

Playing With Fire
Joli Hamilton
Welcome to Playing With Fire, the podcast for people who are ready to custom-build their love.
We’re talking about non-monogamy–however you design it–as an individuation opportunity.
Want to leave the default and make your life spectacularly you? You’re in the right place.
We’re talking about non-monogamy–however you design it–as an individuation opportunity.
Want to leave the default and make your life spectacularly you? You’re in the right place.
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Feb 25, 2023 • 52min
101 Three ways of being polyamorous
Is polyamory something innate in you, like an orientation? Is it a practice? A philosophy? A mindset? An identity? A choice?
Being able to describe your approach to polyamory makes it easier to connect with others, build community, and choose partners from a place of enthusiastic, informed consent.
Are you ready to open your relationship happily? Find out at www.JoliQuiz.com

Feb 18, 2023 • 39min
100 Finding relationship happiness through creative projects
It's our 100th episode of Playing with Fire!
This podcast was intended to be 13 episodes to cover each chapter of Joli's first book... and here we are with 100 episodes in and feeling more excited about this shared project than we ever dreamed.
Every relationship benefits from a shared purpose (see episode 65), but so often, the shared project defaults to householding and/or kids.
Proactively creating shared purpose beyond the banal is an option. For us, it's been a magnificent addition to our connection. Especially as our kids grow up and we face a (sort-of) empty nest during the college years- it was looking easier to turn to other relationships for creative, vulnerable fun. And then Playing with Fire was born.
This episode is highly personal and also designed to be inspirational.
We did what we do whenever we are having a relationship retrospective: one part analysis (Ken's a scrum guy, of course), one part gratitude, and one part weird. I love adding the weird- why even bother being alive if not to be weird?
Are you ready to open your relationship happily? Find out at www.JoliQuiz.com

Feb 11, 2023 • 54min
99 Balancing individuation & secure attachment with Polysecure author Jessica Fern
It's normal to want your relationship to feel secure.
It's normal to want to individuate.
It's normal to want to explore what life can look like beyond the constraints of default monogamy.
But how do you actually deal with your specific attachment wounds and still create a love that makes space for multiple loving connections?
Joli & Jessica dove into how attachment theory can help us make a relationship that actually works for us, but we went beyond the surface of attachment theory. Y'all are smart- and she's done a lot of interviews already (google is your friend), so I wanted to go deeper and find out how Jessica weaves other theories into her work and how she helps people move out of relational trauma loops and into the life they desire.
Jealousy, internal family systems/parts work, and narrative therapy... oh, and some sneak peeks of Jessica's upcoming book Polywise!
Jessica Fern is a Psychotherapist, Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, and author of the book Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and NonMonomgamy and The Polysecure Workbook. In her international private practice, Jessica works with individuals, couples, and people in multiple-partner relationships who no longer want to be limited by their reactive patterns, cultural conditioning, insecure attachment styles, and past traumas, helping them to embody new possibilities in life and love.
Learn more at www.JessicaFern.com
Are you ready to open your relationship happily? Find out at www.JoliQuiz.com

Feb 4, 2023 • 36min
98 You're *too much*
Joli here- how many times have you heard one of these gems? You're a lot. You're intimidating. You're an energizer bunny. You're hyper-productive. You must never rest. You're just too much.
Tell me, who are you comparing me to when you make this pronouncement?
Ken sat down to talk out one of my core wounded parts, the girl who gets told she's intimidating in every way. It was good medicine for me, and I hope listening in offers the same to you.
If you've been told you're too much, I hope I hear more from you. Get louder, dance more wildly, splash color everywhere... be you where I can see, please!

Jan 28, 2023 • 40min
97 Jealousy and sexual arousal: getting off on the green-eyed monster!
Does the thought of your partner being with someone else make you...hot as hell?
You aren't alone.
Though jealousy is often thought of as the LAST thing anyone would want in their life, that's not the only way it goes. In Joli's phenomenological research, 30% of participants reported sexual, juicy responses when they felt jealous.
Turning the standard jealousy narrative on its head is a delicious opportunity- and in this very personal episode, we're talking about how working with jealousy differently over the past two decades has led to some transformative and HOT times.
It really is possible to get off on the complex feeling of jealousy- come hear how we've been working with it to do just that.
Are you ready to open your relationship happily? Find out at www.JoliQuiz.com

Jan 21, 2023 • 40min
96 Which is better: To open from the start or to establish couplehood first?
Seeking open relationship bliss?
Great. Us too. And all my clients. You're not alone.
Every week I hear from at least a few people who want to know if they should try to open right from the start or whether they need to solidify their couplehood first. Everyone seems to have a strong opinion, and I hear a ton of FEAR that if you get this *wrong*, you're relationship is going to be so.much.harder. This episode hits a lot of non-monogamy hot-buttons, so get ready to consider things from multiple angles!
Are you ready to have an unconventional love? Take this 2 minute quiz and see!

Jan 14, 2023 • 50min
95 Envisioning Your Dream Relationship
Creating the relationship you really want begins with the ENVISIONING process. Plus, it's really easy to find yourself in relationships that don't fit right (but do feel familiar) unless you actively participate in the relationship envisioning process.
This conversation is like being a fly on the wall of our relationship- Ken's sharing how he wound up in a marriage that was completely the opposite of what his soul truly longed for, and Joli's got some tips for how to get started in your own envisioning process.
Are you ready to open your relationship happily? Find out at www.JoliQuiz.com

Jan 7, 2023 • 45min
94 Romantic Friendships: Subversive & Awesome
I (Joli) love romantic friendships. Ones that have a deeply intimate quality and the capacity to have honest conversations about boundaries and relationship agreements. Ones that feel soft, warm, and connected. But romantic friendships scare some people- it makes sense because they are one way we can live beyond the boxes of patriarchal convention. Developing romantic friendships takes intentionality and creativity... and it's totally worth it! There are two big takeaways at the end that will get you started breaking the norms and building the friendships you truly want!
Are you ready to have an unconventional love? Take this 2 minute quiz and see!

Dec 31, 2022 • 31min
93 [MOST POPULAR EPISODE replay] Relationship agreements in the wild
This week we are sharing our most popular episode ever- this one is a not-to-miss!
Relationship agreements might sound dry but the process of co-creating relationship bliss is NOT dry in the least. This episode is part explanation, part demonstration of how we review and negotiate the living document that is our relationship agreement. We found a hole in one of ours while recording that we need to address--No relationship escapes being a work in progress, including ours.
Are you ready to open up happily? Take this 2 minute quiz and see!

Dec 24, 2022 • 31min
92 Finding help and hope during your shift from monogamy to polyamory
Relationships are where we seek security, so making changes can feel particularly scary or overwhelming. Don't let this fear stop you from creating the custom-built relationship you really want! This episode is all about how you can shift your experience of opening up from fearful to hopeful starting today.
How ready are you--right now-- to open your marriage? Take this 2 minute quiz and see!


