitations spending on?
What do you and your partner argue about?
What kind of year has this been for you and what are you the proudest of?
Do you have a question that you want answered? If so, you can email us or head over to Buy Me A Coffee where you can also support the show.
Carl will be attending CampFI Southwest in Julian, CA on October 6-9, 2023. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code JENSEN at checkout to save 10%. https://campfi.org/event/campfi-southwest-2023/
Links
CampFI
Jordan Grumet, Taking Stock
Econome
Wait But Why, The Tail End
ChooseFI
Tim Ferriss, Mr. Money Mustache episode
Mark’s Money Mind
New Retirement
Empower (formerly Personal Capital)
Chris Hutchins
Carl & Mindy on Ramit Sethi’s podcast
Carl & Mindy behind the scenes on MHFI
FinTalks
Connect with Kristen
Connect with Dusti:
Instagram
Facebook
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
2:54 Lifestyle changes
8:16 Dying young vs. running out of money
16:56 Finance changes
22:18 Cult of FI
27:29 Fast-tracking FI
38:53 Enough money
46:38 Outlook on life
57:29 Proud moments

Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 5min
Credit Card Points, Doug's Cognitive Meltdown, Saying NO! | MHFI 178
Doug and Dusti chat about a potpourri of topics.
Credit card points - which cards Doug & Dusti each have, hoarding points
Reflections on Carl & Mindy’s experience on Ramit Sethi’s podcast
Cognitive biases - loss aversion, sunk cost, maximization (optimizing) vs. satisficing
Having a hard time saying NO
Come support the show at Buy Me A Coffee. If you're like Doug & Dusti, we bet you'll have a hard time saying NO!
Carl will be attending CampFI Southwest in Julian, CA on October 6-9, 2023. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code JENSEN at checkout to save 10%. https://campfi.org/event/campfi-southwest-2023/
Links
ChooseFI Travel Rewards
Steven Keys (Trip of a Lifestyle) on The Doug Show
Carl & Mindy on Ramit Sethi’s podcast
Carl & Mindy behind the scenes on MHFI
Barry Schwartz, Paradox of Choice
Logan Ury, How to Not Die Alone
Derek Sivers, Hell Yeah or No
SideDish podcast
Connect with Dusti:
Instagram
Facebook
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
7:23 Credit card points
19:24 Carl & Mindy & Ramit
26:27 Loss aversion
36:56 Sunk cost
38:55 Maximization
45:25 Just say NO
59:11 Soundcheck - Go-karting

Aug 22, 2023 • 1h 5min
Mailbag in Leadville | MHFI 177
Doug and Carl answer mailbag questions in this Taylor Swift-infused episode from Leadville, CO. Carl also announces the new Mile High FI Facebook group.
Does it ever get any easier to ride the market swings mentally?
How would you reallocate your investments if there were no tax implications?
What did Doug’s (and Carl’s) parents do right?
Do you wish you had taken a gap year or had a little more fun when you were young?
Experiences at CampFI?
Thoughts on imposter syndrome?
Do you love us as much as we love Taylor Swift? If so, head on over to Buy Me A Coffee to join other Swifties in supporting the show.
Carl will be attending CampFI Southwest in Julian, CA on October 6-9, 2023. For those interested in attending, use the coupon code JENSEN at checkout to save 10%. https://campfi.org/event/campfi-southwest-2023/
Links
Brian Feroldi
Mile High FI Facebook group
CampFI
NoCo Mustachians
FinTalks
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
3:18 Taylor Swift
9:41 Market swings
17:34 Investment reallocation
23:50 Parental influence
27:42 Gap years
35:06 CampFI
44:45 Imposter syndrome
54:42 Calls to action
1:02:29 Soundcheck - Leadville

Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 11min
Mad Fientist on Evolution of FIRE: A Founder's Reflections | MHFI 176
Brandon, the Mad Fientist, has changed his view on FIRE and spending over the years. This is a rebroadcast of the interview from early 2022, and there is a new introduction in the first few minutes. Bradon has been on a bunch of podcasts in the last few months, and he's embracing spending.
So you might have heard Brandon on Choose FI, Bigger Pockets Money, or his own podcast talking to Ramit Sethi about spending more and trying to be less frugal. So it's cool to hear how he has changed his views over time.
- Carl and Brandon reminisce about their first meeting almost 10 years ago!
- Discovering JD Roth and FIRE
- Mad Fientist: new features coming soon to the FI Laboratory
- How to spend money or not (The Switzerland Incident)
- Michelin 3 star restaurants versus Taco Bell
- Where is the FIRE movement going?
- Why the Mad Fientist loves routines
- For the love of coding
Links
Mad Fientist - Financial Independence and Early Retirement
Mad Fientist's Music
Travel Credit Cards
Get Rich Slowly - Personal finance that makes sense
The Escape Artist
Mr. Money Mustache
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**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com

