

Tangent 💚 Proptech
Edward Cohen, Jeff Berman & Zach Aarons
A podcast community for Proptech and Real Estate leaders, investors, operators and innovators.
A new era is upon us. Tangent💚Proptech unites Proptech founders💡, Real Estate investors and operators🏢, Venture Capital investors, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration.
Join VC investors Jeffrey Berman and Zach Aarons, and Proptech entrepreneur Edward Cohen, to learn about housing innovation, the future of work and climate tech. We examine these themes through interviews and conversations with Proptech CEO's, real estate owners and operators, and venture investors, and how we can leverage tech and collaboration to help solve the housing crisis, figure out the future of work and how to decarbonize the built environment.
If you would like to get your company’s or organization’s mission featured on Tangent, email us at community@tangentproptech.com.
Stay curious and always be learning! 🤓
A new era is upon us. Tangent💚Proptech unites Proptech founders💡, Real Estate investors and operators🏢, Venture Capital investors, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration.
Join VC investors Jeffrey Berman and Zach Aarons, and Proptech entrepreneur Edward Cohen, to learn about housing innovation, the future of work and climate tech. We examine these themes through interviews and conversations with Proptech CEO's, real estate owners and operators, and venture investors, and how we can leverage tech and collaboration to help solve the housing crisis, figure out the future of work and how to decarbonize the built environment.
If you would like to get your company’s or organization’s mission featured on Tangent, email us at community@tangentproptech.com.
Stay curious and always be learning! 🤓
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Nov 8, 2023 • 51min
How to Maximize Multifamily Performance with Renter Analytics, with RCKRBX CEO Michael Broder & COO James Moore
RCKRBX is the first real estate SaaS platform that puts the voice of the renter at the Multifamily developer's and investor's fingertips, including across key investment, development, marketing, leasing, and management decision points. The platform delivers actionable intelligence around the preferences, priorities, attitudes, and viewpoints that drive renter decision-making combined with predictive analytics to understand how these factors will impact asset performance and value over time, to what extent and why. Michael and James are applying their lessons from Political campaigning to the Real Estate world in a unique way.(1:13) - State of Multifamily(8:43) - Return to work impact on Multifamily(11:45) - What Multifamily can learn from political campaigns(16:44) - Demand side insights: What renters are looking for(25:00) - Canvassing renter insights to power investment decisions(32:23) - What Multifamily developers are missing(40:42) - What moves the rent needle beyond typical amenities(45:07) - Collaboration Superpower: Henry Ford💚 Learn more:➡️ RCKRBX's site➡️ Michael Broder on LinkedIn➡️ James Moore on LinkedIn💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on Twitter➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Oct 31, 2023 • 12min
The Easiest Way to Integrate Multifamily Property Management & Proptech, with Propify CEO & Co-founder Remen Okoruwa | Tangent @ Blueprint
Remen Okoruwa is product-minded leader who's working to unlock data for the property management industry. Remen and his co-founders met while they were working at Hubspot, and are now bringing their deep expertise about integrations to streamline Multifamily property management operations for all stakeholders. Propify (YC W23) recently raised $3.3M from VC firm Prudence, with additional funding from Fifth Wall, RXR, PropTech Angel Group, and HubSpot co-founder Dharmesh Shah. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series, the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:20) - Propify's origin story(1:34) - Benefits for Multifamily Proptech companies(2:55) - Translating data into insights & action(3:58) - Multifamily use cases(6:01) - Propify's unique business model(7:56) - Hubspot lessons for Proptech(9:21) - Where will Propify be in the next 12-24 months(10:16) - Key growth metrics💚 Learn more:➡️ Propify's site➡️ Remen Okoruwa on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Oct 24, 2023 • 55min
State of the Self Storage Market, On Demand Storage Models & Creating Value with Social Media Content, with DXD Capital Co-founder Cory Sylvester
