The Charlene Gisele Show

Charlène Gisèle
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Oct 29, 2025 • 1h 6min

Reigniting Creativity in Business and Life with Duncan Bruce

In this creative disruption episode, I sit down with Duncan Bruce, brand innovation expert who's worked with hundreds of the world's most iconic brands, to expose why corporate environments are killing creativity and how releasing intuition can transform burnt out teams into passionate innovators.From revealing why the best lawyers and bankers are actually highly creative people to explaining how a simple medicine walk can reboot jaded thinking, Duncan destroys the myths around creativity and shows you how co-creative experiences can turn skeptical teams into evangelists for change.Whether you're a burnt out professional who thinks creativity isn't for you, a team leader watching your people lose their spark, or a corporate executive who cares about the bottom line more than touchy-feely workshops, this conversation will revolutionize how you think about innovation and show you that creativity isn't a talent you're born with but a muscle you can train.What we cover:The creativity myth: why "I'm not creative" is the biggest lie we tell ourselvesLawyers and bankers as creatives: how the best professionals are highly creative thinkersPermission and intuition: releasing the dam of possibility in corporate environmentsThe school music trauma: how childhood criticism kills lifelong creative confidenceHappy accidents and listening: Native American wisdom for noticing what's always thereLocation matters: why disconnection from the office unlocks creative breakthroughsThe medicine walk technique: one hour that changes how you see the world foreverCo-creation power: why creating together beats individual creativity every timeSurrealist principles: random connections and disruption as innovation toolsHierarchy breakdown: how non-hierarchical events release unexpected brillianceBurnout and creativity: why creativity is the first thing to go under stressBottom line impact: proof that creative disruption drives millions in revenueDuncan doesn't just run workshops. He proves that with the right environment, permission structure, and experiential techniques, even the most cynical corporate teams can reconnect with their innate creativity and transform both culture and profitability.Timestamps:03:18 – Creativity defined: the release of intuition and flow05:09 – Why lawyers and bankers are actually highly creative people12:04 – How corporate roles constrain us and kill creativity from childhood17:19 – Happy accidents: the Polaroid camera story and learning to listen26:10 – Location disruption: why workshops must happen outside the office34:20 – The medicine walk: Native American wisdom in under an hour40:24 – Co-creative art: collaborative murals and permission to interfere51:02 – Diagnosing lack of creativity: burnout, attrition, and gray clouds54:25 – Anxiety and creativity cannot coexist: the neuroscience of creative flow58:27 – Breaking hierarchy: the dead important speech that changes everything01:01:05 – Debunking "I'm not creative": everyone can sing in harmonyResources:The Dream Cafe book on Amazon: https://amazon.com/dream-cafeDuncan Bruce on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/duncanbruceThe Brand Conspiracy📲 Connect with Me:🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 12min

The Pill, Pregnancy and Periods: What Your Doctor Never Told You with Lisa Hendrickson-Jack

In this fertility awakening episode, I sit down with Lisa Hendrickson-Jack, fertility awareness educator and author of Real Food for Fertility, to expose why we've been lied to about our menstrual cycles and how the birth control pill might be sabotaging your future fertility without anyone telling you.From revealing why missing periods during burnout isn't a "blessing" but a massive red flag to explaining how charting your cycle can prevent years of conception heartbreak, Lisa destroys the myths around female fertility and shows you how to reclaim power over your reproductive health.Whether you're a burnt out professional whose period vanished, a woman planning to conceive in the next year who's still on the pill, or someone who thinks they can get pregnant any day of the month, this conversation will revolutionize how you understand your body and show you that fertility awareness is the ultimate form of female empowerment.What we cover:✔️ The menstrual cycle as vital sign: why your period reveals more than blood pressure✔️ Burnout and amenorrhea: when your body stops menstruating under stress✔️ The pill rebound reality: why it takes 9 to 12 cycles for your body to normalize✔️ Time to pregnancy truth bomb: 4 months with condoms vs 8 months post pill✔️ Charting mastery: tracking temperature, cervical fluid, and ovulation windows✔️ Timing vs frequency debate: why once during peak fertility beats daily sex✔️ The 25% conception reality: why healthy couples take 4 cycles on average✔️ Male fertility matters: sperm quality and the hidden liver connection✔️ Organ meat revelation: nature's multivitamin for egg and sperm health✔️ Vitamin A breakthrough: the on off switch for sperm production✔️ Preconception nutrition: why both partners need to eat for fertilityLisa doesn't just teach cycle tracking. She proves that with proper fertility awareness and ancestral nutrition wisdom, women can take control of their reproductive timeline while understanding what their bodies are actually telling them every single month.Timestamps:04:24 – The burnout period loss: why missing menstruation isn't convenient10:22 – Birth control rebound: the 9 to 12 cycle normalization timeline18:05 – Time to pregnancy: 4 months with condoms vs 8 months post pill26:10 – Charting basics: understanding your fertile window and peak fertility39:47 – Period tracker apps vs real charting: why apps get ovulation wrong44:30 – Timing vs frequency: the research on sex every day vs targeted approach56:26 – Male fertility truth: why his sperm matters just as much as your eggs59:38 – Organ meat magic: liver as nature's fertility multivitamin01:01:04 – Vitamin A revelation: the nutrient that controls sperm productionResources:Real Food for Fertility book: https://realfoodforfertility.com/ (first chapter free)Fertility Friday Podcast - https://www.fertilityfriday.com/category/fertility-friday-podcast/ The Fifth Vital Sign book by Lisa Hendrickson-Jack - https://thefifthvitalsignbook.com/ Egg Quality resource for practitioners: https://fertilityfriday.com/eggquality📲 Connect with Me:🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 2min

