

People Property Place
Matthew Watts
Interviewing the leaders shaping the real estate investment management industry. Hosted by Matthew Watts, Founder of Rockbourne.
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
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Jan 11, 2024 • 57min
#55 Ashley Perry, Investment Director at Apache Capital
Ashley Perry - Investment Director at Apache Capital. Ashley is responsible for supporting the Apache’s Multi Family BTR platforms, where he is focused on origination of new investment opportunities and driving growth across the business. He takes a key lead with development and investment partners on deal & market analysis, underwriting and transactions. Prior to this he worked at Cortland Consult as a Director in their BTR consultancy, and JLL latterly as a Senior Project Manager. As well as his day job Ashley is the vice chair of the UKAA Investor-Lender Forum and sits on the ULI UK Residential Council Leadership Group. I sat down with Ashley to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Early career moves Who lives in build to rent assets What is SFH vs MFH Leveraging tech & data Urban Land Institute What can we learn from international markets Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Ashey invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com/

Jan 4, 2024 • 56min
#54 Catherine Webster, CEO of Thriving Investments
Catherine Webster - CEO of Thriving Investments. Formerly known as PfP Capital, Thriving Investments is a leading fund manager with a social conscience. The business already manages three living strategies totalling £700m and so far it has acquired and delivered 3,500 private rented sector and for-sale homes and has six regeneration projects under way, as it targets 20,000 homes over the next decade. Prior to joining Thriving Investments Catherine was an Executive Director – Strategy & Investment at Quintain and has previously held roles at Hudson Advisors and Lehman Brothers among others. Catherine has an MBA from INSEAD and is a graduate of the University of Reading. I sat down with Catherine to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How she got into real estate * Working across surveying, banking & private equity * Not being afraid to take a backward / sideways career move * Skill stacking * Turning capital wins into community gains * Advice for those early in their career * Building 20,000 homes in the next decade Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Catherine invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

Dec 21, 2023 • 1h 1min
#53 Rebekah Tobias, Managing Director at MARCOL
Rebekah Tobias - Managing Director at MARCOL. MARCOL is a family office and private investment group where Rebekah is responsible for introducing new business growth initiatives, platform strategies and investor relationships (JV and co-invest partners) across a range of sectors in real estate, private equity and venture capital. She is also the Founder of Independence Ventures, a consulting firm providing strategic advice on operational real estate platforms. Previously she has held senior roles at M7 Real Estate, Cushman & Wakefield and CBRE in capital markets, investor relations and capital raising. I sat down with Rebekah to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How she got into real estate * Moving from the brokerage to principal side * Setting up operating businesses * Returning to work post maternity leave * Thriving in chaos * Self Storage * Deploying US capital into the UK / Europe * Believing in the product you are raising money for Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Rebekah invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR

Dec 14, 2023 • 53min
#52 Patrick O’Gorman, CEO and shareholder Bywater Properties
Patrick O’Gorman - CEO and Shareholder Bywater Properties. Bywater is a best in class, B Corp, sustainability driven Investor and Developer who are fully committed to investing everything from their energy, time and own money to deliver exceptional urban projects with lasting city-scale impact and strong returns for their co-investors. Patrick has had an incredibly successful career having transacted over £1bn worth of real estate as both principal and consultant. At 26 years old he was the youngest European director for CBRE as Head of Capital Markets in Central & Eastern Europe. I sat down with Patrick to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Moving to Central Eastern Europe The evolution of the Bywater business model Balancing profit & purpose Launch of a new residential strategy Collective team value alignment Timber construction Becoming B Corp Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Patrick would invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below to get listening 🎧 👇🏻 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

Dec 7, 2023 • 58min
#51 Alexa Baden Powell, Senior Investment Manager at GPE
Alexa Baden Powell – Senior Investment Manager at GPE. At the time of recording Alexa has been with the business for just over 6 years and day to day she is responsible for the entire cycle of deal origination, underwriting, due diligence, and transaction execution. Prior to GPE she worked at AXA Investment Managers as a Senior Transactions Manager and started her property career at BNP Paribas.Alexa is also the co-founder of WIN – the Women’s Investment Network which she set up just over a year ago with Ella Johnson. I sat down with Alexa to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into real estate Moving to the client side Breaking down what an Investment Manager actually does What makes a good investment manager The central London office market WIN - Women’s Investment Network Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Alexa invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com/