As the Co-Founder of DXD Capital, Cory Sylvester brings 14 years of Real Estate & Finance expertise to revolutionize the Self Storage industry. Passionate about utilizing data and technology, Cory is building the largest platform for building and buying self storage facilities in the US. His Self Storage journey began with co-founding Radius+, a successful platform providing essential data for the self storage market. Through bootstrapping, they achieved seven-figure revenue and attracted the world's largest self storage company. Building on this success, DXD Capital was born, raising over $100M in equity and overseeing 30 facilities in various stages of completion. (1:00) - Self Storage Investor & developer sentiment(3:20) - American consumerism(8:38) - From Self Storage bear to Self Storage data software founder, investor and developer(13:04) - DXD Capital's investment thesis(16:10) - Feature: Strong Towns (site) - Make cities safe, livable, financially resilient and inspiring.(17:25) - On demand storage & VC: Clutter, Neighbor, Stuf(32:50) - Specialty Storage Subcategories: ISO, Boat Storage, Cold Storage, RV Storage(35:05) - Building a social media personal brand for value creation(50:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk💚 Learn more:➡️ DXD Capital's site➡️ Radius+'s site➡️ Cory Sylvester on LinkedIn➡️ Cory Sylvester on Twitter➡️ Strong Towns' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on Twitter➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Oct 17, 2023 • 6min
Solving the Construction Labor Shortage with Mobile Micro-Factories, with Cuby Co-founder Aleks Gampel | Tangent @ Blueprint
Aleksandr Gampel co-founded Cuby Technologies with Aleh Kandrashou in 2021 to tackle the construction labor shortage. After 200,000 engineering hours, Cuby is setting the stage to commercialize hundreds of mobile micro-factories (MMF's) on or near construction sites to enable developers, general contractors and local partners to build better buildings faster, more affordably with less labor. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.💚 Learn more:➡️ Cuby's site➡️ Aleksandr Gampel on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Oct 3, 2023 • 9min
CoreLogic CIO John Rogers on 22K Data Sources to Power Real Estate, Affordable Housing Development & Mitigate Climate Risk | Tangent @ Blueprint
John Rogers is the Chief Innovation Officer at CoreLogic, leading R&D on the biggest asset class in the world - the US Real Estate Economy, and driving new product development to market via an iconic property & location intelligence platform called Discovery. This platform allows clients that rely on data, insights, models and answers to drive growth or mitigate risk on their book of business. John asserts he's been fortunate to have worked in all 4 corners of the world leading large transformation projects in finance, retail, pharmaceuticals, logistics and airlines, including at IBM and British Airways. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:34) - Powering US Real Estate market(1:30) - Climate Risk Analytics for Housing ecosystem(4:28) - Truth data set(5:56) - Streamlining affordable housing development & collaboration(8:10) - Collaboration Superpower: Dr. Katherine Calvin at Chief Scientist at NASA💚 Learn more:➡️ CoreLogic's site➡️ John Rogers on LinkedIn💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Sep 26, 2023 • 14min
Zillow Co-Founder Spencer Rascoff on the New Proptech Wave, Democratizing Access with Housing Innovation, & LA Tech Ecosystem
Spencer Rascoff co-founded and ran Zillow for a decade as its CEO. Spencer is also the co-founder at Pacaso and, through his startup studio and VC firm, 75 & Sunny, is an active angel investor in more than 100 companies and is incubating several more. Rascoff is a NYT’s best selling author based in LA who focuses on Proptech, the future of work and the creator economy. Spencer is Visiting Professor at Harvard University where he teaches the StudioLab on Creativity and Entrepreneurship as well.(0:34) - From Zillow, AirBnB & WeWork to Proptech 2.0: What's next(3:20) - Mission-oriented founders(4:53) - Niche & simple vs. full stack solutions(7:00) - Too much capital: bug or feature(7:45) - Housing innovation & democratizing access(9:27) - LA Tech ecosystem: media, entertainment, defense & creator economy(11:56) - Discomfort Zone: Elon Musk💚 Learn more:➡️ 75 & Sunny's portfolio➡️ Spencer Rascoff on LinkedIn➡️ Pasaso CEO Austin Allison on Tangent💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Sep 12, 2023 • 38min
Housing Crisis | It's Not a Mortgage, It's Not Renting, It's Acre, with Acre Homes CEO & Co-founder Mike Schneider
Mike Schneider is the CEO & Co-founder of Acre Homes. Acre combines the ease of renting with the financial upside of owning. Acre is available in Raleigh-Durham, and will be launching in Atlanta and Nashville soon. Previously, Mike served as the VP of Technology Strategy at RE/MAX, and Co-founded First, a real estate tech company that leveraged machine learning to help agents win more business.(2:12) - Acre: Breaking the Renting or Home Mortgage paradigm(7:13) - Acre's model during variable interest rate environment(8:59) - Opportunity residents & investors(10:19) - Market growth(10:54) - Taking the Tesla approach: 10x better than mortgage(12:48) - Buying a home with a partner(15:28) - Acre Homes price point(16:47) - Feature: Blueprint (17:52) - Rent-to-own, buy before you sell, Home Equity products.(21:41) - Challenges of mortgages & bias in home appraisals(25:07) - Generating returns in Single family homes(25:42) - North Carolina ecosystem: Raleigh-Durham Research Triangle(29:51) - US cities transport options(33:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Steve Jobs(38:57) - Discomfort Zone: Is Built-to-rent overrated?💚 Learn more:➡️ Acre Homes (site) ➡️ Mike Schneider on LinkedIn 💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint (BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent for ticket discount) - Most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas this September. 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Aug 23, 2023 • 40min
