The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
Episodes
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Jan 21, 2025 • 31min
Mindfulness, Chocolate, and a Unified Framework for Psychotherapy – Insights from Dr. Diane Gehart | POP 1156
How can therapists move beyond jargon to focus on what truly works? What can chocolate teach us about mindfulness and savoring life’s moments? Which habits make clinicians highly effective?
In this episode, Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Diane Gehart about her unifying psychotherapy framework, chocolate-infused mindfulness, and practical ways therapists can elevate their practice.
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Jan 16, 2025 • 34min
Even Better Year Series: Creating Evidence-Based Content for Your Clients with Rebecca Dekker Ph.D. | POP 1155
How can clinicians overcome perfectionism when creating evidence-based content? What strategies help repurpose clinical expertise into impactful resources for a wider audience? And how can practice owners grow their business while maintaining balance and sustainability?
In this episode, Joe Sanok talks with Rebecca Dekker, Ph.D., founder of Evidence Based Birth, about embracing “done is better than perfect,” transforming clinical knowledge into educational tools, and building a sustainable practice that supports both professional impact and personal well-being.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 34min
Even Better Year Series: Breaking the Vase – Forgiveness, Healing, and Empowerment; lessons from Diwa Ghawi | POP 1154
How does radical acceptance and forgiveness transform your life? Have societal or family expectations held you back? Can self-forgiveness unlock self-discovery?
In this Even Better Year episode, Joe Sanok talks with Dima Ghawi about her journey from Jordan, escaping DV, and finding healing and leadership through self-forgiveness and resilience.
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Jan 14, 2025 • 35min
Even Better Year Series: Building a Practice with Court Mandated Referrals – advice from Derek Collins | POP 1153
How can therapists succeed with court-mandated classes? Can you truly thrive running this type of practice, and what’s the best way to market it?
In this Even Better Year episode, Joe Sanok talks with Derek Collins about misconceptions, structuring programs, and marketing strategies for building a profitable court-mandated referral practice.
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Jan 9, 2025 • 42min
Even Better Year Series: AI-Driven Progress Notes: Cutting Time, Boosting Compliance with Elisabeth Morray and Ted Faneuff | POP 1152
Are progress notes taking too much time? Why do therapists dread writing them? Can AI make notes faster and more personalized?
In this Even Better Year episode, Joe Sanok talks with Elisabeth Morray and Ted Faneuff about therapist anxiety around documentation, how AI can streamline progress notes, and ways to balance compliance with individualized client care.
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Jan 7, 2025 • 32min
Even Better Year Series: Is Virtual Reality the Future of Sexual Health Treatment? Insights from Dr. Lori Brotto | POP 1150
TRIGGER WARNING: This episodes contains a discussion of sexual assault How can your approach to sexual health transform the way you connect with clients? What challenges are younger generations facing […]
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Jan 2, 2025 • 34min
Even Better Year Series: How to Rewire Your Mind and Achieve Peak Performance – the Alex Howard Approach | POP 1149
How can you grow your practice without losing your purpose—or yourself in the process? In this episode, Joe Sanok talks with Alex Howard about turning personal struggles into a mission-driven business, scaling sustainably, adapting to an online model, leading effectively, and maintaining balance to avoid burnout.
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Jan 1, 2025 • 38min
Even Better Year Series: Mindshift: Transform Leadership, Drive Innovation, and Reshape the Future with Brian Solis | POP 1148
How can mental health practitioners continue to thrive in a tech-driven world? What is the intersection between curiosity, AI, and leadership in private practices? Why should you work with AI instead of against it?
In this episode, Joe Sanok talks with Brian Solis about futurism, digital anthropology, and how AI can help mental health professionals innovate and grow sustainably.
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Dec 31, 2024 • 20min
Ashley Mielke’s 7-Part Series: Envisioning Your Ideal Practice Sale | POP 1147
What is your best-case practice sales scenario? How can you dedicate yourself to that journey? How does envisioning your best-case sale make the process easier—even before it starts?
In Part 7 of her series, Ashley Mielke shares how visualizing your ideal practice sale brings clarity, aligns decisions with your intentions, and sets the stage for a successful transition.
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Dec 26, 2024 • 44min
Ashley Mielke’s 7-Part Series: Jennie Ward’s Private Practice Sale | POP 1146
Are you feeling a pull to pursue your career beyond the confines of your private practice? Has there been a new professional passion that you want to dive into and […]
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