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Resources Radio is a weekly podcast by Resources for the Future. Each week we talk to leading experts about climate change, electricity, ecosystems, and more, making the latest research accessible to everyone.
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Feb 13, 2023 • 31min
Environmental Justice and the Cumulative Impacts of Pollution, with Ana Baptista
In this week’s episode, host Margaret Walls talks with Ana Baptista, an associate professor at the New School in New York City and codirector of its Tishman Environment and Design Center. Baptista discusses the cumulative impacts of pollution on environmental justice communities; the sources of pollution in these communities; and the groundbreaking legislation and data tools that are being employed by state governments, researchers, and environmental justice groups to mitigate cumulative impacts in overburdened communities.
References and recommendations:
“Understanding the Evolution of Cumulative Impacts: Definitions and Policies in the U.S.” by Ana Isabel Baptista, Adrienne Perovich, Maria Fernanda Pulido-Velosa, Enrique Valencia, Marisa Valdez, and Jennifer Ventrella; https://www.tishmancenter.org/blog/new-research-understanding-the-evolution-of-cumulative-impacts-definitions-and-policies-in-the-us
Articles by Rachel Morello-Frosch; https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=lSdMXgQAAAAJ&hl=en
“Toxic Communities” by Dorceta Taylor; https://nyupress.org/9781479861781/toxic-communities/
“The Quest for Environmental Justice” by Robert D. Bullard and Maxine Waters; https://www.counterpointpress.com/books/the-quest-for-environmental-justice/

Feb 6, 2023 • 33min
Hydrogen Fuel Technology, Policy, and Environmental Risks, with Aaron Bergman and Alan Krupnick
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Aaron Bergman and Alan Krupnick—both scholars at Resources for the Future—about the technology and policy landscape of hydrogen fuel. Bergman and Krupnick discuss methods of hydrogen fuel production, the raft of new federal policies that incentivize the production of low-emissions hydrogen and build up the regional marketplaces known as “hydrogen hubs,” why some communities oppose hydrogen development, and how hydrogen can contribute to global warming.
References and recommendations:
“The Opposite of Butterfly Hunting” by Evanna Lynch; https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/677563/the-opposite-of-butterfly-hunting-by-evanna-lynch/
“Clue” movie; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clue_(film)
“Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery” movie; https://www.netflix.com/title/81458416

Jan 29, 2023 • 32min
New York’s Scoping Plan for Climate Action, with Maureen Leddy
In this week’s episode, host Kristin Hayes talks with Maureen Leddy, who serves as director of the Office of Climate Change at the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. Leddy discusses the state’s recently approved Scoping Plan, which proposes strategies for meeting the state’s emissions-reduction goals that are required by the Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act of 2019. Leddy reviews how the plan was developed, the community engagement involved in the development process, and specific emissions-reduction strategies that are outlined in the Scoping Plan.
References and recommendations:
“New York State Climate Action Council Scoping Plan” from the New York State Climate Action Council; https://climate.ny.gov/ScopingPlan
“Estimating the Value of Carbon: Two Approaches” by Resources for the Future and New York State Energy Research and Development Authority; https://www.rff.org/publications/reports/estimating-the-value-of-carbon-two-approaches/
“The Energy Gang” podcast; https://www.woodmac.com/market-insights/types/podcasts/the-energy-gang/

Jan 23, 2023 • 34min
Measuring Scholarly Diversity in Environmental Economics, with Neha Khanna and Nick Kuminoff
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with researchers Neha Khanna and Nick Kuminoff about the diversity of scholars in the field of environmental and resource economics. Khanna is a professor of economics at Binghamton University, and Kuminoff is an associate professor of economics at Arizona State University. Khanna and Kuminoff discuss the gender equity of authorship in environmental economics journals, equity in tenure-track academic jobs, how diversity in a research field contributes to the advancement of scientific knowledge, the state of the community of environmental economists, and prospects for early-career scholars.
References and recommendations:
“New Evidence on Diversity in Environmental and Resource Economics” by Nicolai V. Kuminoff, Katherine E. Ciaramello, Hanna M. Dooley, Martin D. Heintzelman, Neha Khanna, Lea-Rachel Kosnik, Lynne Y. Lewis, and Eric Trimble; https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/722907
“Don’t Look Up” film; https://www.netflix.com/title/81252357
“Is Climate Change like Diabetes or an Asteroid?” by Ted Nordhaus; https://thebreakthrough.org/articles/is-climate-change-like-diabetes
“The Three-Body Problem” in the trilogy of novels called “Remembrance of Earth’s Past” by Liu Cixin; https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765382030/thethreebodyproblem

Jan 15, 2023 • 32min
A History of America’s Public Lands, with John D. Leshy
In this week’s episode, host Margaret Walls talks with John D. Leshy, an emeritus professor at the University of California College of the Law, San Francisco, about the history of public lands in the United States. Leshy discusses the legislation that enabled the creation and conservation of public lands, common myths about public lands, and how the government may open up public lands for mining or clean energy projects in the future.
References and recommendations:
“Our Common Ground: A History of America’s Public Lands” by John D. Leshy; https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300235784/our-common-ground/
“The Mining Law: A Study in Perpetual Motion” by John D. Leshy; https://www.routledge.com/The-Mining-Law-A-Study-in-Perpetual-Motion/Leshy/p/book/9781138951877
“End of the Megafauna: The Fate of the World’s Hugest, Fiercest, and Strangest Animals” by Ross D. E. MacPhee; https://wwnorton.com/books/End-of-the-Megafauna/

