The Packology Podcast

Dustin began working with digital labels in 2013 and made his first investment in a digital packaging startup in 2017. He discovered personally that there are no playbooks to follow in emerging industries after investing in two digital packaging startups and leading the commercial development of three more.On this episode, we'll talk about:A quick summary of Digital PackagingHow has digital packaging evolved?What the future holds for Digital Packaging and what are some of the key drivers as we look toward the future?Digital Packaging and Smart Packaging coming togetherHow can digital packaging kind of create those individual personalized experiences between a brand and each customer?His advice on how they should approach the next wave of packaging and smart packaging, web three, and how it relates to digital packaging and other issues.What role does Web three play in the packaging business?What is CMYK?As we look to build this community around disruptors in packaging and digital print, collaboration may provide some value.Dustin Steerman founded CMYK and today, He is building a boutique agency, for global packaging executives who seek to or have already begun investing in their digital transformation, Developing a community for digital packaging disruptors and industry enthusiasts, and Coaching a select few sales leaders and sales professionals in the digital packaging sector and Writing about the industry and how others can create their success within this rapidly emerging sector. All intended to further advance the global digital packaging industry. He believes our niche provides the opportunity to rewrite the narrative around the global packaging sector. One that places people, diversity, sustainability, collaboration, and innovation at its core.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media!  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Dan on his website and connect with him on Email, LinkedIn and Twiiter.Website: https://www.dustinsteerman.com/Email: hey@dustinsteerman.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinsteerman/Twitter: https://twitter.com/PKGingDisruptorThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

Ameripen is the acronym for American Institute for Packaging in the Environment. They were a US-based trade association that primarily served as an advocacy and lobbying organization. They represent the packaging industry in the United States. Ameripen represents the whole packaging value chain, which means they include material suppliers, package manufacturers, brand owners who utilize that packaging, recyclers, and other end-of-life materials managers among their members. They have a number of product-specific and materials-specific trades as members, and Ameripen works with them to lobby for them on issues and to learn about the specifics of different industries and types of packaging. Ameripen's main focus is on federal and state work.On this episode, we'll talk about:How long has he been working in this field?When there is more discussion about sustainability and sustainable packaging now than there has been in the past. Has he noticed this or is it just a passing fad or trend?What kind of legislation does he expect the new sustainability committee to pass? Where is it coming from? What is his perspective on it?What does packaging producer responsibility mean for the packaging producers around the country?Is there a sense that there should be more federal law or guidance on how recycling works or is it really up to the individual states to exercise?What does he have to say to those who question the US manufacturing industry's ability to compete globally? The extra fees and charges will only make bringing manufacturing back to the United States more difficult.When it comes to the recycled content mandates, what are the core materials that are being focused on? is it mostly plastic or are there other kinds of materials that are being considered as well?The impact he believes these mandates will have on the packaging value chain?What legislation is currently kind of being looked at or has been passed recently that deals with the beauty industry?We manufacture a lot of plastic and glass molds, and many of them, both locally and internationally, have the chasing arrows symbols on the bottom with the resin identification code. If legislation were to pass, would molds have to be changed as well?What are the dangers of toxic chemicals?Dan Felton is executive director of AMERIPEN, an organization that leads the packaging industry through advocacy based on science and enhances understanding of the role packaging plays in a more sustainable society, economy, and environment. A well-known leader in the state government affairs arena for nearly 20 years.  A graduate of Gustavus Adolphus College in Minnesota, Dan has lived in the Washington, DC, area for nearly 30 years.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media! :arrow_down:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=enWebsite: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Dan on his website and connect with her on LinkedIn.Website: https://www.ameripen.org/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dan-felton-398a505The views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. T

Dye Candy is a company that Kathryn founded, and under the umbrella of Dye Candy, its flagship product is the hummingbird, a hair color applicator. She is very highly trained and then move to Portland, Oregon where she stepped away from her salon career to take care of her family. She discovered that coloring her hair at home was a completely different experience than the very caring boutique feeling of getting her hair done. she also discovered that applying color to your head took time and the precision that was lacking with the tools that she had, and that she was pretty much-wrecking hair within a few months.On this episode, we'll talk about:What inspired her to design a fully reusable productWhat has been the feedback on her product since its launch? How did she navigate all of the different aspects of designing custom packaging and the process of manufacturing design?With so many different samples delivered to her, how did she choose which one was the one? Where are the other parts being made?Were there any big moments during the development of the packaging?When there is a significant difference between molds that are made domestically and overseas, especially in smaller quantities.Where did she get the conviction from overcoming all the challenges and still stay persistent?What does her family think while she goes through all of this? What advice does she have for anyone who is designing and developing something new?A former salon professional with 15 years in the industry, Kathryn Madison was surprised by how frustrating (and damaging) it was to dye her own hair at home. Mass-produced applicators were flimsy, messy, single-use plastics better suited for dressing a garden burger than putting fine touches on her roots. So Kathryn decided to put her salon experience to work. She knew this new tool had to be reusable. It needed precise flow control - no more blobs on blouses, no more sloppy over-dyeing. And it had to be easy. After years of research, design, and dozens of prototypes, The Hummingbird™ was ready to spread its wings.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media! :arrow_down:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=enWebsite: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Kathryn on her website and connect with her on LinkedIn.Website: https://dyecandy.com/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kathrynmadisonThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

