

People Property Place
Matthew Watts
Interviewing the leaders shaping the real estate investment management industry. Hosted by Matthew Watts, Founder of Rockbourne.
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
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Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 4min
#65 Kate Donneky, Managing Director at Rhodium
Kate Donneky, Co-Founder & Managing Director at Rhodium, talks about her journey in real estate, bet on the super prime market, branded residences, and being a working mum. She discusses the importance of super prime clients, being an operational partner, and shares where she would invest £500m. Catch the full episode for more insights!

Mar 14, 2024 • 1h
#64 Craig Mason, Investment Director at Pithos Capital
Pithos Capital was named after the largest storage jars used throughout the ancient Greek world to store, trade and preserve value – so it will come as no surprise that Pithos Capital invests in self-storage assets across European cities. Craig started his career at Madison International Realty - a business focused on providing liquidity to real estate owners and investors who otherwise had few options for facilitating early exits from their illiquid real estate ownership positions or monetizing embedded equity. Craig is a graduate of Cornell University where he studied BS Hotel Administration / Real Estate. * How he got into real estate * Real estate secondaries * Self-storage trends * Operational real estate * Difference between indirect & direct experience * Allocation trends Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Craig invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Pod? Hit me up in the comments below 👇🏻 Spotify - https://lnkd.in/gASssveh Apple - https://lnkd.in/g_szCs9n Youtube - https://lnkd.in/erAHfAbw #podcast #rockbourne #realestate #peoplepropertyplace #property Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

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Mar 7, 2024 • 59min
#63 Richard Croft, Founder Martley Capital
Real estate entrepreneur Richard Croft shares insights on his journey in the industry, including lessons learned, value investing strategies, and parallels between past crises. He discusses motivations for starting new ventures, advice for aspiring entrepreneurs, and his hypothetical investment preferences. The podcast covers topics like legacy, MIPIM, and the impact of Brexit on investor confidence in the UK market.

Feb 29, 2024 • 1h
#62 Andy Cox, Co-Founder & Director of Trigon DM
Set up in the depths of the pandemic Trigon is a B – Corp Development Manager with the sole aim of making their clients lives easier. Their track record spans the full breadth of development, front to back, back to front – and that includes all the unique challenges one would expect! Andy studied Civil Engineering at the London South Bank University, as well as undertaking his BSc in Construction Management at the University of Brighton – and he has always applied his training in civil engineering and experience in construction management to building and development. I sat down with Andy to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How he got into real estate * Managing Risk * Setting up Trigon * ESG * B-Corp journey * Data & Technology * Trigon Guiding Principles Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Andy invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Pod? Hit me up in the comments below ?? Spotify - https://lnkd.in/gASssveh Apple - https://lnkd.in/g_szCs9n Youtube - https://lnkd.in/gewtYXc8 #podcast #rockbourne #realestate #peoplepropertyplace #property Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

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Feb 22, 2024 • 1h 12min
#61 Shaun Simons, Founder of Compton
Shaun Simons, founder of Compton, is a visionary in the London commercial real estate scene, previously founding Hatton Real Estate. In this engaging talk, Shaun shares his unconventional journey from leaving school at 16 to building impactful businesses. He discusses the dramatic transformation of Old Street, the balance of gut decisions versus data, and how WFH dynamics challenge team collaboration. He also reveals his investment strategy with a hypothetical £500 million for revitalizing underserved areas while highlighting the importance of personal branding in real estate.

