

The Fire These Times
Elia Ayoub
The Fire These Times is a podcast by Lebanese writer and researcher Elia Ayoub and friends connecting academics, writers, artists and activists from around the world to “build the new in the shell of the old.”
It is a part of the From The Periphery Media Collective. To support: https://www.patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
It is a part of the From The Periphery Media Collective. To support: https://www.patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 7, 2022 • 1h 38min
94/ The Political Economy of Solarpunk w/ Andrew Dana Hudson
This is a conversation with speculative fiction writer and sustainability researcher Andrew Dana Hudson. His stories have appeared in Slate Future Tense, Lightspeed Magazine, Vice Terraform, MIT Technology Review, Grist, Little Blue Marble, The New Accelerator, StarShipSofa and more, as well as various books and anthologies. His fiction has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize and longlisted for the BSFA. In 2016 his story “Sunshine State” won the first Everything Change Climate Fiction Contest, and in 2017 he was runner up in the Kaleidoscope Writing The Future Contest. His 2015 essay “On the Political Dimensions of Solarpunk” has helped define and grow the “solarpunk” subgenre. He is a member of the cursed 2020 class of the Clarion Workshop.
Support: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Website: TheFireThisTi.Me
Twitter + Instagram @ firethesetimes
Topics Discussed:
What is Solarpunk?
Introduction to his essay “On the Political Dimensions of Solarpunk“
The urgency of Solarpunk and the response to Cyberpunk
Post-normal fiction
Solarpunk and global network society: why did it start in the 2010s?
The importance of care work
Solarpunk and the future of cities
Solarpunk and utopias
Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction
The climate activism momentum
How has Solarpunk changed over the years? Also: discussion of COP26 and Green New Deal
Books mentioned + Recommended:
Multispecies Cities: Solarpunk Urban Futures edited by Priya Sarukkai Chabria and Taiyo Fujii and Shweta Taneja (which includes a story by Andrew)
Our Shared Storm: A Novel of Five Climate Futures by Andrew (Pre-order now)
Lo stato solare by Andrew
Infomocracy by Malka Ann Older
Gnomon by Nick Harkaway
Infinite Detail by Tim Maughan
A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
Walkaway by Cory Doctorow
The art is by artist and illustrator CosmosKitty (I added the text). Check out their work here: cosmoskitty.com

Dec 10, 2021 • 45min
It Could Happen Here: On The New Periphery
Hey everyone,
As I'm taking a bit of a break I'm sharing with you the episode I did on the podcast "It Could Happen Here Daily with Robert Evans" about my article for Lausan.hk entitled "The periphery has no time for binaries". Make sure to check out It Could Happen Here :)
See you all in January!
To support: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Blog: thefirethisti.me

Dec 3, 2021 • 54min
Mangal Media: Solarpunk, Climate Change and the New Thinkable
As I'm taking a wee break, here's an interview I gave on the Mangal Media podcast about my article of the same name.
You can read it here: https://www.mangalmedia.net/english/solarpunk-climate-change-and-the-new-thinkable
Mangal Media is a global collective of writers, artists, journalists and scholars from the so-called “periphery” who are concerned about reclaiming their own narratives.
Check out their podcast :) I was on there more recently as well to talk about protest chants since the Arab Spring.
See you in January.
Patreon: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Blog: thefirethisti.me

Nov 26, 2021 • 41min
Voice Messages From The Balkan Route
As I'm taking a bit of a break, I thought I'd share with you a recording published by the Sara Jeva Collective. Listen to those who became victims of illegal pushbacks in Croatia. The reports deal with flight, racism and policeviolence against migrants and refugees.
Links:
https://twitter.com/JevaSara/status/1446739260112097282
https://reportssarajevo.blackblogs.org/
Related episodes on The Fire These Times:
Episode 35: The European Union’s Violence Against Asylum Seekers, with Jack Sapoch, coordinator of No Name Kitchen‘s border violence reporting, itself part of the Border Violence Monitoring Network (BVMN).
Episode 49: Moria Camp and the Deadly Cost of Fortress Europe, with Ghias Al Jundi, a Syrian-British human rights activist, about the 2020 fires at the Moria camp in Greece
Just look them up wherever you listen to this podcast!