The U.S. Plastics Pact brings together businesses, not-for-profit organizations, government agencies, and research institutions that work together toward a common vision of a circular economy for plastics, as outlined by the Ellen MacArthur Foundation’s New Plastics Economy Initiative. This vision aims to ensure that plastics never become waste by eliminating the plastics we don’t need, innovating to ensure that the plastics we do need are reusable, recyclable, or compostable, and circulating all the plastic items we use to keep them in the economy and out of the environment.On this episode, we'll talk about:•What does US Plastic Pact trying to accomplish and what impact will it have?•Why do they think plastic is the most important issue to address?•What are the negative things that plastic packaging is doing right now to our world that the Plastic Pack is trying to solve?•What are the biggest challenges caused by the mismanagement of plastic waste?•Have other countries filled in the gap since China stopped buying our waste, or is it just staying here in the US and ending up in landfills?•Water bottles made of PET and milk jugs made of polyethylene are arguably the two most widely recyclable and approved items in the US•The shift in the investor mentality with more sustainable objectives, goals, and business model•What role the government will have in accomplishing a lot of these changes?•commending companies that have formed an organization, not just the companies, but everyone who signed on to the US Plastic Pact and made a voluntary commitment to openness.•Different viewpoints on the term Recyclable•Is it preferable to use plastic bottles over glass bottles in terms of climate change, if plastic bottles have a lower carbon footprint?Emily Tipaldo, with more than a decade of experience with plastics, recycling, and materials management, brings her skills of stakeholder engagement, industry expertise, and passion for reducing climate change to the U.S. Plastics Pact. The U.S. Plastics Pact is a solutions-driven consortium with more than 100 diverse businesses and organizations across the plastics value chain working to rethink the way we design, use, and reuse plastics, to create a path toward a circular economy for plastic in the United States. Through previous work with the research and consulting company MORE Recycling and the Plastics Division of the American Chemistry Council, Emily built incredible knowledge and value chain connections that support her work today as Executive Director of the U.S. Plastics Pact.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media!   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Emily on her website and connect with her on Twitter and LinkedIn.Website: https://usplasticspact.org/Twitter: https://twitter.com/EmmTipLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/emily-tipaldo-305b86aThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

Jay Marks is a workplace strategist, looking at what happens at work and how to make work be a good place as it can be. He has a background in Organizational Development or Leadership Development, Leadership Training, and Organizational Psychology. He also worked as an Independent Consultant and worked with consulting companies and as a VP of organization development at a large corporation.On this episode, we'll talk about:•what are the main contributors or things that leaders or people in an organization can do to improve work•what has changed in the workplace in the last ten to twenty years?•how to find out or judge if a leader is being effective and if they are leading things in the right way•Psychological Safety•experiences of seeing a team or a project where people aren't on the same page•thoughts on people are getting more sensitive and more easily offended today than maybe in the past•emotional intelligence•when people become more comfortable or empowered in sharing their discomfort or when they have been offended•why many people are changing jobs•the alignment/balance between a leader and the teamJay Marks, Principal, is a workplace strategist with expertise in organization and leadership development. He’s helped leading organizations become better places to work. He has worked as Vice President of Management Learning and Organization Development at The Capital Group, a premier global investment management firm. While there, the firm grew from 600–9,600 employees. He learned a great deal about growth and growing pains, working with dispersed teams, and integrating new leaders into a rapidly evolving culture and business organization. In addition, he's assisted industry leaders in other sectors evolve their workplace culture, manage change and growth, and improve their overall employee experience—allowing them to retain and attract top talent.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media!   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Jay on his website and connect with her on Twitter, LinkedIn, and Email.Website: https://www.jaymarksgroup.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jaymarks1LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jaymarksEmail: jaymarksgroup@gmail.comThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

