
Outside Ourselves
Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.
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Jan 9, 2024 • 52min
Reading the Bible in a Year with Chad Bird
In the first episode of 2024, Kelsi chats with 1517 Scholar in Residence, Chad Bird, about the benefits to reading the Bible in a Year, some helpful and guiltless ways to approach this goal and reading Scripture in general. For the second year in a row, Chad is leading people through reading the Bible in a Year according to the Blue Letter Bible Plan.
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Dec 19, 2023 • 57min
The Already, Now, and Not Yet of Advent with Freely Given
On today's episode, Kelsi chats with friends, Gretchen Ronnevik and Katie Koplin from the Freely Given Podcast, about the Advent season and how a fuller expansion into the three different arrivals or comings of Jesus changes how we understand and celebrate Advent.
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Dec 5, 2023 • 53min
Illustrating the Bible with Natasha Kennedy
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with illustrator Natasha Kennedy about her illustrations in the FatCat Children Series books (Lexham Press). Natasha talks about her process and the ongoing theological and artistic decisions that are necessary to bring the Bible to life.
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Nov 21, 2023 • 1h 6min
Marriage and Forgiveness with Harrison Scott Key
Kelsi interviews author Harrison Scott Key about his latest book, "How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told." The two discuss what daily forgiveness looks like in marriage - and other close relationships - and how honesty about our own flaws and failures is essential if we want others to be honest with us as well. Consider this an episode on all things concerning how to love your neighbor well!
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Nov 7, 2023 • 1h 6min
Gospel Clarity with Theocast
On this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi is joined by Jon and Justin of @THEOCAST to talk about all things having to do with gospel clarity. If you haven't listened to the Theocast, consider this your introduction.
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Oct 24, 2023 • 52min
C.S. Lewis and the Chronicles of Narnia with Michael Ward
Dr. Michael Ward is an English literary critic and theologian. He works at the University of Oxford where he is a member of the Faculty of Theology and Religion. He is the author of the award-winning Planet Narnia: The Seven Heavens in the Imagination of C.S. Lewis.
He joins Kelsi to discuss the theory behind Planet Narnia which asserts that C.S. Lewis intentionally tied each of his seven Chronicles directly to one of the seven planets: the sun, the moon, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, Mercury, and Mars. This theory makes Lewis' work within the Chronicles not only much more intentional and intricate, but also has theological implications for how the author would have wanted readers to interact with his famous children's series.
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Oct 10, 2023 • 1h 7min
Law, Gospel, and the Parables with Daniel Emery Price
Kelsi and Daniel Emery Price talk about the function and telos of the law and the gospel before jumping into Dan’s book, Scandalous Stories: A Sort of Commentary on the Parables, and their discussion on what can go wrong when reading the parables and the reason Jesus uses them in the first place. Daniel Emery Price is the 1517 Operations Executive. He is also an author, church and conference speaker, and co-host of the podcasts 40 Minutes in the Old Testament and 30 Minutes in the New Testament. Daniel has served as a church planter, pastor and worship leader and currently lives in Northwest Arkansas, with his wife and two daughters.
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Sep 26, 2023 • 52min
Vocation and Evangelism with Loso
Loso is a hip-hop recording artist and one of the world's top battle rappers. He chats with Kelsi about what it looks like to be a Christian within the world of battle rap, the importance of authentic relationships when it comes to evangelism, and how vocation doesn't always include having a five year plan for your life.
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Sep 12, 2023 • 58min
The Doctrine of Creation with Lydia Jaeger
Dr. Lydia Jaeger discusses her book, Ordinary Splendor, with Kelsi and the implications of the doctrine of creation for the Christian's life. She answers Kelsi's questions about why a Biblical doctrine of creation is helpful and necessary for understanding who God is and what good gifts he gives us.
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Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 6min
Mental Illness and the Gospel with John Bryant
This week’s episode is a conversation between author John Bryant and Kelsi about John’s new book (out in September), A Quiet Mind to Suffer With: Mental Illness, Trauma, and the Death of Christ. John writes about what Christ’s suffering on the cross means for his own suffering with obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). He talks to Kelsi about why he decided to write the book and how healing and recovery don’t always look like we would like and yet how we can rely on Christ’s mercy to be present for us all the same.
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