Healing The Spirit: Astrology, Archetypes & Artmaking

In today’s episode, I’m joined by my friend, Mariola Rosario. Mariola and I both identify as seekers on our paths, and in this conversation, we explored the archetype of the underworld with beginners’ mind through the lens of The Fool, the questioner. We discussed what the underworld is, how depictions of the underworld are dictate by the empire’s relationship to death, how Mariola’s experience growing up in Puerto Rico influence her view of the underworld, and some tips on how to navigate our own underworld experiences. We also discussed the question of “What if astrology is more than just a language?”Here's Mariola's bio: Mariola Rosario (she/her) is a witch, astrologer, teacher, artist and independent researcher from Borikén, the land known as Puerto Rico. She is currently living and experiencing our global collapse from the shores of Paris, France. Mariola loves collaborating with artists, intuitives, freaks, ghouls, old, new & curious souls, students, teachers, organizers, activists, ancestors, flowers, plants, animals, candles, tarot, planets and beyond. She has always found herself somewhere between the teacher-student axis and would like to continue to find alternative and more compassionate routes towards inclusive pedagogy and revolutionary, anti-extractive modes of learning and co-creating spaces of magical and material mutual aid.   Mariola’s books are open for one-on-one astrology consultations in English and Spanish. Connect with Mariola on through her website mariolarosario.com and her Instagram @mariola_rosario. Some resources mentioned in this episode are: Antonio Machado's Caminante, no hay camino and Alice Sparkly Kat's Postcolonial Astrology. Also, Britten LaRue's offering The Magician's Table - where Mariola will be one of the 13th readers this coming Spring 2022.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In today’s episode, my guest in conversation and my partner in crime is Mary Schuch. As two survivors of religious trauma who are still #1 Fan of Spirit (TM), we explored Hierophant themes: cultish behaviors, why we engage in them, and how developing an awareness of power dynamics can lead us to new ways of being in teacher-student relationships. We also discussed Mary’s relationship to her inner teacher and how it’s shifted through being in voluntary learning spaces and committing to her own personal practices.Our conversation was fun, funny, wild, irreverent, and completely non-linear. Listening back, it feels brave to me - questions and ponderings were required and answers were optional. We spoke in metaphors and along the way, there were tons of laughters, detours, thinking on our feet, and, of course, cursing.Here's Mary's bio:Mary describes herself as someone who is committed to showing up for the experience of belonging in a human body.Informed by her upbringing as a homeschooled pastor's kid and the eighth of eleven siblings, Mary is reclaiming her right to exploration and education.She values meditative multidisciplinary living through her practices of writing, music, art, movement, breadmaking, astrology, and being outdoors. Through these avenues, Mary is joyfully emerging as an intuitive and comedic mystic.Mary has spent most of the last decade deep in thought in gardens, on a lobster boat, and more recently, an oyster farm. She is originally from the Chicago area and currently lives on an island in Maine.Connect with Mary on Instagram @maryschuch and book a reading with her. Mary always helps me gain new insights and perspectives, and she also makes me laugh - which is truly the best medicine. Mary also mentioned the book Writing the Mind Alive: The Proprioceptive Method for Finding Your Authentic Voice by Linda Trichter Metcalf, Tobin Simon. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In today’s episode, I had a conversation with Natasha Levinger, who’s an intuitive reader, inner child healing teacher, and energy healer. We discussed Natasha’s journey to finding this work, the difference between energy reading / energy healing and psychic work, the role of empowerment and imagination in her work; the relationship between creativity, perfectionism, and collaboration; and also some very nuanced discussions on love, light, and spiritual bypassing. It’s a conversation with lots of full-bellied laughs - and listening back I love how Natasha’s generous and kind energy really came through.CW: We discussed suicidal thoughts in this episode.Here’s Natasha's bio:  Natasha grew up as a sensitive empath in a home where it was very challenging to be one. After she left home she became impassioned to know herself well enough to decipher what was her information or her feelings and what was coming from her family programming and trauma or other people. After years of self healing and education ranging from a B.A. in Human Development to a variety of disciplines of energy healing, she decided to make it her life’s work to help others.Using a mix of an energy reading and healing model that involves the chakra system and other modes of therapeutic models such as Inner Child Healing and Mindful Self Compassion, she has helped hundreds of people to heal past trauma. She also has a passion for animals and loves helping people connect and communicate to their animals with her help. Through her practice, Highest Light Healing, she looks forward to helping even more people through classes, sessions with her, guided meditations and more.Natasha lives in Asheville, NC with her husband, two children and (currently) 16 rescue animals!Connect with Natasha through her website, Instagram @highestlighthealing, her podcast with Tess Whitehurst Magic Monday, and her energy reports on MindBodyGreen. You can also book readings, join her courses, and resources like meditations and workbooks on her site.  Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