Feb 15, 2024 • 1h 34min
#60 Paddy Allen, Head of Operational Capital Markets - Colliers
Here Paddy and his team specializes in providing a full suite of capital services, including equity and debt raising, transactional services, operational consulting, and real estate technology, to investors and operating platforms in various sectors where real estate investment performance is directly linked to an operational business. Paddy has a deep expertise in Build to Rent, Student Accommodation, Hotels, Co-living, and other emerging sectors. He is also an advisor and investor to businesses across real estate, technology, and wellbeing and he is the Chair of Pathways to Property, a not-for-profit initiative to increase diversity, social mobility, and inclusion within the real estate sector. Paddy holds a BSc (Hons) in Land Management from the University of Reading and has completed the Real Estate Management program at Harvard Business School. I sat down with Paddy to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How he got into real estate * Impact of being rejected by Cambridge University * Operational real estate * Not taking no for an answer * Building a high performing team * Openers & Closers * Overcoming self-doubt * Types of capital / companies entering the operational landscape * BTR, PBSA, Hotels, Co-Living & Self Storage * Pathways to property Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Paddy invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast ??? is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Pod? Hit me up in the comments below ?? Spotify - https://lnkd.in/gASssveh Apple - https://lnkd.in/g_szCs9n Youtube - https://lnkd.in/gewtYXc8 #podcast #rockbourne #realestate #peoplepropertyplace #property Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 7min
#59 Van Stults, Founding Partner of Orion Capital Managers
Van Stults - Founding Partner of Orion Capital Managers. Privately owned Orion is a leading European real estate private equity firm founded in 1999 by its 3 partners, Aref, Van and Bruce. With offices in London, Madrid, Milan, and Paris, Orion operates across major European markets, leveraging its local presence and extensive network to identify and capitalize on outstanding investment opportunities. Van has had a phenomenal career spanning more than 40 years. Prior to setting up Orion he was a member of the board of directors of Lasalle, a Managing Director, a member of the Operating Committee and head of European investment activities. Van also established Lasalle's European offices in London and Paris in 1990. I sat down with Van to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: * How he got into real estate * International trends in capital raising * Orion business model * Where to allocate opportunistic capital in Europe * Shared business vision with co-founders Aref and Bruce * Creating high performing, aligned, international teams * Panorama St Pauls – HSBC’s global HQ Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Van invest should he have £500m of capital at his disposal. Catch the full episode which is live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast 🎙️️ is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Pod? Hit me up in the comments below 👇🏻 Spotify - https://lnkd.in/gASssveh Apple - https://lnkd.in/g_szCs9n Youtube - https://lnkd.in/gewtYXc8 #podcast #rockbourne #realestate #peoplepropertyplace #property Links cited in the podcast: Urban Land Institute: https://uli.org/ Urban Plan: https://uk.uli.org/get-involved/urbanplan/ Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook at https://mattcookproducer.com

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Feb 1, 2024 • 59min
#58 Tim Lumsdon, Founder and CEO of Marchmont Investment Management
Tim Lumsdon, Founder and CEO of Marchmont Investment Management, discusses his journey into real estate, surface storage, and capitalizing on institutional inefficiencies. He shares insights on sourcing deals, the rise of private equity, and future growth opportunities in the UK market.

Jan 25, 2024 • 1h 3min
#57 Olaide Oboh, Executive Director at Socius
Olaide Oboh - Executive Director at Socius. Privately owned and a certified B Corp, Socius is an impactful developer with a £2.2bn pound development pipeline across the UK’s fastest-growing cities. They partner with institutional investors, leading architects and local communities to create inspiring and sustainable places whilst balancing profit and purpose. At Socius, Olaide is responsible for nurturing partnerships with key stakeholders, as well as growing the company’s pipeline across the UK. She started her career in Marketing and Communications and has had a meteoric rise – and in 2022 she was recognised by Estates Gazette as one of the 50 most influential people in the industry. I sat down with Olaide to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into real estate You don’t need specific qualifications ‘Figure-it-out-ability’ Building connections with a focus on the future Product market fit Understanding communities & stakeholders Being a social chameleon Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Olaide invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below ?? #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@peoplepropertyplacepodcast Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook - mattcookproducer.com

Jan 18, 2024 • 55min
#56 Stacey Patten, Director of MultiFamily Investment Management UK & Nordics at Invesco Real Estate
Since its inception in 1983, Invesco Real Estate has been investing in direct property and public traded real asset securities across the risk/return spectrum, across the globe, and throughout the capital stack. Stacey started her real estate career in the USA at PGIM Real Estate before moving to Invesco. She spent 3 years running a pan-USA portfolio of multifamily assets before moving to the UK in September 2022. Stacey is a graduate of University of California Berkeley where she completed her Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. I sat down with Stacey to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into real estate US vs UK vs European market Type of capital & returns chasing BTR Forward funding, forward commit & JV structures Driving operational efficiency at scale Product - market - fit Single family housing - SFH Oh, and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place would Stacey invest should she have £500m of capital at her disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify, Apple and Youtube NOW! The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? Link in the comments below 👇🏻 #podcast #realestate #property #peoplepropertyplace Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6oCDnwWSTP685l6sn8F0a6 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-property-place/id1652694140 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLugt7vb7tPvbp_im8m7PoAq4U0mG3TeYR Podcast produced and edited by Matt Cook - mattcookproducer.com