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Apr 18, 2022 • 1h 46min

245. The Uncomfortable Truth Behind Economic Inequality | Glenn Loury

This episode was recorded on October 12, 2021Dr. Glenn Loury and I discuss the Pareto principle, the economics of inequality, PC culture, climate change, race in America, IQ and The Bell Curve, intelligence vs. wisdom, AA meetings, Christianity, and more.Dr. Glenn Loury is an American economist, academic, and author. In 1982, he became the first African American tenured professor of economics at Harvard. Among Dr. Loury’s published works are The Anatomy of Racial Inequality and Race, Incarceration, & American Values. He was elected president of the Eastern Economics Association in 2013 and received the Bradley Prize in 2022.___________Links___________Dr. Loury’s substack:http://glennloury.substack.comThe Glenn Show: https://youtube.com/channel/UCuEhthcgt1AImOzXPYsMzeQThe Anatomy of Racial Inequality: https://amazon.com/Anatomy-Racial-Inequality-Preface-Lectures/dp/0674260465/ref=asc_df_0674260465/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=519487730108&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=770218243983853108&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019578&hvtargid=pla-1454356324992&psc=1Race, Incarceration, and American Values:https://amazon.com/gp/product/B08BT4WHFG/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2___________Chapters___________[0:00] Intro[01:23] Dr. Loury’s Career[04:38] The Pareto Principle[10:51] Market Failure & Climate Change[11:57] The G Factor (general intelligence factor)[13:45] Why Stephen Jay Gould Is Wrong[17:01] Neuroticism & Divorce[26:06] Race & Incarceration in the US [36:16] Culture & Biology[38:09] The 80/20 Principle[47:20] Openness & Entrepreneurs[49:21] Meaningful Work & Inequality[56:35:] The Bell Curve [01:01:09] Political Correctness around IQ [01:14:58] Dr. Loury's (Shifting) Political Views[01:21:09] Drug Addiction & Spiritual Transformation[01:27:10] Intelligence vs. Wisdom[01:30:16] The Glenn Show[01:35:40] George Floyd 
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Apr 14, 2022 • 1h 41min

244. Asking A Theoretical Physicist About The Physics Of Consciousness | Roger Penrose

Dr. Peterson recently traveled to the UK for a series of lectures at the highly esteemed Universities of Oxford and Cambridge. This conversation was recorded during that period with Sir Roger Penrose, a British mathematical physicist who was awarded the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics for “discovering that black hole formation is a robust predictor of Einstein’s general relativity.” Moderated by Dr. Stephen Blackwood.___________Chapters___________[0:00] Intro[1:00] Is Consciousness Computational?[3:20] Turing Machines[6:30] Determinism & the Arrow of Time[12:15] Consciousness & Reductionism[17:30] Emergent Randomness & Evolution[23:00] The Tiling Problem, Computation, & AI[29:30] Escher, Brains, Bach[39:00] Pattern Recognition & Intuition[45:30] Mathematical Representations & the Physical World[54:00] Collapsing Schrodinger’s Equation[1:00:00] Consciousness-Independent Reality[1:07:00] Black Holes & Time Horizons[1:15:00] Einstein’s Biggest Mistake[1:27:00] Meaning & Consciousness[1:39:00] Hawking Spots: Potential
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Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 28min

243. Quillette's Founder On Starting The Most Controversial Magazine In The World | Claire Lehmann

This episode was recorded on October 29th, 2021.Claire Lehmann and talk about the success of Quillette magazine, left-wing authoritarianism, gender dysphoria, mentorship, stereotypes, social media, ingroup preference, moral reasoning, aggressive empathy, and more.Claire Lehmann is the founding editor of Quillette magazine. She works with journalists whose kind of content or views make finding a platform difficult. Quillette has published exciting articles by Coleman Hughes, Rav Arora, Rob Henderson, and Kevin Mims—to name a few.________________Find more from Claire Lehmann on Twitter: https://twitter.com/clairlemonInstagram: https://instagram.com/clairelehmannTake a peek at Quillette itself: https://quillette.com/Other links: https://linktr.ee/clairelehmann________________Chapters________________[0:00] Intro[0:54] What Is Quillette?[6:39] Political Leanings & Staying Centered[11:44] Mentorship Relationships[15:18] Social Challenges[20:19] Claire & Quillette’s Success[26:13] Left-wing Authoritarianism I[31:04] Stereotype Accuracy Research[33:36] Left-wing Authoritarianism II[35:51] Social Media & Unification[44:35] Barrier Effects in Human Aggression[51:43] Social Media & Wildfire Ideas[58:12] Memes & Gender Dysphoria[1:05:27] Media Pressure[1:09:09] Quillette’s Growth Pattern[1:12:39] Behind Reading Demographics[1:17:07] Aggressive Empathy & Moral Reasoning[1:24:49] Outro#Authoritarianism #Media #Gender #SocialMedia #Quillette #Journalism
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Apr 7, 2022 • 1h 32min