Aug 15, 2023 • 48min
CampFI LIVE Week 1 | MHFI 175
Doug and Carl answer a potpourri of audience questions at CampFI Rocky Mountain with help from Becky Heptig (Catching up to FI) and Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind).
Best place to invest money in today’s environment?
Best budget travel places?
How to find your niche in the podcast world?
What is a failure you experienced?
What caused dinosaurs to become extinct?
At what point in a relationship do you start having financial conversations?
What’s better - increasing income or decreasing expenses?
Who should pay for the first date?
How to date while FI?
What sets your podcast apart?
What do you wish for your podcast audience to do better?
How do you keep your podcast from becoming an echo chamber?
Best first credit card?
Who has experience with whole life insurance/infinite banking?
Where can I find a financially independent man/partner?
Withdrawal frequency with 4% rule?
What would you improve about the FI community?
What’s the craziest financial mistake you’ve seen someone make?
Best type of property to invest in?
What was the pivotal moment in your FI journey?
Is FI a fad or does it have staying power?
What is the best way to increase your rental income?
Adding children to parents’ insurance policy?
Do you have a question that you want answered? If so, you can email us or head over to Buy Me A Coffee where you can also support the show.
Links
CampFI
Catching up to FI
Mark’s Money Mind
Mr. Money Mustache
ChooseFI
Jacob Lund Fisker
Ramit Sethi
Econome
FI Freedom Retreat
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
2:05 Budget travel
9:36 Finances in relationships & dating
16:00 Podcast questions
23:33 FI community improvements
30:53 Is FI a fad?
38:30 Mark’s fun bucket

Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 24min
"Revoke My FI Membership Card!" - Amberly Grant | MHFI 174
Doug and Amberly chat about key tenants of Financial Independence, shifts in the community over the years, and how each of them have “failed” in different FI-related areas (along with some successes). Amberly also shares details of an upcoming FI cruise!
Change in FI philosophy from a focus on saving to spending & living a fulfilling life.
Doug & Amberly’s FI failures: credit card points/travel rewards, budgeting & tracking expenses, 4% rule, optimizing contributions to retirement accounts, savings rate, frugality, whole life insurance, house hacking, college degrees, travel, buying a new home,
Success with mindful consumption
Amberly’s experience with CNBC & dealing with early retirement critics
Trying to maintain your FI Membership Card? One way to do this is by supporting us at Buy Me A Coffee. (Disclaimer: No actual membership card will be provided)
Links
Mad Fientist
ChooseFI Travel Rewards
The Fioneers
Mark’s Money Mind
Fincon
Amberly on CNBC
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
Connect with Amberly Grant!
AmberlyGrant.com
FinTalks
Instagram
Facebook
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:56 FinTalks cruise
7:57 Shifts in the FIRE community
14:52 Failure #1: Travel rewards
22:42 Failure #2: Budgeting & expense tracking
35:38 Failure #3: 4% rule
38:37 Failure #4: Optimizing retirement contributions
46:15 Failure #5: Savings rate
48:25 Failure #6: Frugality
1:00:40 Misc failures & mindful consumption
1:09:35 Criticism of early retirement
1:18:20 Soundcheck - Hot sauce

Aug 1, 2023 • 58min
All the Hacks - Chris Hutchins | MHFI 173
Doug and Carl talk to Chris Hutchins about life hacks, optimization, and key takeaways/changes driven by the book “Die with Zero”. Chris also discusses his podcast “All the Hacks” and his plans to further evolve the brand.
Chris’s passion for digging deep into content that interests him
Taking “All the Hacks” from not only a podcast, but to a platform that builds community through a membership program (dubbed the “AAA for our generation")
Misconceptions about life hacks - looking for shortcuts vs. putting in the work for better outcomes
“Die with Zero” takeaways - maximizing life vs. net worth, time bucketing, providing inheritances before death
One of the best hacks is supporting Mile High FI. Come on over to Buy Me A Coffee to start optimizing your life today!
Links
Chris Hutchins:
All the Hacks
All the Hacks Membership
Bill Perkins episode
Arthur Brooks episode
Ramit Sethi
Tim Ferriss
Playing with Fire movie
Rich Roll, Why You Shouldn’t Hack Your Life
Bill Perkins, Die With Zero
Trust & Will
Doug’s site
Carl’s blog: 1500 Days
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Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s our email list!
Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shorts & more
**Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won't even make such a claim. You shouldn't take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren't certified financial planners or advisors. We're not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.**
Brought To You By:
The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles
1500 Days, Carl's Blog about Early Retirement
Email us here: doug@milehighfi.com or carl@milehighfi.com
0:00 Introduction
1:49 Ramit Sethi
7:18 Building the podcast
14:34 Chris’s origin story
24:22 Optimization failures
33:24 “Die With Zero” takeaways
44:48 Estate planning
50:09 Chris’s favorite episode & hack