
ReFi Podcast
The regenerative finance (ReFi) movement in web3 offers hope to both the climate conscious and the crypto-curious. At the intersection of these two unlikely worlds lies an ecosystem of innovation answering "How do we redesign money and heal the earth?"
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 2min
Reflecting on Regeneration Nexus with Tereza Bízková and Maya Dentzel | S4 Bonus
In this bonus episode of the ReFi Podcast, Tereza and Maya look back on Season 4, 'The Regeneration Nexus,' and discuss their key learnings and favorite moments. They delve into the conceptual foundation and structure of the season, explore the intersection of personal mindfulness practices with the broader themes of regeneration, and discuss the importance of measurable case studies in the ReFi space. The hosts also tackle the role of technology, specifically AI, and its impact on environmental stewardship. They emphasize the importance of storytelling and communication in advancing regenerative finance, and share personal reflections and practices that help them stay grounded. Finally, they offer a call to action for listeners to share their thoughts and favorite moments from the season as they look forward to future explorations in the ReFi movement.👉 ReFi Podcast: https://x.com/ReFiPodcast👉 ReFi DAO: https://x.com/refidaoist👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova 👉 Tereza's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tereza-bizkova/👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel👉 Tereza's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayazdentzel/00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:47 Season Four Finale: The Regeneration Nexus01:08 Reflecting on Season Four02:41 The Genesis of the Regeneration Nexus03:35 Exploring the Miniseries: Vision, Practice, and Tools07:13 Key Moments and Personal Highlights12:48 Rose, Bud, and Thorn Reflections25:21 Personal Journeys in Refi32:56 Metaphors and Case Studies in Content Creation34:16 The Role of AI and Human-Centric Approaches34:58 Language and Communication in Regenerative Movements36:08 Interdisciplinary Challenges and Web338:01 Inner Regeneration and Mindfulness43:03 Yoga and ReFi Values46:38 Rapid Fire Questions and Personal Insights56:40 Future of ReFi and Community Collaboration01:00:24 Concluding Thoughts and Call to Action

Apr 7, 2025 • 54min
From Green Rush to ReFi Realism with David Fortson and Sandra Ponce De Leon | S4 Bonus
In this bonus episode of the ReFi podcast, hosted by Maya Dentzel, guests David Fortson and Sandra Ponce De Leon delve into the evolution of the regenerative finance space, transitioning from the initial excitement of the 'green rush' to a more grounded realism. They discuss creating sustainable business models, building regenerative communities, and the importance of trust and collaboration. The conversation also touches on the recent proposal for a region brand commons to ensure the integrity of regenerative efforts and avoid greenwashing. The episode concludes with practical advice and inspiration for the community to keep shipping and staying creative.👉 ReFi Podcast: https://x.com/ReFiPodcast👉 ReFi DAO: https://x.com/refidaoist👉 David's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-fortson-19692715/👉 Sandra's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandraponcedeleon/👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova 👉 Tereza's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tereza-bizkova/👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel👉 Tereza's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayazdentzel/00:00 Introduction to Regenerative Finance00:28 Meet the Guests: David Fortson and Sandra Ponce De Leon02:17 Big Picture: Trends and Future of Regenerative Finance02:39 Personal Journeys into Regenerative Finance09:13 Communicating ReFi to the Wider Audience11:25 Challenges and Realities of the ReFi Space18:18 Future Directions and Optimism in ReFi27:59 The Importance of Patience in Regeneration28:12 Creativity and Fun in Environmental Efforts29:06 Challenges and Solutions in Community Engagement29:38 Onboarding and Economic Systems in Crypto30:56 Building Trust in Global Communities32:39 Overcoming Obstacles in Web3 Adoption36:16 The Role of Delight in Product Development40:10 The Regen Commons Debate51:11 Rapid Fire Questions52:42 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 7min
Incubating New Societies with Timour Kosters | S4Bonus: Regeneration Nexus
Timour Kosters, co-founder of Edge City, shares his journey from math and economics to organizing transformative pop-up cities. He highlights the philosophy of emergent event organization, fostering collaboration among diverse professionals. Timour discusses community-centric funding mechanisms and how they can enhance inclusivity and innovation. He delves into the challenges of planning these temporary cities, emphasizing the power of community dynamics for systemic change. Inspiring stories of resilience and creativity make this conversation a must-listen.