There are two forces that I feel most palpably in my lived experiences thus far: creativity and connection to the numinous. On the surface, they appear contradictory. What does it mean to be a creative, agential being that's also connected to a larger network that one can't fully control? And what does that have to do with healing?In this episode, I welcome you to the podcast by sharing what I've learned from my own journey. From a position of continued learning, rather than expertise. From authorship, rather than authority. What does healing even mean and can we ever really know? What does that process look like? And how can the very human technologies of astrology, archetypes, and artmaking help us remember what it means to be the child of the cosmos?Have a listen and connect with me if you'd like to share your thoughts. You can find me on Instagram @nate_qi and subscribe to my newsletter here. Or email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.You can also listen to the singer-songwriter album I mentioned  in this episode here. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In today’s episode, I had a conversation with my friend Aliza Penelope. We spoke about Aliza’s very synchronistic and magical introduction to astrology and energy, her evolving relationship with the two modalities, and the language of dreams. At some point during our conversation, I felt like we entered another space and dimension - a world where personal storytelling, astrology, archetypes, and dreams all melt into a unified field. It all felt very Neptunian to me. At the heart of our conversation, Aliza and I were exploring what it means to be inherently contradictory beings, humans who are capable of experiencing deep connections and as well as challenges. Aliza and I are also both Virgo risings and I think you can sense this during our discussions  on how to live in a world where things are always coming together and dissolving. Here's Aliza's bio: Aliza is a writer whose process circles around and through astrology, film, music, visual art, sociology, psychology and the dream-space. She values process and mistakes, vulnerability, intimacy, and imperfection. She is a searcher, and her holy grail is a deeper and deeper kindness.Connect with Aliza through her website charikloenergy.com to book chart consultation and remote energy sessions, as well as through her IG, @c_h_a_r_i_k_l_o to read her beautiful astrology writings. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In this very special episode, I'm joined by my fellow classmates from Meteorite 2021, an astrological embodiment container facilitated by Sabrina Monarch. We discussed the idea of astrology as a future language. We also discussed the idea of the spirit of language, our own personal experiences learning astrology, what it means to be human beings who interact with the vast possibilities of the astrological language, and the future of astrology within our communities.A special thank you to Verena Borell, Sabrina Monarch, Mirella Trimboli, Kelly Chalmers, Jenny Chu, A.S. Katoch (Rudy), Maddie Gaieski, Fabiola Calvo, and Nicole Elyse for contributing their incredible insights. Connect with them  and check out their incredible offerings!Learn more about Meteorite 2022 Class here. Application is open until February 28, 2022.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.Here are timestamps for our discussion:[06:44] Jonathan on the concept of Future Language.[12:04] Verena on simultaneously learning astrology and English[17:00] Sabrina on language to describe something never named before, and the somatic experience of receiving that language; the contrast between daily language and astrology[20:20] Mirella on the experience of learning astrology alongside Italian; approaching languages through analytical means vs. intuitively allowing language to wash over you; the feeling component in language[27:34] Kelly on how archetypes infuse our consciousness; how astrology introduces us to dimensions not available in our education and work systems[30:50] Verena on the movement of the astrological nodal axis from Gemini - Sagittarius into Taurus - Scorpio.[33:48] Jenny on language and meaning-making; the slippery, ever-shifting nature of astrology challenging our notion of fixed-ness in our meaning-making.