Will AI replace Lawyers? The World’s First AI Law Firm with Philip Young

In this legal innovation episode, I sit down with Philip Young, founder of the world's first SRA regulated AI law firm, Garfield, to expose why traditional legal services are failing ordinary people and how artificial intelligence might finally deliver access to justice for small claims that lawyers have abandoned.From explaining why their firm is an end-to-end solution that goes far beyond a simple chatbot to discussing the delicate balance of human oversight and AI efficiency, Philip offers a rare look into the future of legal services. He debunks common misconceptions about AI hallucinations and argues that, contrary to popular belief, AI will lead to more lawyers, not fewer.Whether you're a solicitor worried about being replaced by technology, a small business owner owed money you can't afford to chase, or a legal professional curious about the future of practice, this conversation will revolutionize how you think about law and show you that responsible AI implementation might create more jobs, not fewer.What we cover:The personal story that inspired the creation of the AI law firm.Why the firm is not a physical office but a remote team built for a new era.The client journey: from digital onboarding to the human-in-the-loop review process.The critical difference between using a regulated AI firm and a public tool like ChatGPT.Safeguarding against AI hallucinations with a hybrid "expert system" approach.Why small debt claims are the ideal starting point for an AI law firm.The surprising second-order effects of AI, including creating more jobs.Philip’s vision for the future of the legal profession and the need for more emotional intelligence and tech training for lawyers.James doesn't just automate legal processes. He proves that with proper regulation, architectural safeguards, and responsible oversight, AI can democratize access to justice while maintaining the highest professional standards.Timestamps:02:42 – The brother in law debt problem that started everything15:51 – Human lawyer oversight: when Philip reviews documents and when he doesn't19:11 – Does AI mean fewer lawyers? The counterintuitive answer25:29 – What is legal advice? The philosophical question AI forces us to answer34:38 – Hallucination safeguards: expert systems controlling probabilistic LLMs41:08 – Why Garfield is more human than human lawyers50:33 – Responsibility and accountability: the two key words for legal AIResources:Garfield AI Law Firm: https://garfield.lawConnect with Philip: LinkedIn📲 Connect with Me:🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Oct 8, 2025 • 1h 22min

Celebrity Chef James Barry reveals why your “healthy” diet is making you sick and how to eat well.