242. Solving The Problem Of Human Perception | Cambridge

In November 2021, Dr. Peterson traveled to the United Kingdom to give a series of lectures at Oxford and Cambridge. This lecture was given at Lady Mitchell Hall at the University of Cambridge on November 23rd, 2021.Dr. Peterson gives an in-depth exploration of the problem of perception. In doing so, he touches on orienting reflexes, artificial intelligence, the infinite possibilities parsed by perception, neurophysiology, postmodernism, and the relationship between imitation, awe, and the divine, before answering questions from the audience about the direction of Western civilization, meaning, and the notion of humans as simple biological machines._______________Chapters_______________[0:00] Intro[1:30] Dr. James Orr Welcomes Dr. Peterson to Cambridge[6:30] The Problem of Perception[8:30] The Orienting Reflex[12:30] The Neuropsychology of Anxiety by Jeffrey Gray [14:30] Perception, Sokolov, & Artificial Intelligence[17:30] Infinity in Perception[22:30] Embodied AI[24:10] Utilization Behavior[27:20] Neurophysiology & Postmodernism[31:15] Dominance Hierarchies[37:40] Basis of Perception[39:30] The Problem of Perception & Wagner’s ‘Master-Singers of Nuremberg’[49:40] Cambridge, Two Chapels, & Primordial Environments[51:10] On Imitation & Awe[59:40] Divine Perception[1:00:00] Q&A: Where is Western society headed?[1:08:50] Does consciousness die with the body? Is meaning—like the universe—doomed? [1:13:00] What is meaning? And its source?[1:17:55] Existence, Hardware, & Divine Imitation#Attention #Perception #AI #Meaning #Consciousness
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Apr 4, 2022 • 1h 18min

241. How Anti-Racism Is Hurting Black America | John McWhorter

This episode was recorded on September 27th, 2021.Dr. Jordan Peterson and John McWhorter exchange ideas on the field of linguistics, how language affects our worldview, music, children’s capacity to learn languages, race problems in the US, virtue signaling, wokeism, Chomsky’s universal grammar, and more.John Mcwhorter is an associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University. Professor McWhorter is an author of more than a dozen books including ‘The Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language,’ ‘Losing the Race: Self Sabotage in Black America’ and ‘Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold History of English.’ He’s also a regular contributor to publications like The New Republic and The Atlantic.Follow John McWhorter: https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorterCheck out his new book: https://amazon.com/Woke-Racism-Religion-Betrayed-America/dp/0593423062And his article ‘The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility:’https://theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/___________Chapters___________[0:00] Intro[1:30] Linguistics Overview[3:30] Language Acquisition in Children[11:00] Language & Worldview[16:00] Division, People, & Culture[17:00] On Music[19:10] “Music is often regarded as a nonrepresentational art form” - John McWhorter[26:00] The Nature of American Studies[28:30] Outline of McWhorter's Career[32:00] Race in America I[35:45] John’s New Book On Woke Racism[45:30] Musical Theater, Reality, & Religion[52:00] Wokeism & Postmodernism[57:00] Woke Upbringing[1:00:45] Race in America II[1:03:30] Virtue Signaling[1:09:45] “Are All White People Racist?”[1:15:00] Outro#Linguistics #Race #Chomsky #UniversalGrammar #Wokeism
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Mar 31, 2022 • 1h 30min