Jan 10, 2023 • 32min
Does Cap and Trade Exacerbate Environmental Injustice in California?, with Danae Hernández-Cortés
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Danae Hernández-Cortés, an assistant professor at Arizona State University, about a recent study that investigates how California’s cap-and-trade program affects levels of harmful pollutants in environmental justice communities. Hernández-Cortés discusses how carbon markets can shift concentrations of local air pollutants, environmental justice outcomes of the cap-and-trade program in California, and the need for policies that target issues of environmental justice.
References and recommendations:
“Do environmental markets cause environmental injustice? Evidence from California’s carbon market” by Danae Hernández-Cortés and Kyle C. Meng; https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047272722001888
“Cracking the Case of the Vanishing Air Pollution Data, with Eric Zou” on Resources Radio; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/cracking-the-case-of-the-vanishing-air-pollution-data-with-eric-zou/
“The Bat Man” episode of the “Radio Ambulante” podcast; https://radioambulante.org/en/audio-en/the-bat-man (English translation of the transcript: https://radioambulante.org/en/translation/the-bat-man-translation)

Jan 2, 2023 • 37min
2022 Year in Review: Energy and Environmental Policy, with Catherine Wolfram and John Larsen
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi recaps 2022 with Catherine Wolfram, a visiting professor at the Harvard Kennedy School and member of the board of directors at Resources for the Future, and John Larsen, a partner at Rhodium Group. Wolfram and Larsen offer insights on the year’s biggest stories in energy and environmental policy at the state, national, and international levels, including US climate legislation and how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has affected energy markets. They also look ahead to the developments in energy and environmental policy that are likely to become important in 2023.
References and recommendations:
“Catalyst with Shayle Kann” podcast from Canary Media; https://www.canarymedia.com/podcasts/catalyst-with-shayle-kann
“California Burning: The Fall of Pacific Gas and Electric—and What It Means for America’s Power Grid” by Katherine Blunt; https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670012/california-burning-by-katherine-blunt/

Dec 26, 2022 • 32min
Does Environmental Cleanup Lead to Environmental Gentrification?, with Elaine Hill
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Elaine Hill, an associate professor at the University of Rochester, about a recent study that examines the effects of hazardous-waste cleanup on local communities. Hill discusses whether a particular federal cleanup program—the Corrective Action Program established under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act—benefits the residents it intends to help, or if it instead may lead to higher housing prices that could push lower-income residents out of their communities.
References and recommendations:
“Who Benefits from Hazardous Waste Cleanups? Evidence from the Housing Market” by Alecia W. Cassidy, Elaine L. Hill, and Lala Ma; https://www.nber.org/papers/w30661
“Moving Beyond Cleanup: Identifying the Crucibles of Environmental Gentrification” by H. Spencer Banzhaf and Eleanor McCormick; https://www.epa.gov/environmental-economics/working-paper-moving-beyond-cleanup-identifying-crucibles-environmental
“The Economics of Environmental Justice, with Samuel Stolper and Catherine Hausman” on Resources Radio; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/economics-environmental-justice-samuel-stolper-and-catherine-hausman/
“Inequality, Information Failures, and Air Pollution” by Catherine Hausman and Samuel Stolper; https://www.nber.org/papers/w26682
“Sorting over flood risk and implications for policy reform” by Laura A. Bakkensen and Lala Ma; https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0095069620300851
“Scene On Radio” podcast, Season 5, The Repair series; https://www.sceneonradio.org/the-repair/

Dec 18, 2022 • 27min
Hurricane Impacts on Birth Outcomes, with Jacob Hochard
In this week’s episode, host Margaret Walls talks with Jacob Hochard, an assistant professor at the University of Wyoming, about a new study that explores how hurricanes affect birth outcomes. Hochard discusses why hurricanes produce negative birth outcomes, the long-term effects of negative birth outcomes, and further research and policies that could help reduce the negative impacts of tropical storms.
References and recommendations:
“Associations of hurricane exposure and forecasting with impaired birth outcomes” by Jacob Hochard, Yuanhao Li, and Nino Abashidze; https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33865-x
“Integrating Nature into US Economic Statistics, with Eli Fenichel” on Resources Radio; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/integrating-nature-into-us-economic-statistics-with-eli-fenichel/
“The Social Value of Predicting Hurricanes” by Renato Molina and Ivan Rudik; https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4266614

5 snips
Dec 11, 2022 • 31min
Who Wants Wind and Solar in Their Communities?, with Sarah Mills
In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Sarah Mills, a researcher at the University of Michigan, about rural communities in the Great Lakes region and their perspectives on local renewable energy projects. Mills and Raimi discuss how rural communities tend to receive and perceive renewables projects, why large-scale projects often face opposition, and the extent to which outside interests may be fostering local opposition.
References and recommendations:
“The Rural Review” newsletter; https://www.ruralreconcile.org/ruralreview