In this ancestral nutrition episode, I sit down with James Barry — celebrity chef turned organ meat evangelist who's cooked for Tom Cruise, Gerard Butler, and Barbara Streisand — to expose why your "clean eating" obsession is keeping you inflamed, exhausted, and nutritionally bankrupt.From revealing how he helped actresses shed baby weight without diets to explaining why your body will never lie to you about what it needs, James destroys the myths around modern nutrition and shows you how to reclaim your health through the foods your ancestors thrived on.Whether you're a burnt-out professional living on delivery apps and protein bars, a health-conscious parent confused by conflicting nutrition advice, or someone who thinks organ meats are "too extreme," this conversation will revolutionize how you think about food and show you that real health comes from embracing what nature intended.What we cover:✔️ The celebrity chef origin story: cooking for Tom Cruise and the coconut oil crispy chicken✔️ Why ultra-processed foods are destroying your body's communication system✔️ The meal planning revolution: treating your health plan like your business plan✔️ Real food vs. shelf-stable food: why grocery stores prioritize profits over nutrition✔️ The burnout-to-health pipeline: how overwork leads to weight gain and lost creativity✔️ Mindful eating manifesto: why screens are sabotaging your digestion✔️ The two-week palate reset: recalibrating your taste buds from sweet and salty✔️ Organ meat initiation: starting with chicken hearts and grated frozen liver✔️ The Pluck seasoning breakthrough: freeze-dried organs as nature's multivitamin✔️ Brain food revelation: why lamb's brains taste like melted butter (and boost concentration)✔️ The neuro-lingo response: letting your body tell you what it needsJames doesn't just cook healthy food. He proves that with ancestral wisdom and real ingredients, you can reclaim the vitality that modern processed diets have stolen from you.Timestamps:03:35 – The Tom Cruise confusion: when "chef" means "boss" in German06:25 – Why everything from scratch made the weight melt off actresses13:02 – The meal planning secret: matching recipes to your actual schedule32:26 – French childhood vs. American burnout: the disconnect from real food42:14 – Organ meat hierarchy: which organs taste like regular meat (and which don't)51:44 – The chicken heart gateway: your entry point to ancestral eating01:01:20 – Daily organ consumption: micro-dosing nature's multivitamin01:08:36 – Why your body never lies about what it needsResources:Pluck Seasoning website: https://eatpluck.comChef James Barry on Instagram: https://instagram.com/chefjamesbarryPluck on Instagram: https://instagram.com/eatpluckPluck on Amazon: https://amazon.com/pluckEvery Day Ancestral Podcast with James Barry: Discount code for Pluck: CHARLENE 📲 Connect with Me:🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Oct 1, 2025 • 1h 22min

How to Write a Bestseller Without Relying on Amazon, with David Viergutz

Tired, wired, or both? Take a free burnout self-check: https://4db9-coach.systeme.io/6ad5c8b6In this jaw-dropping episode for every aspiring author, I sit down with author and entrepreneur David Viergutz, who went from being a full-time police officer donating blood plasma to pay for book covers to building a multi-million-dollar publishing empire.From revealing the heartbreaking moment an English teacher crushed his childhood dream of being a writer to explaining how he sold his product for $200,000 before it was even written, David pulls back the curtain on the harsh realities of the publishing world. He challenges the "gatekeepers" and exposes the truth about Amazon, proving that success lies in a business mindset, not just a good story.Whether you're an attorney afraid to publish a book, a corporate professional editing a manuscript for years, or an aspiring author told you need a publisher, this conversation will revolutionize how you think about writing and success and show you there's a different way to build your legacy.✔️ The origin story: from childhood writer to police officer and back again✔️ The "you have to be born with talent" lie that stole 20 years of his life✔️ Why most self-publishing advice is useless platitudes✔️ The truth about the Amazon algorithm and why it’s not your friend✔️ Why "people will pay anything to feel something"✔️ How to get $200,000 in pre-sales with just an idea✔️ The psychological toll of chasing perfection✔️ The "good enough" book strategy and why it beats a "perfect" one✔️ How to build a successful publishing business from scratch✔️ The myth of the novelist: why abandoning vanity leads to millions✔️ The future of publishing: a million letters a month and why you should careDavid isn't just a writer; he's an entrepreneur who proves that success is about solving problems and creating an emotional experience, not just writing a good book.03:35 – Fourth grade crushing defeat: "you have to be born with talent"11:28 – Blood plasma donations: the literal sacrifice for book covers32:50 – The feeling economy: why people pay thousands for Taylor Swift35:13 – Scare Mail genesis: solving the "nothing good in the mailbox" problem42:12 – Amazon relationship reality: why the algorithm will never love you52:08 – The perfectionist manuscript trap: when "good enough" beats “perfect”David Viergutz's horror novels and Scare MailEpistolary.com - story letter publishing expansionNot Okay - David's recommended starting book🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/What we cover:Timestamps:Resources:📲 Connect with Me:
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Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 8min