240. Why Free Speech is the Antidote to Ignorance and Corruption | Cambridge University Speech

Recorded at Caius College on November 22, 2021.Dr. Peterson recently traveled to the UK for a series of lectures at the highly esteemed Universities of Oxford and Cambridge. This was the first of said lectures.After some remarks on Cambridge’s beauty and rich history, Dr. Peterson examines the significance and history of clinical psychology. Drawing from the likes of Carl Rogers, Freud, Maslow, and Jung, this lecture investigates free speech, the value of structure, ways to approach mental illness, Jordan’s clinical experience, active listening, relationships, and the golden rule for conflict management.// SHOWNOTES //[0:00] Intro[1:30] Start of speech[3:10] Dr. Peterson reflects on the beauty and integrity of the University of Cambridge and the effort by Dr. Orr to make the talk about free speech possible[4:20] How studying clinicians Carl Jung, Carl Rogers, Maslow, and others helped Dr. Peterson both professionally and personally[6:20] Dr. Peterson stresses the importance of being an active speaker as well as an active listener, and explains how Freud “let people reveal themselves to themselves”[12:30] Dr. Peterson’s approach as a formally-trained cognitive-behavioral psychologist and conflict resolution advice for people who are in an intimate relationship[16:10] Dr. Peterson describes Carl Roger’s technique as it relates to conflict management[23:00] The importance of having an overarching structure that unites a family for peace and harmony within a household[26:00] Dr. Peterson explains why “free speech is not the freedom or right among many”
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Mar 28, 2022 • 1h 36min

239. ANTIFA: The Rise of the Violent Left | Andy Ngo

This episode was recorded on November 8th, 2021Andy Ngo is an independent journalist and photographer who lives under constant threats for his reporting and expertise on American Antifa and the militant far-left. He has testified before the U.S. Congress, appeared on countless TV shows, radio programs, and podcasts, and has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Newsweek, Fox News, National Review, and more. Andy is currently the editor-at-large at the Post Millennial.In this episode, I discuss Andy’s experiences with Antifa, race riots, autonomous zones, and the ‘summer of love’ in Seattle. We also exchanged thoughts on the psychology of mob violence, journalistic integrity, dealing with criticism, using people for political ends, attempts to destabilize the police, and lots more.Check out Ngo’s new bookhttps://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Antifas-Radical-Destroy-Democracy/dp/154605958X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1643921778&sr=1-2Take the ‘Understand Myself’ personality questionnairehttps://understandmyself.com___________Chapters___________[00:00] Jordan introduces Andy Ngo[01:10] When Jordan & Andy first met and Jordan's imaginary enemies[02:08] Race riots and the existence of Antifa[04:19] Andy Ngo's experience with Antifa[07:58] The problem with conceptualizing Antifa[14:29] What motivates legacy media to minimize Antifa?[16:08] Was there a time Andy ever thought the stakes were high enough he violated his journalistic integrity?[19:44] How does Andy know he's not exaggerating the threat?[20:53] "They believe that no act they commit can go too far." AN[21:05] "Imagine that you are so virtuous in your pursuits that you are entitled to do anything to anyone whenever you want." JBP[22:19] "It's this moral license that goes along with this claim of virtue that really scares the hell out of, and it's also the fact that you can instantly demonize your enemies because if you're so virtuous that everything is justified, then anyone who opposes you is virtually Satan themselves." JBP[22:43] Story of a Minnesota mob kicking someone's teeth in[25:55] The Psychology of mob violence[27:17] How does he know he's not an exaggerating threat[31:18] Destabilizing the police[31:49] Is it helpful to categorize radicals either left or right?[36:41] The "summer of love" in Seattle[41:07] The gang members who came out at night[41:25] Stories of the autonomous zones[47:04] Instrumentality and using people to achieve a goal[48:04] "We've got to get rid of this idea that we can use people for an end; I don't care what the damn end is."[48:32] How destabilized have these cities become because of this?[51:19] The Minnesota Freedom Fund[52:58] Criticisms of Andy Ngo[54:34] How he knows the Minnesota Freedom Fund wants to abolish the criminal justice system, what are they doing wrong by bailing these people out, and how he knows it linked to an ideology.[56:57] "The system gets sloppy and self-congratulatory as we move toward statements like, the system is broken."[58:21] What do we do about the large incrimination of Americans, including a disproportionate number of them African Americans?[01:03:05] Wading through the accusations of the freedom fund being far left and Andy being far-right[01:04:33] James O'Keefe and Project Veritas[01:06:32] Andy's connection to Portland's militant right-wing and far-right-wing groups.[01:12:38] How many times he's been beaten up and why he kept going on.[01:18:52] Minnesota Freedom Fund cont. Who are they getting out on bail, and why do they think it's a good idea?[01:24:08] Jordan refers to a part of Andy's book that addresses a comment made by Kamala Harris
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Mar 25, 2022 • 55min