O'Neil as a consumer and accumulates a lot of waste and didn't know what to do with it. She knew that a lot of it, especially with more packaging moving towards being compostable, recyclable, and reusable that a lot of it could be disposed of more sustainably, but there was no direct solution and place to return that or really do much with. So that was where her idea for Cannachange started and giving consumers a more direct way to return that packaging and then from there just kind of turned into an app.On this episode, we'll talk about:The problem with cannabis packaging waste and how it all startedThe obstacles and challenges she experienced, particularly in obtaining dispensaries The challenges she encountered in bringing Cannachange to life, whether it was dispensary side, consumer engagement, or other issues What other aspects of cannabis and sustainability that she's interested in? When did she realize she was truly passionate about these topics? Her experience in creating an app and building an online platform that would connect so many people to recycled packaging, dispensaries, and everything else Her favorite quote from Taylor SwiftHer advice to young people, students, or professionals who are out of the workforce right now or who are just seeing problems all around them but don't have the courage, confidence, or desire to make the type of change she's trying to make.How can listeners support Cannachange and what she's trying to accomplish?O’Neil Rudolph is an entrepreneur with a passion for sustainability used to shift the Cannabis Industry. Advocate for Women, POC, and LGBTQ+ owned businesses. O’Neil Rudolph is the CEO of cannachange, a company that partners with dispensaries to issue credits to consumers for their sustainability efforts using their mobile app. She has a mission for increasing overall sustainability in the Cannabis Industry and making sustainability practices more accessible and easier for consumers to incorporate into everyday life.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media! :arrow_down: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about O’Neil on her website and connect with her on LinkedIn.Website: https://cannachange.co/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/oneil-rudolphThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

Rosemary Coates was instrumental in establishing the Reshoring Institute, a non-profit dedicated to helping companies in deciding where they should manufacture, with a focus on bringing manufacturing back to the United States.  On this episode, we'll talk about: Rosemary Coates's background and the work she's doing at the Reshoring InstituteWhy companies are looking to shift manufacturing to the USAWhat was it about the pandemic that made companies consider reducing their risk or analyzing the risk tolerance? The pivotal shift in how companies think about inventory or the way they're manufacturing goods.Her thoughts on the impact of supply chain issues on packaging manufacturing, as well as the desire to bring that manufacturing back to the United States. Her most recent published book called 'Illegal Blacksmith" Companies that bring manufacturing back to the US and the impact on their businessWhat are the biggest mistakes or pitfalls that some companies make while trying to bring manufacturing back to the United States, or maybe fail in the process?When do most businesses approach her, when they're just getting started with the processes or after they've tried and failed to figure it out? Are there any states in the United States that are better or more suitable for manufacturing, or are there any that are less so? The impact of the partisan way that both sides have looked at US manufacturing or bringing things in, or is there a political party that has a more agreeable tone or approach?Her advice for young listeners students that either in the packaging field or business in general.and many more!Rosemary Coates is a highly-skilled executive with deep experience in corporate strategy and global operations. Founder and Executive Director of the Reshoring Institute and President of Blue Silk Consulting. She is a Global Supply Chain Architect and Strategist and author of five books: "42 Rules for Sourcing and Manufacturing in China"​ (a Best Seller at Amazon.com); "42 Rules for Superior Field Service,"​ "The Reshoring Guidebook," and "Legal Blacksmith - How To Avoid and Defend Supply Chain Disputes." For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media! :arrow_down:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=enWebsite: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Rosemary on her website and connect with her on Twitter and LinkedInWebsite: https://bluesilkconsulting.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/rcoatesLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosemarycoates/WordPress: https://rcoates.wordpress.com/ The views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

Charles Tschaggeny is a self-proclaimed hater and a judger of packaging.  So, I thought, we should chat! Turns out he really is, especially when it comes to overdone and elaborate packaging. He is against the amount of waste and potentially misleading information or marketing in the industry of packaging but in favor of functional core packaging that is necessary for products.On today's episode, we talked about:•The excessive demands of and the need for packaging in order to make people's lives "more convenient or easier"•Why aren't we recycling?•Charles Tschaggeny background in packaging, design, and development•With very much design and manufacturing background, at what point did he realize the purely functional standpoint in approaching packaging•Greenwashing•Why is it bad to capture more recycled content, process it, and use it?•When selecting packaging or choosing packaging materials, what are the little things that brands can potentially do to make things better?•Why manufacturing equipment is a bad thing?•What would he recommend working with or trying to change people's minds when it comes to old-school packaging?•What would it be the closest thing he could come up with to describe optimal packaging?Charles built his career as an engineer by being able to think outside the box. He graduated from the University of Utah with an MS and a BS in Mechanical Engineering with an emphasis on design, several patents, and a passion for problem-solving. Now, 15+ years in the industry have allowed him to build experience and refine his abilities through work in the fields of robotics, automation, product and process design, and system architecture.He has worked in the molecular diagnostics world for over 10 years and has become very knowledgeable about the diagnostics world including both the design of diagnostic products and their manufacture.When it comes to designing solutions, products, and processes, He is most interested in carving new paths by pursuing unique and innovative options.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media!   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Charles on his website and connect with her on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.Website: https://www.tschaggenydesign.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/chwitschLinkedin: linkedin.com/in/charlestschaggenyThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