The Products You Use Daily Could be Making You Sick with Andrea Dahr

⚠️ Feeling Drained Lately? Take this free burnout test and see how close you are to the edge: https://4db9-coach.systeme.io/6ad5c8b6In this toxic load revelation episode, I sit down with Andrea Dahr to expose the hidden chemicals lurking in your daily routine and why your favorite "clean" products might be sabotaging your health more than you realize.From revealing how much lipstick you actually eat in a lifetime to explaining why that "eco-friendly" yoga wear is just recycled plastic poison, Andrea drops serious truth bombs about the unregulated beauty and household product industry that's been lying to us for decades.Whether you're struggling with hormonal imbalances, fertility issues, chronic fatigue, or just want to stop poisoning yourself with "fragrance" (spoiler: it's a chemical cocktail), this conversation will revolutionize how you shop and show you that going non-toxic doesn't mean sacrificing everything you love.What we cover: ✔️ The lipstick revelation: how much toxic chemicals high-achievers actually consume ✔️ Fragrance fraud: why "fragrance" is a black box of hundreds of unknown chemicals ✔️ The baby powder scandal: talc, asbestos, and decades of corporate cover-ups ✔️ Room-by-room toxic purge: bathroom, kitchen, and bedroom danger zones ✔️ Deodorant disasters: why aluminum antiperspirants are linked to breast cancer ✔️ Sunscreen secrets: chemical vs. mineral and what the FDA actually recommends ✔️ Non-stick nightmare: forever chemicals in your cookware and drinking water ✔️ The polyester problem: why synthetic clothing is suffocating your skin ✔️ Makeup removal magic: coconut oil vs. harsh chemical removers ✔️ Pregnancy protection: safe switches for expecting mothers ✔️ Burnout connection: why exhausted people gravitate toward the most toxic products ✔️ Shopping strategies: how to read labels and avoid greenwashing scamsAndrea doesn't just scare you about toxins — she provides practical, budget-friendly switches you can make one product at a time without overwhelming your life or wallet.Timestamps: 00:00 – The pregnancy wake-up call that changed everything 05:04 – Lipstick confessions and the toxic truth about "long-lasting" formulas 20:21 – Bathroom detox: fragrance, preservatives, and hormone disruptors 31:49 – Nail polish nightmares and natural alternatives that actually work 37:32 – Intimate products: the toxic truth about lubes and stretch mark creams 41:37 – Kitchen catastrophes: non-stick cookware and plastic storage dangers 47:17 – Bedroom and wardrobe: why your clothes are poisoning your skin 58:19 – The burnout-toxic connection: decision fatigue and pretty packaging Resources:Andrea's website and newsletter for weekly non-toxic switchesTiny Health for toxic load testingRecommended brands: Force of Nature, Sienna Byron Bay, Mate the Label📲 Connect with Me: 🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Sep 17, 2025 • 59min

How to Build Authority on LinkedIn Withou t Being Boring

In this LinkedIn mastery episode, I sit down with Helen Pamely and Holly Cope — the LinkedIn Academy duo who've cracked the code on professional networking without the soul-crushing corporate fakeness — to expose why your LinkedIn strategy is failing and how to turn boring announcements into business-building connections.From revealing why "I'm delighted to announce" posts are career suicide to explaining the psychology behind viral thought leadership content, Helen and Holly demolish the myths around professional social media and show you how to network authentically at scale.Whether you're a partner afraid to lift your head above the parapet, a senior associate drowning in "delighted to announce" posts, or a professional who thinks LinkedIn is just for Gen Z, this conversation will revolutionize how you show up online and turn your digital presence into your most powerful business development tool.What we cover: ✔️ The LinkedIn transformation: from CV platform to networking on steroids ✔️ Why your boring announcements are killing your engagement ✔️ The storytelling revolution: how to make legal updates actually interesting ✔️ Cold DM disasters: why your sales pitches are backfiring spectacularly ✔️ Thought leadership vs. news reporting: adding your expert opinion ✔️ The engagement strategy: who to connect with and why it matters ✔️ Personal vs. professional boundaries: wedding photos, holiday pics, and authenticity ✔️ The commenting goldmine: why three daily comments beat monthly posts ✔️ Profile optimization secrets that actually get you noticed ✔️ Building your 24/7 networking room with strategic connections ✔️ The private vs. personal distinction: what to share and what to keepHelen and Holly don't just teach LinkedIn tactics — they reveal how authentic professional networking can replace traditional business development and why showing up as your real self is the ultimate competitive advantage.Timestamps:00:02 – From 400 connections to 40,000 followers: Helen's LinkedIn transformation07:34 – Why senior partners are making huge LinkedIn mistakes12:11 – The storytelling secret that changed everything17:22 – LinkedIn strategy 101: where to start when your profile is dusty25:48 – Engagement tactics: who to follow and how to connect meaningfully31:27 – Thought leadership mastery: opinions vs. news reporting36:17 – Personal boundaries: holiday photos, weddings, and professional authenticity49:49 – Three things to stop doing on LinkedIn immediately52:11 – Three things to start doing today for LinkedIn successResources:Helen Pamely and Holly Cope on LinkedInLinkedIn Academy course and resourcesFree LinkedIn starter pack and frameworksNewsletter subscription for ongoing LinkedIn tips📲 Connect with Me: 🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Sep 10, 2025 • 59min