Dec 23, 2024 • 54min
Web3 for Climate Action with Wes Geisenberger | S4E12: Regeneration Nexus
In this concluding episode of the ReFi podcast's fourth season, Maya and Tereza dive into sustainable technology with Wes Geisenberger, Vice President of Sustainability and ESG at the HBAR Foundation. The discussion spans various topics including the essential role of blockchain in addressing climate issues, insights from COP events, and Hedera's strategies for promoting sustainability. Wes highlights the significance of focusing on impact over financialization, the need for robust systems, and the promising potential of open-source technologies to facilitate large-scale sustainable initiatives. Practical advice for new entrants into the climate and Web3 intersection is also shared.
Links
👉 ReFi Podcast: twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
👉 ReFi DAO: twitter.com/refidaoist
👉 Wes’s LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/in/wesgeisenberger/ 👉 The HBAR Foundation’s Website: hbarfoundation.org/
👉 Regenerative Finance Forum: youtube.com/watch?v=GQNnjJbsAb8 👉 Hedera grants: hbarfoundation.org/apply
👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova
👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
Timestamps
[00:00] Introduction to Technology and Its Role
[00:48] Guest Introduction: Wes Gisenberger
[01:09] Reflections on ReFi and Technology
[02:00] Interview with Wes: COP Takeaways
[02:35] Blockchain and Carbon Markets
[04:02] Challenges and Opportunities in Carbon Markets
[04:50] The Role of Blockchain in Climate Finance
[06:04] Hedera's Mission and Vision
[06:28] Digitizing Methodologies and Open Source
[07:07] Building Capacity for Carbon Markets
[17:27] Hedera's Ecosystem and Sustainable Impact Fund
[28:43] State-Based Smart Contracts and Logging Technology
[29:28] Tokenization and Carbon Markets on Hedera
[30:58] Personal Journey into Climate Sustainability
[32:46] Challenges and Solutions in Environmental Data Management
[38:12] Interoperability in Blockchain and Climate Standards
[41:01] The Role of Technology in Climate Action
[45:50] Scaling the ReFi Space and Community Engagement
[49:18] Advice for Aspiring Change Makers
[51:47] Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

Dec 9, 2024 • 42min
Nature as Technology with Anna Lerner | S4E11: Regeneration Nexus
In this episode of the ReFi podcast, we speak with Anna Lerner, CEO of the Climate Collective, about her journey in using technology to combat climate change. Anna discusses the importance of product market fit for climate tech entrepreneurs, the potential of AI and blockchain in driving environmental accountability, and the crucial role of engaging local communities in climate projects. She emphasizes the need to shift focus from blaming countries for past damages to redirecting harmful subsidies towards climate and biodiversity goals. The conversation also highlights successful projects leveraging AI and blockchain for measurable environmental impact.
👉 ReFi Podcast: twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
👉 ReFi DAO: twitter.com/refidaoist
👉 Anna's LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-lerner-nesbitt-0569111
👉 Climate Collective: climatecollective.org/
👉Nature Tech Report: www.naturetechreport.com/
👉Climate Collective's Report: climatecollective.org/indigenous-shareholdership
👉 Tereza's X profile: x.com/TerezaBizkova
👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
00:00 Introduction to Nature Impact in Business
00:34 Welcome to the Refi Podcast
00:35 Interview with Kennedy Nana
01:20 Introducing Anna, CEO of Climate Collective
01:35 Anna's Journey in Climate Innovation
02:43 Early Career and First Job in Mozambique
04:09 Challenges and Equity in Climate Action
05:44 Biggest Challenges in Climate Finance
09:35 Technological Solutions for Climate Action
10:10 The Role of Nature and Technology
14:40 Blockchain and Climate Finance
18:13 The Evolution of Refi and Blockchain
19:50 Biodiversity Credit Markets
33:40 Successful Climate Tech Founders
37:24 Funding and Practical Tips for Climate Tech
38:52 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

Dec 2, 2024 • 49min
Embedding Culture into Tech with Constanza Gomez Mont | S4E10: Regeneration Nexus
In this episode of the ReFi Podcast, we welcome Constanza Gomez Mont, a renowned social entrepreneur and founder of C Mind and AI for Climate. Mont shares her extensive experience in leveraging AI and emerging technologies to address environmental challenges, particularly in Latin America. She discusses the significance of integrating cultural and traditional knowledge with modern tech, emphasizing a shift towards regenerative and inclusive solutions. Tune in to hear Mont's inspirational journey from founding an action tank to pioneering groundbreaking conservation projects, including AI-driven biodiversity credits and biodiversity credits for protection of jaguars. This episode offers valuable insights into ethical AI, sustainable development, and the imperative roles of governments and local communities in fostering transformational change.👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist
👉 Constanza’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/constanzagomezmont👉 CMinds Website: https://www.cminds.co/
👉 For Climate AI: https://www.forclimate.ai/
👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova
👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
00:00 Introduction to AI and Cultural Relevance
00:38 Meet Constanza Gomez Mont
02:01 Constanza's Journey and Vision
03:19 The Role of AI in Conservation
18:32 Challenges in Tech Adoption
25:40 Engaging Indigenous Communities
38:59 The Role of Governments and Policies
46:12 Final Thoughts and Rapid Fire Questions