Nov 12, 2021 • 1h 16min
93/ Syrian Prison Literature and the Poetics of Human Rights (with Shareah Taleghani)
This is a conversation with Shareah Taleghani, Assistant Professor of Middle East Studies and Arabic at Queens College at the City University of New York and the author of the book "Readings in Syrian Prison Literature: The Poetics of Human Rights" published by Syracuse University Press.
Support: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Website: TheFireThisTi.Me
Twitter + Instagram @ firethesetimes
Topics Discussed:
Background and context, Syrian prison literature
Poetics of human rights, and how Syrian prison literature affected her view of human rights
On Tadmor military prison
On censorship, arbitrariness and tanfis in Syria
Arab critics, literature and human rights
Effects of truth
Universality of prison literature
Syrian prison literature and the 2011 revolution
Selective solidarity and global prison abolitionism (US, Iran, Syria)
Also Mentioned:
Faraj Bayrakdar
Human Rights, Inc by Joseph Slaughter
Supreme Court Justices Make a Surprising Proposal in Torture Case
Hasiba Abdelrahman
Mustapha Khalifa
Rosa Yassin Hassan
Malek Daghestani
Ali Abu Dahan
Heba Al-Dabbagh
Tadmor film by Monica Borgmann & Lokman Slim
Memory, violence and fear: Why Lokman Slim’s murder must not be depoliticized - my L'Orient Le Jour piece
Ambiguities of Domination: Politics, Rhetoric, and Symbols in Contemporary Syria by Lisa Wedeen
Miriam Cooke
The Politics of Love: Sexuality, Gender, and Marriage in Syrian Television Drama & Mediating the Uprising: Narratives of Gender and Marriage in Syrian Television Drama by Rebecca Joubin
Nazih Abu Nidal
Ghassan al-Jaba'i
Maher Arrar
'Anticipating' the 2011 Arab Uprisings: Revolutionary Literatures and Political Geographies by Rita Sakr
Recommended Books:
The Shell by Mustafa Khalifa
A Dove in Free Flight by Faraj Bayrakdar
Forced Passages by Dylan Rodríguez

Oct 29, 2021 • 60min
92/ Big Tech, Gatopardismo and Data Colonialism (With Camila Nobrega and Joana Varon)
This is a conversation with Brazilian researchers Camila Nobrega and Joana Varon about their paper for Global Information Society Watch, "Big tech goes green(washing): Feminist lenses to unveil new tools in the master’s houses." Extended bio below.
The research by Nobrega and Varon is part of a report launched by the Association for Progressive Communications. You can find the full report here.
Support: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Website: TheFireThisTi.Me
Twitter + Instagram @ firethesetimes
Topics Discussed:
Power structures, Big Tech and what kind future we want
technosolutionism through feminist lenses
Who has the ability to consent?
Gatopardismo (Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui): proposing 'changes' while reinforcing existing power structures
Monocultures of minds (Vandana Shiva)
What are we sustaining and what are we developing when we talk of 'sustainable development'?
What is 'green data'?
The 'good life' through euro-centrism
Discussion about Brazil
Extractivism and data colonialism
Resources mentioned:
Please visit thefirethisti.me
Recommended Books/Other
A extinção das abelhas by Natalia Borges Polesso (Joana)
Un Mundo Ch'ixi es posible by Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui (Camila)
Amanda Piña (choreographer)
Camila Nobrega is a Brazilian journalist working on social-environmental conflicts for more than ten years, fostering Latin American feminist lenses and social-environmental justice. She has worked for media vehicles in Brazil and has contributed to international media, like The Guardian, Le Monde Diplomatique, and Mongabay. Currently based in Berlin, she is a Ph.D. Candidate in Political Science department at the Free University of Berlin. To connect journalism, academic research, and artistic languages, she develops the project Beyond the Green (https://thenewnew.space/projects/beyond-the-green/), focusing on megaprojects that affect our lives, bodies, and territories. It aims to strengthen narratives that connect the right to communication and land rights. Member of Intervozes collective that struggles for media democratization in Brazil. medium@nobregacamila
Joana Varon is Brazilian, with Colombian ancestry and a nomad heart. She is a feminist researcher and activist focused on bringing decolonial Latin American perspectives in the search of feminist techno-political frameworks for shaping the development, deployment and usages of technologies. As it is a collective search, she is the Founder Directress and Creative Chaos Catalyst at Coding Rights, a women-run organization working to expose and redress the power imbalances built into technology and its application, particularly those that reinforce gender and North/South inequalities. Former Mozilla Media Fellow, Joana is currently a Technology and Human Rights Fellow at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy from Harvard Kennedy School. She is also affiliated to the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University.

