
Perennial Wisdom
Perennial Wisdom (formerly In Search of Wisdom) is a podcast for seekers and curious minds. Join the search with J.W. Bertolotti (creator of the Perennial Meditations newsletter) to discover practical wisdom from philosophical and spiritual traditions. Learn more at perennial.substack.com.
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Jul 20, 2022 • 53min
Shane Sorensen | Renaissance Wisdom - How to Flourish in the Modern Day
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In this episode, my guest is Shane Sorensen, the author of the new book Renaissance Wisdom: How to Flourish in the Modern Day. Shane is a self-taught philosopher, avid fitness enthusiast, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt, and someone with a deep passion for wisdom. You can learn more about Shane at renaissance-wisdom.com.
In the conversation, Shane and I discuss:
The Renaissance period
Flourishing vs. happiness
Overcoming self-limiting beliefs
The Middle Way
Meditating on mortality
Wisdom in daily life and much more
Connect with Shane Sorensen: instagram.com/renaissancewisdom/
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Jul 17, 2022 • 10min
Seneca | On the Happy Life (Part II)
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Welcome to the Sunday edition of In Search of Wisdom. Here we slow things down, find time for stillness, and take a deeper dive into the ancient texts. We reflect on selected readings from philosophical and spiritual traditions to help us live our highest good. To learn more, you can visit perennialleader.com.
In this episode, we continue our selected reading of Seneca’s On the Happy Life. According to Seneca, “What prevents us from saying that the happy life is free, upright, fearless, and stable mind, placed beyond fear and beyond desire" […]
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Jul 14, 2022 • 36min
Brandon Tumblin | The Wisdom of Dostoevsky
In today’s episode, I’m sharing the second part of my recent conversations with my good friend Brandon Tumblin (the host of The Strong Stoic podcast). Brandon has been on the podcast multiple times and today we focus on the wisdom of Dostoevsky. Brandon has an upcoming talk on Dostoevsky for The Walled Garden Philosophical Society which I highly encourage you to check out. You can sign up at thewalledgarden.com. Brandon’s talk is actually scheduled for later today (14 Jul at 5:00 pm EST). I’ll put a link in the show notes to check it out, it's completely free and delivered live over Zoom.
In the conversation, Brandon and I discuss:
Why Dostoevsky is a resource for wisdom
We discuss some of his notable works and where to start
How Dostoevsky might define wisdom
Happiness, responsibility, and much more
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Jul 13, 2022 • 53min
Brandon Tumblin | Creating Harmony in the Chaos of Life
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In this episode, my guest is Brandon Tumblin the host of The Strong Stoic podcast. Brandon is a return guest on the show and as you’ll hear us talk about in the episode — we take a deep dive into the topic of harmony. Brandon did a solo episode on his podcast on harmony that I loved. So, I asked him to come on to share some wisdom about how we might find harmony amid the chaos of life. Connect with Brandon: brandontumblin.com/
In the conversation, Brandon and I discuss:
Why understanding harmony matters
The obstacles to creating harmony
How to play your part
Finding a balance between order and chaos
How to deal with people that are creating chaos, and much more
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Jul 10, 2022 • 7min
Seneca | On the Happy Life (Part I)
Welcome to the Sunday edition of In Search of Wisdom. Here we slow things down, find time for stillness, and take a deeper dive into the ancient texts. We reflect on selected readings from philosophical and spiritual traditions to help us live our highest good. To learn more, you can visit perennialleader.com.
In this episode, we reflect on Seneca’s On the Happy Life. According to Seneca, “Everyone wants to live happily, but when it comes to discerning what it is that makes life happy, they are in the dark.” […]
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Jul 6, 2022 • 1h 3min
Dr. Brian Russell | The Wisdom of Forgiveness
In this episode, my guest is Dr. Brian Russell the author of Centering Prayer and host of the Deep Dive Spirituality Conversations podcast. Brian is a return guest to the show, and someone with a great deal of wisdom to share. He is a professor of biblical studies and a transformational coach for pastors and spiritually-minded professionals.
In the conversation, Brian and I discuss:
How to define forgiveness
Why the practice of forgiveness is so challenging
What’s possible in the way of forgiveness.
How a stillness practice can help us
The connection between wisdom and forgiveness, and much more
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Jun 29, 2022 • 57min
Dr. Bruce Tallman | The Paradox of Love and Wisdom
In this episode, my guest is Dr. Bruce Tallman the author of the new book God’s Ecstatic Love. Bruce is a Spiritual Director and Marriage Counselor. He is the author of four books and has written hundreds of articles on spirituality published in the London Free Press and other newspapers and is an adjunct faculty for the Haden Institute for Spiritual Directors Training.
In the conversation, Dr. Tallman and I discuss:
Spiritual direction and formation
Searching for meaning
The paradox of love and wisdom
Navigating suffering in relationships
Wisdom in daily life and much more
Connect with Dr. Bruce Tallman: brucetallman.com/
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Jun 22, 2022 • 1h 4min
Chris Fisher | Stoicism as a Way of Life
In today’s episode, my guest is Chris Fisher, the host of the Stoicism on Fire podcast and the creator of TraditionalStoicism.com. Chris started his blog in 2015 to provide material for those who are interested in Traditional Stoic theory and practice. In 2018, he started the Stoicism on Fire podcast. Chris now serves as the second Scholarch of The College of Stoic Philosophers.
In the conversation, Chris and I discuss:
The search for Stoic wisdom
Traditional Stoicism
The need for responsibility
How worldviews shape our actions
Wisdom in daily life and much more
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Jun 15, 2022 • 41min
Ryan Hawk | The Pursuit of Excellence
In this episode, my guest is Ryan Hawk (@RyanHawk12), the author of the new book The Pursuit of Excellence. Ryan is the founder and host of The Learning Leader Show (a podcast with nearly 500 episodes). He’s an avid speaker on leadership and personal and professional development.
In the conversation, Ryan and I discuss:
Leadership and excellence
Loving what you do
The connection between gratitude and excellence
Humility and patience on the path
The wisdom of reading
How to be consistent and much more
Selected books/resources mentioned:
The Greats on Leadership by Jocelyn Davis
The Score Takes Care of Itself by Bill Walsh
Good to Great by Jim Collins
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Jun 8, 2022 • 1h
Dr. Lisa Miller | The Awakened Brain
In this episode, my guest is Dr. Lisa Miller, the author of the new book The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and our Quest for an Inspired Life. Dr. Miller is a New York Times bestselling author and a professor in the Clinical Psychology Program at Teachers College, Columbia University. She is the Founder and Director of the Spirituality Mind Body Institute, which is the first Ivy League graduate program and research institute in spirituality and psychology.
In the conversation, Dr. Miller and I discuss:
Navigating science and spirituality
Finding meaning in life
The science of desire and clinging
Wisdom and nature
Letting life unfold and much more
Connect with Dr. Lisa Miller: lisamillerphd.com/
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