

The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Mar 20, 2025 • 35min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Improving Your Nervous System with Dr. Lori Desautels | POP 1182
What is the role of the nervous system in mental wellness? How does understanding neuroplasticity transform mental wellness in education and parenting? What are some tools that you can use […]
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Mar 19, 2025 • 33min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Healthy Sexuality with Alexandra Katehakis, Ph.D | POP 1181
How can we navigate the complexities of modern sexuality? How can couples talk about sex in their relationships without shame or embarrassment? What has been the impact on modern sex […]
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Mar 18, 2025 • 31min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Overcoming Self Betrayal with Ilene Smith | POP 1180
What do we need to understand about the roots of self-betrayal? How do you unmask self-sabotage and betrayal, the hidden saboteur of your life? Which are some of the best […]
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Mar 13, 2025 • 31min
Better Mental Wellness Series: How to Work with Highly Sensitive People with April Snow | POP 1179
Which are some of the best practical tips for supporting highly sensitive children and partners? How can highly sensitive people unlock their superpowers? What must therapists know about working with […]
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Mar 12, 2025 • 32min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Rethinking Autism in Therapy with Dr. Sean Inderbitzen | POP 1178
How does the dual nature of autism bring both challenges and strengths to therapy? Which tools and techniques can empower therapists who work with autistic clients? What are some of […]
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Mar 11, 2025 • 42min
Better Mental Wellness Series: How Can You Break Free from Chronic Pain? With Nicole Sachs, LCSW | POP 1177
What should you understand about your nervous system and its role in chronic pain? Which big secrets teach you how to heal chronic pain through mind-body medicine? Can physical ailments […]
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Mar 6, 2025 • 35min
Better Mental Wellness Series: The Research and Practice of Deeper Mindfulness with Dr. Danny Penman | POP 1176
Can mindfulness truly transform your life? What does science reveal about its effectiveness? How can you start practicing it today to reduce stress and improve well-being?
In this Better Mental Wellness Series episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Dr. Danny Penman—award-winning journalist, meditation teacher, and bestselling author—about the research behind mindfulness, practical meditation techniques, and how daily mindfulness can help you stay grounded and resilient in the face of life’s challenges.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 32min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Pioneering the Science Behind Self-Compassion with Dr. Kristin Neff | POP 1175
How can self-compassion protect therapists from burnout and restore balance in private practice? What’s the difference between “fierce” and “tender” self-compassion? How can you navigate the emotional “backdraft” that can surface when practicing self-kindness?
In this Better Mental Wellness episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Dr. Kristin Neff—pioneering self-compassion researcher and author—about using self-compassion as a tool for resilience, emotional healing, and sustainable therapy practice.
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Mar 4, 2025 • 37min
Better Mental Wellness Series: Exploring Psychedelic Assisted Therapy with Researcher Jason Luoma | POP 1174
How can science and spirituality intersect to transform mental health care through psychedelic-assisted therapy? Why are MDMA and psilocybin producing such rapid, profound changes in psychotherapy?
In this Better Mental Wellness episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Dr. Jason Luoma - clinical psychologist, researcher, and ACT trainer - about the latest research on psychedelics, their therapeutic potential, safe clinical applications, and the future of this evolving field.
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Feb 27, 2025 • 26min
Marketing Month: Growing through Instagram and Writing for Vogue with Alyssa Mancao | POP 1173
How can you use your unique specialty outside the counseling room to attract new clients and grow your practice? What’s the right balance between marketing and managing growth? How do you successfully pitch your expertise to top publications like Vogue?
In this Marketing Month episode of Better Mental Wellness, Joe Sanok speaks with therapist and group practice owner Alyssa Lia Mancao about Instagram growth, creating engaging scripts that resonate with clients, managing sustainable expansion, and crafting standout pitches to major media outlets.
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