[36:44] Jonathan on channeling - how artists and corporate VPs are essentially channeling when they create something out of nothing; how to be a clear channel[38:42] Kelly on working with the chart to guide ourselves to find the appropriate setup for our specific channels[39:48] Sabrina on the relationship between Vesta and Hermes: the importance of discerning the fire we want to tend to in being a clear channel[42:04] Mirella on the connection between Mercury and Uranus[43:36] Verena on the Akashic records: the potential overwhelm and the need for discernment when working in the vast realm of information[47:14] Maddie on astrology as the lens with potential to evolve us and those around us[48:04] Jenny on the how language can get stuck, how astrology can be flattened; the need to be careful about creating a dogmatic framework using language that can be used to categorize people[49:40] Jonathan on moving away from completely merging the human and their birth chart in astrological readings[51:12] Fabiola on how astrology holds the spirit of connection and as the language of movement, connecting to dreams and more fluid ways of being in the world; astrology as the language that offers an alternative to pain associated with our daily language[53:22] Nicole on using language to disguise one’s self and to blend in; astrology as a language we can use for ourselves and our use only, to get to know ourselves.[56:04] Rudy on developing astrological fluency alongside the language of depth psychology; the Logos of astrological language.[1:03:56] Verena on the fear of speaking, the witch wound in relation to Capricorn, Gemini, and Scorpio; the power of astrology in helping liberate us from the fear of speaking out[1:08:24] Jonathan muses that perhaps astrology is more than a language, and how astrology itself has evolved over time. How do we revolutionize astrology? Is astrology more than a language?[1:09:40] Sabrina on bridging astrology with other disciplines.[1:11:26] Jenny on bridging decolonization work with studying the divine.[1:13:52] Kelly on the role of our throat’s vibration in creating our reality and how our colonized languages create a veil that prevents us from seeing this.[1:17:06] Verena on our collective move to a new timeline; the need for us to expand the astrological language as astrologers.[1:23:04] Sabrina on considering each archetype as sentient beings and cultivating non-extractive relationships with astrology[1:25:50] Kelly on working at an energetic level to bring us to deeper relationships with archetypes[1:27:36] Rudy on the etymology of oration; astrology as prayer, which goes beyond language. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In today’s episode, my guest in conversation is Sharon Koe. Our conversation here revolved around radical acceptance: what it means, how it applies to working with others in learning spaces, and how Sharon is working with radical acceptance in her work, which has been impacted significantly by the lockdown. Finally, we also discussed how systemic silencing impacts us on a somatic level. It was a rich and truly spiralic conversation full of metaphors.Here's Sharon's bio: Sharon is an educator, passionate (sometimes to a fault!) to free minds (and bodies) out of fear, and make a-ha moments a common experience. These days she does that through Pilates, and also through written and spoken words - if you let her talk, she just keeps going. She owes a lot of her a-ha moments through her forever teacher and guide, the host of this podcast (aka Jonathan!) :)Connect with Sharon through her personal IG account @sharonchristykoe for her Ramble Cure Project and new updates on what she's up to, as well as through her studio's account @bravespinepilates for her use of words to free bodies of fear.  Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

In this episode, Jenny Chu and I created a rich conversation on time that stretched beyond strict, societally-agreed definitions. We reached into relational, experiential exploration of how we can be with time, calling into question our perception of time, our sense of the spirit of time, our shared love for the work of the Italian physicist Carlo Rovelli, and how studying astrology has changed our relationship with time. Jenny has a truly brilliant mind and is a beautiful conversationalist so our discussion (spiralically) branched out in many different ways that feels very organic. In addition to the topic of time, we also explored the Buddhist idea of the Middle Path, the I-Ching and other forms of divination, and even how Evolutionary Astrology connects with Buddhism. All of these seemingly disparate topics are brought together in such a seamless way throughout this conversation. A little bit about our astrological birth charts - Jenny’s North Node in Gemini is in very close conjunction with my Moon in Gemini, and I think you’ll probably be able to hear it. This conversation feels lit up and connected with the energy of Gemini and Sagittarius in the best way possible. Here's Jenny's bio: Jenny M. Chu is a thinking artist and she's an older sister to a younger brother and raised by two immigrant parents by way of Saigon and Hong Kong. She has studied evolutionary astrology with Sabrina Monarch, embodied astrology with Renee Sills, and is currently in the Transits and Predictive Astrology Cohort led by Oak of Oak Astrology that centers decolonization and the BIPOC experience.Connect with Jenny through her Instagram account @AZN_Auntie_Astro.  Jenny is currently offering 1-hour natal chart readings through AZN Auntie Astro. You can schedule with her directly at the Calendly link or you can reach her directly via Instagram at AZN_Auntie_Astro if you have any questions.Some resources that we mentioned: Carlo Rovelli's The Order of Time, Dali's The Persistence of Memory, and Richard Tarnas's Cosmos and Psyche. Sign up for my newsletter to read my essays and be the first to hear about new offerings here.If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.