Housing Crisis | Using Robots to Build Homes Faster & Cheaper, with BotBuilt CEO Brent Wadas
Brent Wadas is the CEO at BotBuilt, a Y-Combinator Construction technology company based in Durham, NC that is revolutionizing building homes with robots to address the labor shortage and housing affordability crisis. Brent served in the US Army in Afghanistan after 9/11, where he fulfilled his patriotic calling. BotBuilt employs a methodology that makes homebuilding less capital intensive, creating less waste and enabling a much more sustainable building process. Brent served over 10 years in the US Army as Assistant (to the) Regional Manager. Brent is an experienced business entrepreneur with a flair for achieving goals through actions and a passion for bringing dreams into focus.(1:34) - Brent Wadas' entrepreneurial & military journey(8:57) - What makes BotBuilt special(13:52) - Feature: CREx - Makes it easy to get data out of Yardi, Salesforce, and more.(15:15) - BotBuilt's factories: Durham, NC(16:56) - Lessons from Katerra's $2 billion saga(22:29) - Delivering a venture-scale return in Contech(25:51) - BotBuilt's unit economics & business model(31:49) - Contech adoption among homebuilders(34:40) - Collaboration Superpower: William "Wild Bill" Donovan (Head of the OSS, precursor to CIA) - Wiki (35:54) - Brent's 'Grand Daddy's' influence: 1st Scientific sharing agreement between USA & USSR 💚 Learn more: ➡️ BotBuilt's site ➡️ Brent's email: brent@botbuilt.com➡️ Katerra - Wiki 💚 Feature:➡️ CREx (learn more) - Makes it easy to get data out of Yardi, Salesforce, and more.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Aug 8, 2023 • 46min
Creating Pro-housing Ecosystems, with Ivory Innovations' Chief Innovation & Strategy Jenna Louie
Jenna Louie, Chief Innovation and Strategy Officer at Ivory Innovations, is a champion for housing affordability. In this discussion, she shares how Ivory convenes experts and supports entrepreneurs tackling housing issues. Louie highlights innovative solutions, like Outreach Grid's improved shelter communication and a booking system empowering the homeless. She emphasizes the need for collaboration among civic organizations and government to create sustainable housing policies, drawing insights from Salt Lake City's initiatives and international examples.

Jul 27, 2023 • 58min
The Real Deal's Amir Korangy on the Future of Real Estate Media, Building Hybrid Real Estate Communities & AI Opportunities & Threats
Amir R. Korangy is an Iranian-American publisher and film producer, who founded the business magazine, The Real Deal, about real estate and finance news. He also produced the PBS documentary, "Building Stories", about architect Costas Kondylis. Amir Korangy is also an adjunct associate professor of media and real estate at New York University where in the fall of 2018 he will be teaching a course titled the Korangy sessions where graduate students will have an opportunity to court questions as to the reality of real estate in the city and the country, complementing to their theoretical framework.💚Learn more: ➡️ The Real Deal' site➡️ Amir Korangy's Wikipedia💚Feature:➡️ PRN - Parking Reform Network - Education about the impact of parking policy on urban life & housing. - Visit website➡️ Blueprint (BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent for ticket discount) - Most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas this September. 💚Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on Twitter(2:26) - Twitter / X & Threads, Elon & Zuck(8:25) - Proptech & Contech sales on Social Media(9:54) - #REtwit - Real Estate community's Twitter / X home(11:50) - Parking Reform Network - Education about the impact of parking policy on urban life & housing.(15:27) - Real Estate Business ed on TikTok, LinkedIn, Youtube, Instagram(21:09) - The Real Deal's community & multichannel(26:40) - The Real Deal's Dotcom bubble launch(27:48) - AI Opportunities & Threats for Media(30:33) - Zach's VC wins(37:35) - Feature: Blueprint - Largest event of Proptech innovators in Las Vegas on Sep. 11th-13th(39:41) - AI & Copyright(44:00) - AI-generated history, education & religion(53:41) - Collaboration Superpower: Nick Denton (Gawker)Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.