The Gene Mutation 90% of Us Have (But Doctors Don't Test For) with Risa Groux

⚠️ Tired, wired, or both? Take a free burnout self-check: https://4db9-coach.systeme.io/6ad5c8b6In this fertility-meets-thyroid revelation episode, I sit down with Risa Groux — functional nutritionist and thyroid specialist — to expose why your "underachieving" thyroid might actually be screaming for help and how the most common gene mutation (that 90% of us have) could be sabotaging your health.From revealing how she reversed Hashimoto's with a shocking dental discovery to explaining why your doctor's thyroid prescription might be making you worse, Risa drops serious truth bombs about root causes that conventional medicine completely ignores.Whether you're struggling with unexplained weight gain, recurring miscarriages, chronic fatigue, or have been told your thyroid is "fine" despite feeling terrible, this conversation will revolutionize how you approach thyroid health and show you there's hope beyond synthetic medications.What we cover: ✔️ The MTHFR revelation: why 90% of us can't process B vitamins properly ✔️ Miscarriage mysteries: the nutrient deficiencies hiding behind pregnancy loss ✔️ Why folic acid (in most prenatals) might actually increase cancer risk ✔️ The T4-only medication scandal: why Synthroid fails most people ✔️ Hashimoto's reversal: how a 23-year-old dental infection was the missing piece ✔️ Heavy metal poisoning from "healthy" tuna consumption ✔️ Endocrine disruptor epidemic: from BPA cans to golf course chemicals ✔️ Why your swimming routine might be destroying your thyroid ✔️ The exercise paradox: why marathon training can wreck thyroid function ✔️ Natural vs. synthetic hormones: the desiccated thyroid controversy ✔️ Detox done right: liver support for conception and beyondRisa doesn't just treat symptoms — she proves that with proper testing and root cause investigation, even "permanent" thyroid conditions can be reversed naturally.Timestamps: 00:01 – The "underachieving" thyroid diagnosis that changed everything 04:20 – MTHFR gene mutation: why 90% of us need methylated B vitamins 10:10 – Miscarriage prevention: the nutrient deficiencies doctors miss 17:46 – Hashimoto's discovery: when your body attacks your thyroid 26:10 – The dental connection: 23-year-old infection as autoimmune trigger 31:28 – Synthetic vs. natural thyroid hormones: why desiccated works better 37:17 – High-achiever thyroid burnout: stress and the endocrine system 42:14 – Toxic load reality check: golf courses, pools, and hidden chemicals 47:00 – Detox protocols: liver support for fertility and thyroid health 53:21 – Exercise and thyroid: why more isn't always betterResources:Risa Groux Nutrition: risagrouxnutrition.comMTHFR gene testing informationMethylated B vitamin supplements (look for methylfolate and methylcobalamin)Functional thyroid testing including Free T3, T3 uptake, and antibodies📲 Connect with Me: 🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Sep 3, 2025 • 53min