The work Mia Davis' done over at Credo with developing the sustainable packaging guidelines and the impact that had on brands and packaging suppliers and co-founder of a new company called PACT Collective, which deals with collecting beauty, packaging waste, and working with recyclers to turn that waste into something good and to keep it out of landfills and out of our oceans.On today's episode, we talked about:• The coming event of the Sustainable Packaging Coalition in San Francisco• What has Credo been up to in terms of packaging sustainability? A quick historical summary of everything that's gone on over the last few years?• How did she get to the point where packaging waste was going to be the focus versus carbon emissions and all other things out there?• The impact of sustainable packaging guidelines on brands, investors, employees, and on everything?• Pact Collective and the challenges with the recyclability of beauty waste• How Pact approach in making sure the collecting materials is going to be recycled or processed• How Pact navigate the challenges of transporting recycled material• The possibility of transitioning back to the milkman model as more consumers get okay with buying packaging in limited quantities and refilling it multiple times• Her advice for the brands right now about how should they communicate with their customers in terms of disposing of the product packaging in the most responsible way?• How most of the squeezable tubes is not recyclable?• A topic about sustainable packaging about which she recently learned and is passionate, but people are not talking about it enough• what would she recommend to the brands or packaging designer developer when they need to use plastic?• Is there anything she'd like to say to the listeners or the community, or anything we should touch on?Mia is the VP of Sustainability & Impact at Credo Beauty, the largest clean beauty retailer. Mia created the Credo Clean Standard, including the Sustainable Packaging Guidelines-- retail's strongest "clean" formula and packaging standards.Mia co-founded the new nonprofit membership organization Pact Collective to start to make a dent in hard-to-recycle beauty waste, and to bring beauty stakeholders together to move toward circularity.Mia was on the founding team at Beautycounter, where she developed the company's stance on safety, including the industry-leading "Ingredient Selection Process," and led sustainability and social responsibility efforts.Mia is a big-picture thinker and a DO-er, a strategic leader and activist committed to systemic equity. She's a confident, compelling communicator and moving public speaker, capable of delivering complex information to diverse audiences.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media! :arrow_down:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=enWebsite: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Mia on her website and connect with her on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.Website: https://www.miadavis.info/Twitter: https://twitter.com/nontoxicissexyLinkedin: linkedin.com/in/mia-davis-ba0b213The views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.

Going to the grocery store with his father inspired Jonathan Quinn's interest in packaging. He now works for a company called PREGIS and one of the products they specialized in is FLEXIBLE PACKAGING FILM, the sustainability of the material, and the complexity of plastics in general.On today's episode, we talked about:How Jonathan's packaging journey started with family historyWhat was it about the packaging or the type of formats in which he was working with that grabbed his attention?His definition of what this kind of sustainability means to him in terms of packaging, particularly flexible packaging filmWhat are his sustainability pillars the recyclability of flexible films, in terms of the materials and the waste streamDealing with the simplicity of consumers' awareness of the benefits of plastics in today's society.The fact that almost all of the plastic bags and flexible packaging is not captured and not recycled is a major problemThoughts on plastic-wrapped bananasThe implications on food waste generated by eliminating plastic are far worse for the environment and greenhouse gas emissions.Getting to know more about Pregis and what they are trying to accomplishJonathan Quinn is the Director of Market Development and Sustainability at Pregis, where he leads the market segmentation strategy development and execution along with all facets of flexible packaging sustainability focused on providing innovative products and services that Protect, Preserve, & Inspyre. He joined Pregis in June of 2021. He is widely recognized as an expert in the areas of Packaging Sustainability, consumer insight, and the voice of consumers associated with packaging. He has been conducted extensive consumer research on the e-Commerce and consumer packaged goods sectors. Prior to joining Pregis, He most recently held Marketing leadership roles at NOVA Chemicals. Additionally, He held sales leadership and business development roles at Illinois Tool Works Zip-Pak division, the COESIA Group, and Multisorb Technologies.For more information and to explore other episodes, go to www.ppcpackaging.com/the-packaging-brothersFollow PPCPackaging on social media!  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pacific-packaging-components-inc-/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PPCPackaging/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ppcpackaging/?hl=en Website: http://www.ppcpackaging.com/Find out more about Jonathan on her website and connect with her on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.Website: https://www.pregis.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/JQuinnPackagedLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jquinnpackaged/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jquinnpackaged/?hl=enThe views and opinions expressed on the "Packaging Brothers" podcast are solely those of the author and guests and should not be attributed to any other individual or entity. This podcast is an independent production of Packaging Brothers, and the podcast production is an original work of the author. All rights of ownership and reproduction are retained—copyright 2022.