238. Bill 67 is Dangerous for Canada | Rex Murphy

This episode was recorded on March 15th, 2022.Rex Murphy and I discuss Canadian bill 67, which purports to be nothing but an "anti-racist" bill but is in fact the most pernicious piece of legislation that Canadian governance has tried to push since bill C-16.Rex Murphy is a Canadian commentator and author who deals primarily with Canadian political and social matters. He is best known for hosting CBC Radio 1’s Cross Country Checkup and writing for The National Post. Rex is a very well recognized and loved figure in Canada.Find more Rex Murphy:Rex’s National Post Column - https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-new-dogmas-infecting-our-education-systemCanada and Other Matters of Opinion by Rex Murphy: https://amazon.com/gp/product/B0031TZBP6/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0Related Episodes:-Kill Bill (67): https://youtube.com/watch?v=fogGeB8YmnQ-Warning - Bill 67: https://youtu.be/iwQy-MVP4u0___________Chapters___________[0:00] Intro[1:30] Education & Dogma[2:00] Related Podcasts (links above)[6:10] Why Education Matters[9:20] Is Bill 67 Anything but Ideology?[12:00] Bias Training[19:00] Racial Equity, Judgment, & Power[24:00] Teachers, Bill 67, & "Anti-racism Awareness"[28:00] Nadia Murad, Disinvited from Speaking in Toronto[32:30] Diversity & Inclusión Programs[36:20] Bill 67 & Affirmative Action[42:30] Alleged Offenses[46:10] Potential Long-term Consequences[50:40] An Example[53:40] Outro#Politics #RexMurphy #Canada #Bill67 #Ideology #Education
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Mar 23, 2022 • 1h 43min

237. Your Dark Side and Control Over Your Life | Robert Greene

This episode was recorded on November 11, 2021.This episode focuses on human nature and the principles surrounding strategy, power, and seduction with Robert Greene. We also discuss the motivations behind power, deceptive strategies, Robert’s many jobs before settling as an author, psychopathy, manipulation, agreeableness, feeling guilt over being ambitious, channeling your shadow, and much more.Robert Greene is the author of the NY Times bestsellers The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law, Mastery, & The Laws of Human Nature. Robert has had over 80 different jobs and is considered an international expert on power strategies. On top of a strong following in the business world and Washington DC, Greene’s books are hailed by everyone from war historians to musicians like Jay-Z, Drake, and 50 Cent.Follow Robert’s blog: https://powerseductionandwar.comHis Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobertGreeneInstagram: https://instagram.com/RobertGreeneOfficial& check out his books at: https://amazon.com/Robert-Greene/e/B001IGV3IS%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share__________Chapters__________[00:00] Intro[02:58] Power, Motivation, & Manipulation[08:34] Deceptive Strategies[11:26] Robert’s Career[15:02] When to Change Jobs[17:37] Greene's Motivation & Personality[22:50] Great Manipulators[24:46] The Mask of Agreeableness & Psychopathy[30:43] Harsh Real World[34:50] Music Industry[38:02] Integrating Our Shadow[45:45] Guilt Over Ambition[50:36] Resentment & the Psyche.[58:03] Conflict & Growth[01:03:31] Partnership with 50 Cent[01:10:39] Channeling Our Shadow & Productivity[01:14:46] The Sublime, Pleasure, & Pain[01:22:04] Pagans & the Sublime[01:25:12] Today’s Writing & the Miracle of Reality[01:30:20] The Meaning of Music[01:34:13] Outro[01:36:14] Bonus Discussion with Our Producer Eric#Power #RobertGreene #DarkTriad #Writing #Motivation #Manipulation
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Mar 17, 2022 • 1h 9min

236. How to Use Reading and Writing to Find Your Path

As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following:• All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free• Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions)• Presale access to events• Premium, detailed show notes for future episodesSign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com/This is part 3 of the Narrative, Story, and Writing compilation, the first two parts have been released over the last few months. In this episode, Jordan spoke to best-selling author Tim Ferriss, comedian Theo Von and actor Matthew McConaughey. We also included a few clips from dad’s lectures. This is the first of the compilations to be put up on Youtube, so if you want to see the video, it’s available on our YouTube channel. 

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