

Healing The Spirit: Astrology, Archetypes & Artmaking
Jonathan Koe
Healing the Spirit is a space where we awaken our creativity, deepen our connections, and remember who we are. I’m your host, Jonathan Koe. Through the lens of astrology, archetypes, and artmaking, my guests and I will take you through a journey to explore what it means to be human as we reclaim our sacred roles in the web of life.
This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. You can also book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. You can also book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
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Mar 31, 2022 • 45min
13. Liberating Our Unique Voice Through Podcasting (Solo)
Many of us struggle with sharing our creative projects. How do we move from the space of fear, of stuckness, of doubt into liberation, generous sharing, and, dare we hope, ease?In this solo episode, I took a walk down memory lane and shared the BTS (behind-the-scenes) stories of how I created this podcast - from its ideation to gestation to birth. I also shared a smörgåsbord of lessons I learned along the way about my process, creativity in general, and remembering my own unique voice.Many of us struggle with sharing our creative projects. How do we move from the space of fear, of stuckness, of doubt into liberation, generous sharing, and, dare we hope, ease?Creation is a two way street. It’s not just you generating your creations. Our creations and the act of creating them also have regenerative powers for you. Allowing ourselves to step out of the way so our creative projects can be birthed through us can be very liberating. My hope is that this share will inspire you to take aligned actions that nurture your creative flames.Some of themes I explored in this episode:Expanding our understanding of what creativity looks likeCreating alongside your intuition and the Akashic RecordsFear of using the voice and my journey around peeling layers of conditioning around using and sharing my voiceExpanding our nervous system capacity as an integral part of the creative processHonoring rest and non-linearity as part of our truth, our deep longing, and our intelligent design. I’d love to hear from you! On a personal level, I love hearing other people’s creative process and so, I want to create this episode as a time capsule for myself and for others who are hoping to share their gifts. For those of you dreaming of your own podcast, I hope this share is especially relevant.I mentioned a few of my teachers: Sabrina Monarch who encouraged me to create this podcast as the final project of her astrological embodiment program, Jamie Leonhart who taught me how to more easefully embody my voice, Deborah Kremins who taught me how to work with healing past lives energetic imprints and the energy arts, and Britten LaRue who taught me astrology and graciously invited me to collaborate with her in mentoring other emerging astrologers. I also mentioned Tan France and Catherine O’Hara’s character on Schitt’s Creek, Moira.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book a reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Mar 4, 2022 • 1h 37min
12. Britten LaRue: Emergence Astrology
I’m honored to have Britten LaRue as my partner in this conversation. Together, we explored Britten’s unique approach to the craft of astrology. She brilliantly coined the term Emergence Astrology to describe her practice and we traced the journey of how that concept crystallized for her as well as how her relationship with seeking answers has changed since her astrological journey began. We also discussed how to resource one’s self in order to steward creative ideas, how to compost your life experiences and the skills you learned from previous chapters of your life in order to build the life that feels resonant to you, and Britten’s experience stepping into the role of someone who helps others answer their calling to share their gifts with others - which required her to de-center herself in community while also allowing her gifts to assist others.Here's Britten's bio: Britten LaRue is a transformational life guide and magical business coach. She supports her community primarily with technologies of intuitive listening, which include wisdom she receives from astrology and the tarot. Britten is the creator of Emergence Astrology, which leans on this ancient symbolic language to help us become approachable to the self and the wild path that is emerging in the dark for us. Britten serves and mentors one-on-one clients, a vast community of students, podcast fans, and thousands of readers of her workbooks.Connect with Britten and learn more about her offerings through her website brittenlarue.com, her Instagram @brittenlarue, and her podcast Moon to Moon. Sign up for the waiting list for Britten's powerful offering for emerging readers The Magician's Table to be the first to listen to apply when the portal opens on March 11. Space is limited and if you feel yourself craving for a framework to assist you in your emergence, you won't want to miss this offering! This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 33min
