The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
Episodes
Mentioned books
May 15, 2025 • 38min
Mindfulness: What We Get Wrong with Trauma and the Nervous System with Dr. Frank Anderson | POP 1206
Why is empowering clients the greatest shift in trauma therapy? What role does neuroscience play in rewiring the brain for healing? Why is client agency crucial for lasting recovery?
Joe Sanok talks with trauma expert Dr. Frank Anderson on redefining therapy, integrating neuroscience, and guiding clients toward self-directed healing.
The post Mindfulness: What We Get Wrong with Trauma and the Nervous System with Dr. Frank Anderson | POP 1206 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 14, 2025 • 35min
The Future of Dying with Dr. Ira Byock | POP 1205
How can we talk openly about death and dying? What role do forgiveness and connection play in end-of-life care? How can facing mortality transform fear into deeper meaning?
Joe Sanok speaks with palliative care pioneer Dr. Ira Byock about shifting cultural views on dying, psychedelics in care, and the four things that matter most.
The post The Future of Dying with Dr. Ira Byock | POP 1205 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 13, 2025 • 38min
Productivity: Learning How to Learn with Dr. Barbara Oakley | POP 1204
What’s the science behind altruism - and why can good intentions sometimes cause harm? How can therapists “learn to learn” and better support clients?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Barbara Oakley about retrieval practice, pathological altruism, empathy vs. sympathy, and strategies to balance compassion with effectiveness in counseling.
The post Productivity: Learning How to Learn with Dr. Barbara Oakley | POP 1204 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 8, 2025 • 33min
Mindfulness: Changing the Mind-Body Relationship with Dr. Sula Windgassen | POP 1203
How can understanding the mind-body connection transform your health? Which strategies are the best for overcoming people-pleasing and enhancing body awareness? What are the practical tips that clients and therapists […]
The post Mindfulness: Changing the Mind-Body Relationship with Dr. Sula Windgassen | POP 1203 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 7, 2025 • 36min
Krista St-Germain’s Husband was Killed by a Drunk Driver | POP 1202
How can we embrace grief without comparison? How can you, as a therapist, compassionately embrace discomfort to support your grieving clients effectively? Why is having a community in healing so […]
The post Krista St-Germain’s Husband was Killed by a Drunk Driver | POP 1202 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 6, 2025 • 34min
Productivity: Get Better at Anything with Scott H. Young | POP 1201
How can private practitioners master the art of learning for success? What’s the process of unlocking your learning potential to transform your practice and yourself? Where should you focus your […]
The post Productivity: Get Better at Anything with Scott H. Young | POP 1201 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
May 1, 2025 • 31min
Mindfulness: Drama Helps You Avoid Trauma with Holistic Psychologist Dr. Scott Lyons | POP 1200
Have you ever felt that you could be addicted to drama? What should you know about understanding, breaking, and healing the cycle of crisis and chaos? How does unregulated or […]
The post Mindfulness: Drama Helps You Avoid Trauma with Holistic Psychologist Dr. Scott Lyons | POP 1200 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
Apr 30, 2025 • 26min
How to Prep for the Group Practice Boss Conference | POP 1199
Heading to the Group Practice Boss Conference—or still deciding? Joe Sanok shares tips for preparing, setting goals, networking, and making the most of the event. Hear about the schedule, speakers, and post-conference connections, plus practical travel advice to maximize your conference experience.
The post How to Prep for the Group Practice Boss Conference | POP 1199 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
Apr 29, 2025 • 29min
Practice Metrics that Matter with Tory Krone and Madeline Larsen | POP 1198
Why does measuring your metrics transform your practice for the better? Can making data-driven decisions boost your private practice’s success? What is the role of metrics in enhancing client care […]
The post Practice Metrics that Matter with Tory Krone and Madeline Larsen | POP 1198 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
Apr 24, 2025 • 36min
More Than Marketing: The Secret to Keeping Clients Coming Back with Vance Morris | POP 1197
What are some of the best strategies for enhancing client experience and loyalty in therapy? How do you make a great first impression that will leave a lasting impression? What’s […]
The post More Than Marketing: The Secret to Keeping Clients Coming Back with Vance Morris | POP 1197 appeared first on How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice.