Oct 15, 2021 • 1h 18min
91/ Satisfying Human Needs at Low Energy Use (With Jefim Vogel & Julia Steinberger)
This is a conversation with Jefim Vogel of the Sustainability Research Institute at the University of Leeds, and Julia Steinberger of the Institute of Geography and Sustainability at the University of Lausanne, about a paper they worked on entitled "socio-economic conditions for satisfying human needs at low energy use: An international analysis of social provisioning."
Julia is also an author of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 6th Assessment Report, contributing to the report's discussion of climate change mitigation pathways.
Support: Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Website: TheFireThisTi.Me
Twitter + Instagram @ firethesetimes
Topics Discussed
How the major environmental and social crises of our time are interlinked, especially energy use
Meeting basic needs at low energy use
Leapfrogging fairly
Disparities between global North and global South
(Some of) the limits of economic growth
Citizens' assemblies and other examples of ways forward
Living well within limits
Recommended Books:
Jefim's:
Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World by Jason Hickel
Requiem for the American Dream: The 10 Principles of Concentration of Wealth & Power by Noam Chomsky
Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead by Brené Brown
Julia's:
Overheated: How Capitalism Broke the Planet--And How We Fight Back by Kate Aronoff
The Future Earth: A Radical Vision for What's Possible in the Age of Warming by Eric Holthaus
We Make Our Own History: Marxism and Social Movements in the Twilight of Neoliberalism by Laurence Cox & Alf Gunvald Nilsen

Oct 1, 2021 • 1h 10min
90/ The Ecological Paradox of Digital Economies (with Paz Peña)
This is a conversation with Paz Peña, a Chile-based independent consultant and activist, who recently published a paper entitled “Bigger, more, better, faster: The ecological paradox of digital economies” for Global Information Society Watch (GISWatch). The research by Paz Peña is part of a report launched by the Association for Progressive Communications. You can find the full report here.
Topics Discussed:
Digital economies and environmental sustainability
The ecological paradox of dematerialisation
‘Smart cities’ and the Internet of Things (IoT)
The problem with techno-solutionism
Tech in the framework of degrowth and postgrowth
Artificial Intelligence is a feminist issue
Tech isn’t neutral
Recommended Books:
Posthuman Knowledge by Rosi Braidotti
Cómo pensar juntos by Isabelle Strengers
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
I mentioned my article for Shado Mag on the Emotional Case for Postgrowth
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Music by Tarabeat.

Sep 24, 2021 • 1h 55min
89/ Tiananmen, Denialism and History (With Mia Wong)
This is a conversation with Mia Wong, a writer and researcher with Cool Zone Media whose essay "When communists crushed the international workers’ movement" for Lausan was the subject of this conversation.
Get early access + more perks on Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Blog: https://thefirethisti.me
You can follow on Twitter or Instagram @ firethesetimes too.
Topics Discussed:
The Tiananmen massacre in its historical context
The meaning of Tiananmen
How we remember Tiananmen and what we erase
The before and the after
The cost of denialism
Tiananmen/Syria comparisons
Occupying the squares vs occupying the factories
On class identities
How could it have been different?
Aesthetics and politics
Burying the past
On tankies
Recommended Books:
Rhythms of the Pachakuti: Indigenous Uprising and State Power in Bolivia by Raquel Gutiérrez Aguilar
The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy by David Graeber
Carbon Democracy: Political Power in the Age of Oil by Timothy Mitchell
Hatta Shūzō and Pure Anarchism in Interwar Japan by John Crump
+ I recommended Anarchist Modernity: Cooperatism and Japanese-Russian Intellectual Relations in Modern Japan by Sho Konishi

Sep 17, 2021 • 1h 28min
88/ A History of Nothing (With Susan A. Crane)
This is a conversation with Susan A. Crane, author of the book “Nothing Happened: A History“
Get early access + more perks on Patreon.com/firethesetimes
Blog: https://thefirethisti.me
You can follow on Twitter or Instagram @ firethesetimes too.
Topics Discussed:
How do people think of the past?
What does Nothing even mean?
Four expressions of historical consciousness:
1- Nothing Happened
2- Nothing is the Way it Was
3- Nothing has Changed
4- Nothing is Left
How far away does the past have to be before being considered the past?
What the past says about the present
The examples of Germany, Chile, the USA, Spain and Lebanon
When histories become ruin
On biographies and ‘great men’
On ‘objectivity’ and ‘neutrality’ in history
Resources mentioned:
Why Man Creates by Saul Bass
The Death of Luigi Trastulli: Memory and the Event. Form and Meaning in Oral History by Alessandro Portelli
Nostalgia for the light by Patricio Guzmán
History and Memory: For Akiko and Takashige by Rea Tajiri
The mnemonic imagination by Emily Keightley and Michael Pickering
Why Did Ozu Cut To A Vase? by Nerdwriter
Recommended Books
In Memory of Memory by Maria Stepanova, translated by Sasha Dugdale
The Resonance of Unseen Things: Poetics, Power, Captivity, and UFOs in the American Uncanny by Susan Lepselter
Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments: Intimate Histories of Social Upheaval by Saidiya Hartman
A History of Silence: From the Renaissance to the Present Day by Alain Corbin