Nov 30, 2023 • 1h 7min
#50 Robert Wolstenholme, Founder of Trilogy Real Estate LLP
Robert Wolstenholme Founder of Trilogy Real Estate LLP Trilogy is a UK-focused investment and development management business Robert set up in 2015. He is a charismatic, creative and ideas-driven founder and a top thought leader in the education and innovation real estate space.He started his career at JLL before moving to Resolution Property where he held the title of Investment Director. Robert has a degree in Architecture from the Bartlett School of Architecture, UCL and a qualification in Chartered Surveying (MRICS), as well as a diploma in Finance from the Securities Institute. I sat down with Robert to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Why the business is called Trilogy Creating creative destinations Building educational institutions for the talent of tomorrow Opportunities in the market FOCUS - being an inch wide mile deep investor Raising money Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Robert would invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below to get listening 🎧 👇🏻 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com/

Nov 23, 2023 • 1h 11min
#49 Tobias Evans, Founding Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Blue Noble LLP
Tobias Evans, Founding Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Blue Noble LLP. Blue Noble was founded in 2017 by a team of experienced real estate professionals from HSBC Alternative Investments - During their tenure with HSBC, the team transacted in and managed over $5 billion of real estate assets across the US, Europe and Asia. Blue Noble offers specialist real estate investment management, through club deals, segregated accounts and funds on a global basis. Toby’s role here is focused on delivering bespoke investment opportunities, strategic business development, managing existing client relationships, and sourcing new capital. Toby started his career at Knight frank, having graduated from both the university of Bristol, having studied Mechanical engineering and Cass Business school where he picked up his MA in Property Valuation and Law. I sat down with Toby to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: What is the difference between a single and multi-family office? Dealing with HNWI as clients Challenges setting up a business What is marriage value Getting comparable evidence as a first mover How he got into real estate Opportunities in the market Naming the business Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Toby invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com/

Nov 16, 2023 • 1h 10min
#48 Tyler Goodwin, Founder & CEO of Seaforth Land
Tyler Goodwin, the Founder and CEO of Seaforth Land. Tyler has 30 years of global real estate experience and has worked in property development, advisory, investment banking, principal investment, and investment management, and has lived and worked in North America, Asia and Europe. He has held positions at firms including – JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank, Urban Land Capital, Lodha and set Seaforth Land up in 2015 to revitalise iconic buildings and resalise inspiring schemes, with a focus on central London commercial real estate. I sat down with Tyler to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Working overseas Working across agency, principal investment, lending and operator side Learnings from global crashes Repurposing real estate Setting up Seaforth Land Earning the commute Retrofit & refurbishment Having a fiduciary duty to investors Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Tyler would invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace

Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 6min
#47 Hugo Llewelyn, Founder & CEO of Newcore Capital Management LLP
Hugo Llewelyn, Founder & CEO of Newcore Capital Management LLP, discusses topics such as real estate investment, creating investment thesis, changes in capital management space, balancing business and social value, learnings from his first business, social infrastructure investment, and distributing profits to charity.

Nov 2, 2023 • 1h
#46 James Lass, Head of Operational Real Estate, Swiss Life Asset Managers UK
James Lass, Head of Operational Real Estate, Swiss Life Asset Managers UK Swiss Life Asset Managers has more than 125 years’ of experience as a real estate investment manager in Europe. In the UK, they provide three principal investment services to a broad investor base – UK Core funds, UK Separate Accounts and Joint Ventures and UK Value add Strategies. Prior to joining Swiss Life James worked at Schroder’s as a Fund Manager responsible for the Schroder UK Real Estate Fund. He started his career at Allsop, before moving to Savills. I sat down with James to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: Operational real estate View on the market Where values lie Growth areas Advice he would give to those entering the market Taking risks in your career Closing the skill gap – moving from agency to the principal side Role of a Fund Manager Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would James invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube from Thursday this week. The People Property Place Podcast 🎙 is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace