The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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May 29, 2025 • 35min
Mindfulness: How to Use Polyvagal Theory to Treat Trauma with Dr. Arielle Schwartz | POP 1212
What role does polyvagal theory play in therapy? How can it help us understand the mind-body connection and transform trauma recovery?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Arielle Schwartz about the vagus nerve, nervous system regulation, and practical exercises for healing PTSD and complex trauma through applied polyvagal theory.
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May 28, 2025 • 34min
Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and NonMonogamy with Jessica Fern | POP 1211
How can understanding attachment trauma improve relationships? What tools support thriving in non-monogamous partnerships? How can people navigate non-monogamy without causing harm?
Joe Sanok talks with Jessica Fern about Polysecure, emotional safety, secure attachments, and the HEARTS framework for healthy open relationships.
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May 27, 2025 • 28min
Productivity: Resilience Research with Retired Special Operations Doctor Dan Pronk | POP 1210
What tools can help you build resilience in high-stress professions? How can you use a “resilience shield” to thrive under pressure? What daily strategies best protect mental health?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Dan Pronk, former Special Forces doctor and resilience expert, about stress management, mental toughness, and habits for lasting resilience.
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May 22, 2025 • 36min
Mindfulness: Top 5 Most Cited Clinical Psychologist in the World Dr. Steven C. Hayes | POP 1209
How can therapists balance evidence-based practices with unique client needs? What role will technology and personalization play in future-proofing therapy? What do we need to know about the process of change for better outcomes?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Steven C. Hayes, creator of ACT, about tailoring therapy and advancing mental healthcare.
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May 21, 2025 • 32min
TIME Magazine Named Dr. Alan Roth a Guardian of Healthcare | POP 1208
How can we fix America’s healthcare system to focus on true healing? Why must medicine shift from numbers to relationships, and how can we redefine wellness and success in care?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Alan Roth—TIME-featured physician and healthcare reform advocate—on transforming medicine into patient-centered, preventive care.
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May 20, 2025 • 40min
Productivity: Are You Feeding Your Brain Enough Creativity? With Todd Henry | POP 1207
How do you unlock your creative potential at work? Why is creativity essential for innovative problem-solving in any profession?
Joe Sanok speaks with bestselling author Todd Henry about daily practices to fuel creativity, overcome mental blocks, and thrive as a problem-solver in fast-paced environments.
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May 15, 2025 • 38min
Mindfulness: What We Get Wrong with Trauma and the Nervous System with Dr. Frank Anderson | POP 1206
Why is empowering clients the greatest shift in trauma therapy? What role does neuroscience play in rewiring the brain for healing? Why is client agency crucial for lasting recovery?
Joe Sanok talks with trauma expert Dr. Frank Anderson on redefining therapy, integrating neuroscience, and guiding clients toward self-directed healing.
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May 14, 2025 • 35min
The Future of Dying with Dr. Ira Byock | POP 1205
How can we talk openly about death and dying? What role do forgiveness and connection play in end-of-life care? How can facing mortality transform fear into deeper meaning?
Joe Sanok speaks with palliative care pioneer Dr. Ira Byock about shifting cultural views on dying, psychedelics in care, and the four things that matter most.
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May 13, 2025 • 38min
Productivity: Learning How to Learn with Dr. Barbara Oakley | POP 1204
What’s the science behind altruism - and why can good intentions sometimes cause harm? How can therapists “learn to learn” and better support clients?
Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Barbara Oakley about retrieval practice, pathological altruism, empathy vs. sympathy, and strategies to balance compassion with effectiveness in counseling.
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May 8, 2025 • 33min
Mindfulness: Changing the Mind-Body Relationship with Dr. Sula Windgassen | POP 1203
How can understanding the mind-body connection transform your health? Which strategies are the best for overcoming people-pleasing and enhancing body awareness? What are the practical tips that clients and therapists […]
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