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Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.
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Jan 14, 2025 • 44min
Good News for Church Burnouts
This week we are playing Kelsi's talk from October's 1517 HWSS conference.
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Dec 31, 2024 • 53min
Faith and Evangelism in a Secular World with Magnus Persson
In the final Outside Ourselves episode of 2024, Kelsi interviews Pastor Magnus Persson about his personal journey from successful charismatic pastor to a minister in the Swedish Evangelical Lutheran Church. Magnus talks about what it's like pastoring in the most secular country in the world as a part of the state church and what he thinks evangelism looks like for the church moving forward.
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Dec 10, 2024 • 1h 13min
A Novel of the Reformation with Amy Mantravadi
In this episode, Kelsi talks with author, Amy Mantravadi, about her new historical novel Broken Bonds: A Novel of the Reformation, released by 1517 Publishing last month. Amy talks about her journey to Reformation theology and history, and why she decided to write a novel detailing the feud between Erasmus and Martin Luther which began in 1524.
Amy Mantravadi lives in Dayton, Ohio with her husband, Jai, and their son, Thomas. She holds a B.A. in biblical literature and political science from Taylor University and received her M.A. in international security from King's College London. In addition to writing essays on theological topics, she also writes historical fiction and has two novels about the Reformation forthcoming. She also previously hosted the (A)Millennial podcast.
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Nov 26, 2024 • 55min
Christian Experience with Simeon Zahl
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi talks with Theologian Simeon Zahl about his book, The Holy Spirit and Christian Experience. Simeon argues there is a long history of Christian experience, particularly as it's defined by human emotion, not only throughout Christian history but also within the works of the Martin Luther and Philip Melanchthon. He has worked to reconcile liturgical traditions with this history in order to try and reclaim an emphasis on Christian experience that deepens and broadens our understanding of the faith.
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Nov 13, 2024 • 43min
The Doctrine of Election with Flame: Live from HWSS
This is a recording of the live Outside Ourselves interview with Flame at this year's HWSS conference. In this conversation, Kelsi asks Flame about how his understanding of the doctrine of election has changed.
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Oct 29, 2024 • 50min
How Would Luther Vote? with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco
This week, Kelsi finishes her two-part conversation with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco with a look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdoms Doctrine, and especially the lefthanded or earthly realm. What did Luther think about the role of government in his day and age? Like many things with Luther, it's complicated. The show wraps up with some comparison between Augustine and Luther.
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Oct 22, 2024 • 56min
How Would Augustine Vote? with Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman
In today's episode, Kelsi is joined by 1517's Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman to discuss the way in which politics and government is written about in the New Testament as well as St. Augustine's political theory. This is part 1 of a two-part conversation. The next episode will take a closer look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdom's doctrine.
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Oct 1, 2024 • 47min
The Joy of the Trinity with Tara-Leigh Cobble
Kelsi chats with author, Tara-Leigh Cobble, about her love of Scripture as well as her book, the Joy of the Trinity.
Tara-Leigh Cobble's zeal for Biblical literacy is at the heart of everything she creates. Her goal is to help people read, understand, and love Scripture. Her daily podcast, "The Bible Recap,” guides listeners through a chronological 1-Year Bible reading plan. The podcast has over 330 million downloads and reached #1 on the Apple Podcast Charts in All Categories. She created and leads D-Group International, which has grown into an international network of 300+ weekly Bible studies that meet in homes, churches, and online. She also writes and hosts a daily radio show called "The God Shot" and leads trips to Israel to study the Bible on site. Her book The Bible Recap (Baker / Bethany House) and Bible study He’s Where the Joy Is (Lifeway) are outlets for understanding Scripture as a whole and the Trinity in particular. She lives in Dallas, TX, where she has no pets, children, or anything that might die if she forgets to feed it.
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Sep 17, 2024 • 57min
Junk Drawer Jesus with Matt Popovits
Kelsi talks with Pastor Matt Popovits about his forthcoming book, Junk Drawer Jesus: Discarding Your Spiritual Clutter and Rediscovering the Supremacy of Grace. Matt details some of the most common misconceptions people tend to have about who God is (and what that means about them), including the ways we measure our spirituality, how we try and find our identity in our work, and that we falsely assume that happiness should be our ultimate aim in life.
Matt Popovits currently serves as Lead Pastor of St. Mark Houston, in Houston, Texas. Matt is a graduate of both Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, MO and of the University of Michigan-Flint department of Theatre and Dance. He and his high school sweetheart, Lisa, have two children: Ava Elise and Jack Matthew.
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Never Enough: When Achievement Culture Becomes Toxic-and What We Can Do About It by Jennifer Breheny Wallace

Sep 3, 2024 • 1h 6min
Psychedelics and Jesus with Ashley Lande
In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with author and writer, Ashley Lande about her forthcoming book, The Thing that Would Make Everything Okay Forever. In the book and in this conversation, Ashley talks about how she found Jesus Christ after years of using psychedelics.
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