Nov 25, 2024 • 1h 13min
Regenerative Technology with Jessica Groopman & Danielle Lanyard | S4E9: Regeneration Nexus
In this episode of the ReFi podcast, hosts Maya and Tereza sit down with Jessica Groopman and Danielle Lanyard, the visionary co-founders of the Regenerative Technology Project. Together, they explore the transformative potential of regenerative technology across various domains. Jessica’s journey from archaeology to Silicon Valley and Danielle’s holistic approach provide a well-rounded view of how technology can serve living systems. Key topics discussed include integrating regenerative principles into the tech sector, the convergence of technology and sustainability, and the roles of blockchain and AI in fostering regenerative systems. The episode also delves into practical implementations, featuring case studies on Materiom, Ecosia, and Fairbnb, and assesses the cultural and financial barriers to scaling emerging technologies.
👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist
👉 Regenerative Technology Project’s website: https://www.regentech.co/about/👉 Jessica’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicagroopman/
👉 Danielle’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dlanyard/
👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova
👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
00:00 Introduction to Regenerative Technology
00:47 Meet the Guests: Jessica Groopman and Danielle Lanyard
02:25 Jessica's Journey: From Archaeology to Regenerative Tech
07:49 Danielle's Path: From Meditation to Tech Innovation
19:16 Defining Regenerative Technology
23:00 Research Insights and Challenges
37:00 The Importance of a Holistic Approach
38:36 Challenges in Implementing Regenerative Technology
40:46 Examples of Regenerative Technology Projects
55:57 The Role of Blockchain in Regeneration
01:01:31 The Impact and Potential of AI
01:08:32 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Remarks

Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 9min
Building Bridges with Azeem Khan | S4E8: Regeneration Nexus
In this episode of the ReFi podcast, co-hosts interview Azeem Khan, a serial entrepreneur and leading figure in decentralized finance and crypto philanthropy. Azeem discusses his pragmatic approach to integrating traditional industry practices with the world of crypto to maximize social impact and financial sustainability. The conversation covers Azeem's career journey, including his work with Gitcoin, UNICEF, and various crypto philanthropy initiatives. Reflecting on key sustainability practices, he stresses the importance of fostering long-term partnerships and investing in community-driven projects. Azeem also shares insights on the controversial Shell deal with Gitcoin, expressing the need to balance ESG commitments with practical funding solutions. Additionally, the episode explores the current state and future of Web3, emphasizing the criticality of bridging Eastern and Western crypto cultures for broader adoption and impact.
👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist
👉 Azeem’s X profile: https://x.com/azeemk_
👉 Azeem’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theazeemkhan/
👉 Azeem’s project: https://www.morphl2.io/
👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova
👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
00:00 Introduction to Parallel Thinking in Crypto
02:03 Guest Introduction: Azeem Khan
02:56 Azeem's Journey into Crypto
06:22 Crypto Philanthropy and Public Goods
09:15 Challenges and Innovations in Web3
19:59 The Future of Blockchain Ecosystems
29:54 Conference Culture and Predictions for DevCon
34:09 VC Money and Crypto's Event Industry
34:26 Bridging Eastern and Western Crypto Cultures
38:46 Philanthropy in Web3: Real-World Impact
47:05 Challenges and Solutions in Crypto Philanthropy
52:57 The Shell Deal Controversy
58:06 Degen vs. Regen: A Balanced Perspective
01:03:16 Global Crypto Adoption: A Pragmatic Approach
01:07:17 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

Nov 4, 2024 • 45min
dMRV Innovation for Climate Resilience with Kennedy Ng'ang'a | S4E7: Regeneration Nexus
Kennedy Ng'ang'a, Founder and CEO of Shamba Network, shares his innovative journey into Web3, focusing on blockchain's role in empowering smallholder farmers in Africa. He discusses pioneering solutions like the ecological data oracle, crucial for managing climate data. Kennedy highlights the importance of community engagement in climate initiatives, while addressing challenges faced by farmers in adopting digital tools. His insights into regenerative finance and successful pilot projects in Kenya showcase the power of technology in fostering sustainable development and climate resilience.

Oct 28, 2024 • 54min
Regenerative Investing with Ebru Kaya | S4E6: Regeneration Nexus
Ebru Kaya, CEO of Atreyu Investments and co-founder of the Regenerative Investing Institute, dives into her journey toward impactful investing. She discusses the vital connection between business ecosystems and success, comparing them to nurturing flowers. Ebru highlights transformative projects in education and women's health, advocating for personalized care. The conversation also explores the evolution of regenerative finance, emphasizing the need for community engagement and innovative metrics to create meaningful societal change.