11. Sabrina Monarch: Pluto, Manifestation & Shadow Work
My guest in conversation today is one of my beloved astrology teachers, friend, and mentor, Sabrina Monarch. We sat down sometime in late 2021 to record a deep, honest, nuanced, and open conversation about Sabrina’s personal practices. Sabrina shared how our spiritual practices and spiritual lives can be a 360 degree practice - from finding ourselves reflected in an archetypal language to manifestation and visualization to allowing that to trickle down to more fully owning up to our Plutonic power on an embodied way. We discussed the very real, personal ways that astrology helped Sabrina through her own spiritual awakening, how true manifestation and shadow work are actually two sides of the same coin, and how Pluto relates to her embodiment practices.Here's Sabrina's bio: Sabrina Monarch is an author, evolutionary astrologer, and counselor/coach. She gained an unconventional education in creative writing by discovering an online writing community at age 12 and gaining dozens of mentors who would help her learn how to write for the next several years. She developed an interest in astrology at a young age as well, and took her craft deeper in her early twenties. She writes weekly forecasts at www.monarchastrology.com, is the host of a podcast about spiritual lifestyle and personal evolution called Magic of the Spheres, and she teaches astrology online, including an all-levels Evolutionary Astrology Intensive and advanced alumni courses. Sabrina is widely appreciated for her poetic voice and capacity to name subtle, abstract undercurrents of any particular astrological moment. She has an M.A. in Philosophy, Cosmology and Consciousness from the California Institute of Integral Studies and currently resides in Portland, Oregon.Connect with Sabrina on Instagram @sabrinamonarch, on Facebook, or through her website www.monarchastrology.com. Sabrina's Evolutionary Astrology Intensive is such a potent offering that brings together communities of curious and brilliant seekers together for a deep dive into a soul-centered astrological path, of which I'm a proud alumni. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 24, 2022 • 1h 22min
10. Mallory Dowd: Love Notes to Capricorn
In today’s episode, I had a conversation with my friend Mallory Dowd. Mallory and I discussed the archetype of Capricorn - which we both feel can be quite misunderstood, or perhaps is up for a re-thinking, re-visioning, re-defining. We spoke to how Capricorn can be understood beyond the confines of our patriarchal, colonial, capitalistic framework as The Artist, The Mystic, The Ritualist, The Crone. Mallory also shared her beautiful love notes to Capricorn, some thoughts around how to work with the Capricorn energy when we feel like there’s too much of it in our system, and how Capricorn is personally meaningful to her when seen through the lens of her lineage. As Virgo risings, Mallory and I both have Capricorn ruling the 5th house of joy, creativity, pleasure, and self-expression in our birth charts. This conversation serves both as a devotional prayer and a critical study of Capricorn through the lens of our lived experiences and the infinite possibilities this archetype holds. Here's Mallory's bio: Mallory Dowd is a tarot reader, artist, teacher, theatre-maker, storyteller, and mystic. She has been holding space for over 15 years in varying roles as a clinical case manager, domestic violence advocate, support group facilitator, teacher, and tarot reader. As an artist, Mallory aims to enchant and awaken, casting spells with her words and urgently embodying the gifts of creativity, imagination, and play. As a reader, she holds warm and compassionate space in which to embrace the energies and invitations that linger on the edges of awareness, desire, and change. She currently resides in Seoul, South Korea.Connect with Mallory through her website and her Instagram @mallorydowd - where you can check out her blackout poetry and her profound musings on the tarot. Mallory offers both live and recorded readings, and I highly recommend you check out her very potent offerings. She's helped me through some gnarly times and I'm so deeply grateful for Mallory's work.This podcast is hosted, produced, edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 23, 2022 • 1h 24min
9. Rebecca Padgett: Healing The Inner Child Through Art & Mysticism
