

The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 33min
Productivity: The Future of Brain Health with Dr. Sabina Brennan | POP 1216
Which neuroscience strategies best boost brain health to achieve your dreams? How can you move from brain fog to clarity? What’s the hidden power of your thoughts?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Sabina Brennan about brain optimization, attention vs. manifesting, and practical steps for improving mental clarity, productivity, and well-being.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 30min
Mindfulness: The Future of Addiction Treatment with Britt Frank, LSCSW, SEP | POP 1215
How can self-dialogue transform addiction recovery? How does understanding the story beneath addictive behaviors foster compassion and lasting change?
Joe Sanok talks with Britt Frank, LSCSW, SEP about rethinking addiction treatment, using parts-work, and aligning the mind to support true healing.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 42min
HPM: Peak Performance with Kobe Bryant’s Performance Coach Todd Herman | POP 1214
Which strategies help you reach peak performance? Why shift from obsession to stamina, and can this change transform success into something sustainable?
Joe Sanok talks with Todd Herman - Kobe Bryant’s performance coach - about stamina, purpose-driven success, and building lasting momentum in life and business.
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Jun 3, 2025 • 52min
Productivity: The Future of Listening with Greg McKeown | POP 1213
In this discussion, author Greg McKeown, known for his New York Times bestsellers Essentialism and Effortless, shares insights on prioritizing what truly matters in life. He delves into the art of deeper listening, highlighting its transformative impact on relationships. The conversation also touches on intergenerational connections, advocating for mindful legacy planning. Greg emphasizes empathetic listening as a tool for shifting mindsets and fostering meaningful interactions across both personal and professional realms.

May 29, 2025 • 35min
Mindfulness: How to Use Polyvagal Theory to Treat Trauma with Dr. Arielle Schwartz | POP 1212
What role does polyvagal theory play in therapy? How can it help us understand the mind-body connection and transform trauma recovery?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Arielle Schwartz about the vagus nerve, nervous system regulation, and practical exercises for healing PTSD and complex trauma through applied polyvagal theory.
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May 28, 2025 • 34min
Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and NonMonogamy with Jessica Fern | POP 1211
How can understanding attachment trauma improve relationships? What tools support thriving in non-monogamous partnerships? How can people navigate non-monogamy without causing harm?
Joe Sanok talks with Jessica Fern about Polysecure, emotional safety, secure attachments, and the HEARTS framework for healthy open relationships.
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May 27, 2025 • 28min
Productivity: Resilience Research with Retired Special Operations Doctor Dan Pronk | POP 1210
What tools can help you build resilience in high-stress professions? How can you use a “resilience shield” to thrive under pressure? What daily strategies best protect mental health?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Dan Pronk, former Special Forces doctor and resilience expert, about stress management, mental toughness, and habits for lasting resilience.
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May 22, 2025 • 36min
Mindfulness: Top 5 Most Cited Clinical Psychologist in the World Dr. Steven C. Hayes | POP 1209
How can therapists balance evidence-based practices with unique client needs? What role will technology and personalization play in future-proofing therapy? What do we need to know about the process of change for better outcomes?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Steven C. Hayes, creator of ACT, about tailoring therapy and advancing mental healthcare.
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May 21, 2025 • 32min
TIME Magazine Named Dr. Alan Roth a Guardian of Healthcare | POP 1208
How can we fix America’s healthcare system to focus on true healing? Why must medicine shift from numbers to relationships, and how can we redefine wellness and success in care?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Alan Roth—TIME-featured physician and healthcare reform advocate—on transforming medicine into patient-centered, preventive care.
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May 20, 2025 • 40min
Productivity: Are You Feeding Your Brain Enough Creativity? With Todd Henry | POP 1207
How do you unlock your creative potential at work? Why is creativity essential for innovative problem-solving in any profession?
Joe Sanok speaks with bestselling author Todd Henry about daily practices to fuel creativity, overcome mental blocks, and thrive as a problem-solver in fast-paced environments.
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