Navigating Pressure and Performance on the Partnership Track with Ed Crosse

⚠️ Tired, wired, or both? Take a free burnout self-check: https://4db9-coach.systeme.io/6ad5c8b6In this career-defining episode, I sit down with Ed Crosse — disputes partner at Simmons & Simmons and mental health advocate — to explore how the legal profession is finally breaking its silence around wellbeing and why vulnerability has become the ultimate leadership strength.From revealing his own health crisis and panic attacks on the motorway to explaining why sending that Friday night email destroys more than just weekends, Ed shares raw insights about surviving and thriving in BigLaw without sacrificing your sanity.Whether you're a law student picking up dangerous habits, an NQ drowning in conflicting deadlines, or a senior associate on the partnership track, this conversation will transform how you approach legal practice and show you it's possible to be both brilliant and human.What we cover:✔️ The cultural shift: from "client first, always" to sustainable legal practice✔️ Why the best lawyers often don't make partner on the first try✔️ The partnership transition crisis: when networking becomes more important than billing✔️ Generational workplace tensions: are younger lawyers less resilient or more honest?✔️ The hemochromatosis revelation: how undiagnosed health issues masked as work stress✔️ Why going viral on LinkedIn about mental health didn't hurt his career✔️ The Friday night email epidemic and how it serves no one✔️ Partnership track survival: managing conflicting deadlines and over-pleasing tendencies✔️ Personal branding for lawyers: why speaking engagements generate million-dollar cases✔️ The Middle East legal migration and what it means for the industry✔️ Five practical wellness hacks that actually work in legal practiceEd doesn't just advocate for wellbeing — he proves that showing vulnerability as a senior partner creates stronger teams, better client relationships, and sustainable success.👇 Ready to break free from burnout and toxic work culture? Join my signature course: https://charlenegisele.com/burnout-courseTimestamps:00:01 – Why lawyer wellbeing isn't fluffy sentiment — it's business critical04:17 – The cultural transformation: from utilization obsession to human-centered practice09:27 – The health crisis wake-up call: panic attacks and treatment reality15:22 – Breaking the stigma: going public about mental health as a senior partner21:15 – Generational workplace tensions: resilience vs. realistic expectations25:09 – NQ survival guide: managing workload without burning out30:40 – Partnership track anxiety: navigating the most stressful career transition36:08 – Business development reality: why that cocktail matters more than billing41:04 – The Middle East legal migration: opportunities and cultural shifts43:37 – Five practical wellness hacks for sustainable legal careersResources:Ed Crosse on LinkedIn for mental health advocacy contentBook recommendations: "The Anxious Generation" and "The Stress Free Solution"Law Care - charity for legal profession mental health support📲 Connect with Me:🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/
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Aug 27, 2025 • 1h 9min

Why Healthy Professionals Make More Money with Jon Sabes

⚠️ Tired, wired, or both? Take a free burnout self-check: https://4db9-coach.systeme.io/6ad5c8b6In this wealth-meets-wellness episode, I sit down with Jon Sabas — entrepreneur, author of "Healthy Wealthy Longevity," and longevity advocate — to tackle the elephant in the room we've somehow avoided for 90 episodes: money and why high-earners are still stressed about finances.From exposing why financial literacy doesn't automatically come with high income to revealing how health became his ultimate competitive advantage, Jon drops serious truth bombs about building sustainable wealth while actually enjoying your life for the long haul.Whether you're a high-performer throwing money at problems, stressed about cash flow despite a great salary, or wondering how to balance career ambition with actually living, this conversation will transform how you think about true wealth and longevity.What we cover: ✔️ The high-earner paradox: why smart people make terrible money decisions ✔️ Financial literacy reality check: do you know your personal net worth right now? ✔️ Why "throwing money at problems" creates more problems ✔️ The Blue Zones controversy: what's real vs. what's storytelling (and why it matters) ✔️ How health became Jon's ultimate business competitive advantage ✔️ Environment design: making healthy choices the default choice ✔️ The retirement fallacy: why 65 is the new 45 and planning for 50 more years ✔️ Type-A health obsession: when biohacking becomes another addiction ✔️ The 4 AM advantage: building sustainable high-performance rhythms ✔️ Why your emergency email at 2 AM probably isn't saving lives ✔️ Gadget-free zones: finding balance between tracking and feelingJon doesn't just preach wealth-building — he reveals how true prosperity combines financial success with physical vitality and why the wealthiest life is one lived fully for as long as possible.Timestamps: 00:00 – Breaking the money taboo: 90 episodes in and we finally go there 05:02 – High-earner financial stress: why smart people make dumb money moves 11:08 – Financial literacy test: do you know your net worth right now? 18:23 – The root cause revelation: why throwing money at problems fails 26:02 – Health as competitive advantage: how fitness transformed his career 31:59 – Blue Zones breakdown: controversy, credibility, and what really matters 40:15 – Environment design: making healthy choices effortless 46:56 – Type-A health obsession: when tracking becomes toxic 53:52 – Marathon lessons: balancing obsession with relationships 58:56 – The 4 AM formula: sustainable high-performance rhythms 01:02:08 – Retirement fallacy: planning for 108 years oldResources:Jon's book: "Healthy Wealthy Longevity: The Good Things in Life for as Long as Possible"Website: johnsabas.comFollow Jon on social media: @johnsabasLongevity Financial Partners: Jon's latest venture📲 Connect with Me: 🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charl%C3%A8ne-gis%C3%A8le-bourliout/

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