In today’s episode, I’m joined by my friend Rebecca Padgett. As humans who identify both as artists and mystics, Rebecca and I wanted to explore the intersection between these two worlds. We discussed how artmaking and mystical practices can connect us deeper with our true selves and heal our inner child, ways to work with our inner critic (which is a topic we both know quite well as two Virgo risings), and how to honor our lineage through our personal and public practices. Rebecca also has a stellium of planets in Libra in her 2nd house, and she shared some incredible wisdom about the 2H that really helped me understand this astrological house better.Here's Rebecca's bio:Rebecca Padgett is a tarot reader, astrologer, visual artist, and dedicated student of divinatory and intuitive practices. She lives and works in a century farmhouse near Warsaw, Ontario.Her attraction to all things mystical began in childhood. From a young age, she felt a connection to something more than what she could see and feel in this physical world. As her intuition developed, so did her sensitivity to the energy of others here and on the “other side.” Inspired by her family lineage, she undertook an intensive period of study with a variety of internationally renowned teachers, astrologers, and tarot readers to clarify her own experiences, find her voice, and refine her ability to share her intuition with others. She takes great pride in being able to reflect that knowledge to each person who comes to her seeking answers and guidance.Connect with Rebecca on Instagram @mirroredmystic and read more about her offerings on her website www.mirroredmystic.comI’ve had the privilege of having Rebecca hold space for me in readings, and I marveled at Rebecca’s ability to dial into the most important issue that I presented while also staying very present. I felt really seen and at the same time, deeply held. This podcast is hosted, produced, edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 22, 2022 • 1h 33min
8. The Fool in The Underworld with Mariola Rosario
In today’s episode, I’m joined by my friend, Mariola Rosario. Mariola and I both identify as seekers on our paths, and in this conversation, we explored the archetype of the underworld with beginners’ mind through the lens of The Fool, the questioner. We discussed what the underworld is, how depictions of the underworld are dictate by the empire’s relationship to death, how Mariola’s experience growing up in Puerto Rico influence her view of the underworld, and some tips on how to navigate our own underworld experiences. We also discussed the question of “What if astrology is more than just a language?”Here's Mariola's bio: Mariola Rosario (she/her) is a witch, astrologer, teacher, artist and independent researcher from Borikén, the land known as Puerto Rico. She is currently living and experiencing our global collapse from the shores of Paris, France. Mariola loves collaborating with artists, intuitives, freaks, ghouls, old, new & curious souls, students, teachers, organizers, activists, ancestors, flowers, plants, animals, candles, tarot, planets and beyond. She has always found herself somewhere between the teacher-student axis and would like to continue to find alternative and more compassionate routes towards inclusive pedagogy and revolutionary, anti-extractive modes of learning and co-creating spaces of magical and material mutual aid. Mariola’s books are open for one-on-one astrology consultations in English and Spanish. Connect with Mariola on through her website mariolarosario.com and her Instagram @mariola_rosario. Some resources mentioned in this episode are: Antonio Machado's Caminante, no hay camino and Alice Sparkly Kat's Postcolonial Astrology. Also, Britten LaRue's offering The Magician's Table - where Mariola will be one of the 13th readers this coming Spring 2022.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 22min
7. Mary Schuch: Why Are We Obsessed with Cults?
In today’s episode, my guest in conversation and my partner in crime is Mary Schuch. As two survivors of religious trauma who are still #1 Fan of Spirit (TM), we explored Hierophant themes: cultish behaviors, why we engage in them, and how developing an awareness of power dynamics can lead us to new ways of being in teacher-student relationships. We also discussed Mary’s relationship to her inner teacher and how it’s shifted through being in voluntary learning spaces and committing to her own personal practices.Our conversation was fun, funny, wild, irreverent, and completely non-linear. Listening back, it feels brave to me - questions and ponderings were required and answers were optional. We spoke in metaphors and along the way, there were tons of laughters, detours, thinking on our feet, and, of course, cursing.Here's Mary's bio:Mary describes herself as someone who is committed to showing up for the experience of belonging in a human body.Informed by her upbringing as a homeschooled pastor's kid and the eighth of eleven siblings, Mary is reclaiming her right to exploration and education.She values meditative multidisciplinary living through her practices of writing, music, art, movement, breadmaking, astrology, and being outdoors. Through these avenues, Mary is joyfully emerging as an intuitive and comedic mystic.Mary has spent most of the last decade deep in thought in gardens, on a lobster boat, and more recently, an oyster farm. She is originally from the Chicago area and currently lives on an island in Maine.Connect with Mary on Instagram @maryschuch and book a reading with her. Mary always helps me gain new insights and perspectives, and she also makes me laugh - which is truly the best medicine. Mary also mentioned the book Writing the Mind Alive: The Proprioceptive Method for Finding Your Authentic Voice by Linda Trichter Metcalf, Tobin Simon.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 18, 2022 • 1h 19min
6. Natasha Levinger: Empowering Ourselves Through Energy Healing
In today’s episode, I had a conversation with Natasha Levinger, who’s an intuitive reader, inner child healing teacher, and energy healer. We discussed Natasha’s journey to finding this work, the difference between energy reading / energy healing and psychic work, the role of empowerment and imagination in her work; the relationship between creativity, perfectionism, and collaboration; and also some very nuanced discussions on love, light, and spiritual bypassing. It’s a conversation with lots of full-bellied laughs - and listening back I love how Natasha’s generous and kind energy really came through.CW: We discussed suicidal thoughts in this episode.Here’s Natasha's bio: Natasha grew up as a sensitive empath in a home where it was very challenging to be one. After she left home she became impassioned to know herself well enough to decipher what was her information or her feelings and what was coming from her family programming and trauma or other people. After years of self healing and education ranging from a B.A. in Human Development to a variety of disciplines of energy healing, she decided to make it her life’s work to help others.Using a mix of an energy reading and healing model that involves the chakra system and other modes of therapeutic models such as Inner Child Healing and Mindful Self Compassion, she has helped hundreds of people to heal past trauma. She also has a passion for animals and loves helping people connect and communicate to their animals with her help. Through her practice, Highest Light Healing, she looks forward to helping even more people through classes, sessions with her, guided meditations and more.Natasha lives in Asheville, NC with her husband, two children and (currently) 16 rescue animals!Connect with Natasha through her website, Instagram @highestlighthealing, her podcast with Tess Whitehurst Magic Monday, and her energy reports on MindBodyGreen. You can also book readings, join her courses, and resources like meditations and workbooks on her site.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 16, 2022 • 1h 35min
2. Is Astrology the Future Language? with Meteorite 2021 Class
In this very special episode, I'm joined by my fellow classmates from Meteorite 2021, an astrological embodiment container facilitated by Sabrina Monarch. We discussed the idea of astrology as a future language. We also discussed the idea of the spirit of language, our own personal experiences learning astrology, what it means to be human beings who interact with the vast possibilities of the astrological language, and the future of astrology within our communities.A special thank you to Verena Borell, Sabrina Monarch, Mirella Trimboli, Kelly Chalmers, Jenny Chu, A.S. Katoch (Rudy), Maddie Gaieski, Fabiola Calvo, and Nicole Elyse for contributing their incredible insights. Connect with them and check out their incredible offerings!Learn more about Meteorite 2022 Class here. Application is open until February 28, 2022.This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @nate_qi, my music, and click here to book an astrology reading with me. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.Here are timestamps for our discussion:[06:44] Jonathan on the concept of Future Language.[12:04] Verena on simultaneously learning astrology and English[17:00] Sabrina on language to describe something never named before, and the somatic experience of receiving that language; the contrast between daily language and astrology[20:20] Mirella on the experience of learning astrology alongside Italian; approaching languages through analytical means vs. intuitively allowing language to wash over you; the feeling component in language[27:34] Kelly on how archetypes infuse our consciousness; how astrology introduces us to dimensions not available in our education and work systems[30:50] Verena on the movement of the astrological nodal axis from Gemini - Sagittarius into Taurus - Scorpio.[33:48] Jenny on language and meaning-making; the slippery, ever-shifting nature of astrology challenging our notion of fixed-ness in our meaning-making.[36:44] Jonathan on channeling - how artists and corporate VPs are essentially channeling when they create something out of nothing; how to be a clear channel[38:42] Kelly on working with the chart to guide ourselves to find the appropriate setup for our specific channels[39:48] Sabrina on the relationship between Vesta and Hermes: the importance of discerning the fire we want to tend to in being a clear channel[42:04] Mirella on the connection between Mercury and Uranus[43:36] Verena on the Akashic records: the potential overwhelm and the need for discernment when working in the vast realm of information[47:14] Maddie on astrology as the lens with potential to evolve us and those around us[48:04] Jenny on the how language can get stuck, how astrology can be flattened; the need to be careful about creating a dogmatic framework using language that can be used to categorize people[49:40] Jonathan on moving away from completely merging the human and their birth chart in astrological readings[51:12] Fabiola on how astrology holds the spirit of connection and as the language of movement, connecting to dreams and more fluid ways of being in the world; astrology as the language that offers an alternative to pain associated with our daily language[53:22] Nicole on using language to disguise one’s self and to blend in; astrology as a language we can use for ourselves and our use only, to get to know ourselves.[56:04] Rudy on developing astrological fluency alongside the language of depth psychology; the Logos of astrological language.[1:03:56] Verena on the fear of speaking, the witch wound in relation to Capricorn, Gemini, and Scorpio; the power of astrology in helping liberate us from the fear of speaking out[1:08:24] Jonathan muses that perhaps astrology is more than a language, and how astrology itself has evolved over time. How do we revolutionize astrology? Is astrology more than a language?[1:09:40] Sabrina on bridging astrology with other disciplines.[1:11:26] Jenny on bridging decolonization work with studying the divine.[1:13:52] Kelly on the role of our throat’s vibration in creating our reality and how our colonized languages create a veil that prevents us from seeing this.[1:17:06] Verena on our collective move to a new timeline; the need for us to expand the astrological language as astrologers.[1:23:04] Sabrina on considering each archetype as sentient beings and cultivating non-extractive relationships with astrology[1:25:50] Kelly on working at an energetic level to bring us to deeper relationships with archetypes[1:27:36] Rudy on the etymology of oration; astrology as prayer, which goes beyond language.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.

Feb 16, 2022 • 1h 24min
5. Jenny Chu: The Spiral of Time
In this episode, Jenny Chu and I created a rich conversation on time that stretched beyond strict, societally-agreed definitions. We reached into relational, experiential exploration of how we can be with time, calling into question our perception of time, our sense of the spirit of time, our shared love for the work of the Italian physicist Carlo Rovelli, and how studying astrology has changed our relationship with time. Jenny has a truly brilliant mind and is a beautiful conversationalist so our discussion (spiralically) branched out in many different ways that feels very organic. In addition to the topic of time, we also explored the Buddhist idea of the Middle Path, the I-Ching and other forms of divination, and even how Evolutionary Astrology connects with Buddhism. All of these seemingly disparate topics are brought together in such a seamless way throughout this conversation. A little bit about our astrological birth charts - Jenny’s North Node in Gemini is in very close conjunction with my Moon in Gemini, and I think you’ll probably be able to hear it. This conversation feels lit up and connected with the energy of Gemini and Sagittarius in the best way possible. Here's Jenny's bio: Jenny M. Chu is a thinking artist and she's an older sister to a younger brother and raised by two immigrant parents by way of Saigon and Hong Kong. She has studied evolutionary astrology with Sabrina Monarch, embodied astrology with Renee Sills, and is currently in the Transits and Predictive Astrology Cohort led by Oak of Oak Astrology that centers decolonization and the BIPOC experience.Connect with Jenny through her Instagram account @AZN_Auntie_Astro. Jenny is currently offering 1-hour natal chart readings through AZN Auntie Astro. You can schedule with her directly at the Calendly link or you can reach her directly via Instagram at AZN_Auntie_Astro if you have any questions.Some resources that we mentioned: Carlo Rovelli's The Order of Time, Dali's The Persistence of Memory, and Richard Tarnas's Cosmos and Psyche.
If you've enjoyed and benefited from the podcast, I invite you to apply for private mentorship and coaching with me. This is an intensive container, designed to support you in refining your self-leadership skills, moving through important life thresholds with grace, and expanding your capacity for creative expansions.Try the incredible breathwork and meditation app Open for 30 days free using this special link. This podcast is hosted, produced, and edited by Jonathan Koe. Theme music is also composed by me! Connect with me through my newsletter, my Instagram @jonathankoeofficial, and my music. For podcast-related inquiries, email me at healingthespiritpodcast@gmail.com.