
LEVELS – A Whole New Level
Levels builds tech that helps people understand how food affects their metabolic health, empowering others with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve health span. We host in-depth conversations with industry thought leaders with research-backed information, so you can take your health into own hands.
Connect with us:
Become a Member: https://levels.link/wnl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@levels
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/levels
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/levels
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@levels
Latest episodes

Jun 13, 2022 • 42min
#132 - Murillo’s journey on Levels’ software engineering team | Murillo Nicácio De Marães & Ben Grynol
After getting introduced to Sam Corcos, CEO and Co-Founder, Murillo started contracting right away in early 2020 as one of the first developers at Levels. He got pulled into the company culture early on.
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In this team member spotlight episode, Ben Grynol (Head of Growth) sat down with Murillo Nicácio De Marães to talk about:
Murillo’s Brazilian background and staying connected to his home
What it felt like to join Levels and get immersed in the unique culture
The ideal laid-back gathering for introverts: The Brazilian non-party party, churrasco.
The excitement of the growth and evolution of Levels
Levels’ atypical approach of startups or engineering functions to go deep into documentation and async communication
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
🎙 What Levels' Head of Growth Ben Grynol and Software Engineer Murillo Nicácio De Marães discuss:
(06:42) – From contractor to employee
(09:57) – Finding a place to call home
(12:29) – Family ties
(15:53) – Home away from home
(19:58) – Staying connected
(23:53) – Take a break
(31:46) – The importance of specialty training
(32:27) – Document everything
(34:35) – The value of being proactive
Follow our podcast, A Whole New Level, for more of the inside scoop from the Levels team. We talk about our mission to solve the metabolic health crisis, our fully remote and async startup culture, and the process of building a health and wellness movement from the ground up.
Transcripts & Show Notes
🔗 Helpful links:
Find us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/levelshealth

Jun 10, 2022 • 18min
#131 - Building in public: Transparency, confidence, and ownership | CEO Sam Corcos & Mike DiDonato
At a startup, or any company for that matter, you have the choice to keep the business strategy and culture private… or you can build in public. Building in public inspires an environment of transparency and confidence for investors, employee recruitment, and customers.
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Levels’ Head of Success Mike DiDonato met with CEO Sam Corcos to discuss the benefits of Levels’ policy of building in public:
It helps internal and external people feel good about the company through a strong culture of trust and documentation.
You can recruit and retain employees and investors who feel more comfortable because they can see behind the curtain.
It limits gossip fatigue and removes elements of surprise through top-down openness and transparency.
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
🎙 What Levels' CEO Sam Corcos and Head of Success Mike DiDonato discuss:
(03:05) – Communicate intentionally
(04:15) – Transparency offers security
(05:49) – Find people who match your company’s culture
(07:41) – Let people opt out
(10:47) – The curse of knowledge
(11:55) – Navigating company growth
(14:50) – Be confident
(16:48) – Pragmatic transparency
Follow our podcast, A Whole New Level, for more of the inside scoop from the Levels team. We talk about our mission to solve the metabolic health crisis, our fully remote and async startup culture, and the process of building a health and wellness movement from the ground up.
Transcripts & Show Notes
🔗 Helpful links:
Watch the conversation: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mJWoF-ws8vc

Jun 9, 2022 • 48min
#130 - On working with family at a startup | Josh Clemente, Mercy Clemente, & Ben Grynol
At a small startup, siblings working together would normally be a disaster. But Josh Clemente and his sister Mercy Clemente found a way to work well together and maintain a positive family relationship.
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In this episode, they discuss all of this with host Ben Grynol:
How their upbringing prepared them for the Levels’ async culture
The serendipitous timing of Mercy joining first as a contractor
How they keep their home and work life separate
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
🎙 What Josh Clemente, Mercy Clemente, & Ben Grynol discuss:
(04:00) – Learning independence
(04:53) – The similarity between homeschooling and async work
(09:04) – Institute solid boundaries
(14:08) – Failure is okay
(15:16) – Be confident
(29:22) – Working as family
(37:26) – Eliminating helplessness
(42:40) – Trying new things
Transcripts & Show Notes
🔗 Helpful links:
Find us on YouTube: https://youtube.com/levelshealth?sub_confirmation=1

Jun 8, 2022 • 1h 7min
#129 - Unschooling: Embracing unstructured learning at home | Dave ten Have & Dr. Casey Means
Dave ten Have, co-founder of Levels startup team, and Dr. Casey Means, a medical doctor specializing in metabolic health, discuss the concept of unschooling, its benefits, and how it differs from homeschooling. They explore the unschooling curriculum, teaching subjects you don't know, the ebbs and flows of unschooling, getting rid of artificial milestones, and the impact on Dave's life. They also touch on the importance of learning, navigating screen time, and finding a balance between work and family.

Jun 6, 2022 • 50min
#128 - All things in marketing attribution | Josh Mohrer, Paul Barszcz, & Ben Grynol
With online sales, all customer touchpoints are important for attribution. But how do you determine which are the strongest levers, which have the highest ROI, and whether remarketing is actually worth it?
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In this episode, Levels’ Head of Growth, Ben Grynol, chatted with our head of Global Operations, Josh Mohrer, and Digital Marketing Manager, Paul Barszcz about all things marketing attribution.
They cover:
Determining where sales come from
Why and what Levels measure for attribution
Benefits and pitfalls of tracking attribution
Building trust with your customers
Testing multi-touchpoint attribution
When attribution tracking becomes a waste of time
How our diverse startup team contributes to marketing strategy and attribution insights
Memo – Levels Approach to Earned, Owned and Paid Media
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
🎙 What Levels’ head of Global Operations, Josh Mohrer, Digital Marketing Manager, Paul Barszcz, and Head of Growth, Ben Grynol discuss:
(5:26) – How to define attribution
(8:06) – Attribution is a social science
(10:07) – Figure out where demand is generated
(11:12) – Examine your spending habits
(13:30) – Take the long view
(14:45) – How much will you pay to acquire a new customer?
(22:46) – The importance of an omni-channel approach
(26:51) – Make your product worth the buy
(30:38) – Measure the performance of your channels
(36:12) – The Oprah effect
Transcripts & Show Notes
Follow our podcast, A Whole New Level, for more of the inside scoop from the Levels team. We talk about our mission to solve the metabolic health crisis, our fully remote and async startup culture, and the process of building a health and wellness movement from the ground up.
🔗 Helpful links:
Find us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/levelshealth
Connect with Paul on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/paulbars

Jun 2, 2022 • 57min
#127 - Where metabolic health and culture converge | Dhru Purohit & Austin McGuffie
What are the unique metabolic health experiences of South Asian and Black communities? In this candid conversation between serial entrepreneur and health and wellness investor Dhru Purohit and content creator and metabolism mentor Austin McGuffie, they discuss how metabolic health affects their respective communities.
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Austin and Dhru discuss:
How rates of metabolic dysfunction are high for South Asian and Black communities
Their personal journeys with food and overall health
Genetic predispositions for insulin resistance
How to strengthen the connection between what we eat and how we feel
The importance of metabolic flexibility
Actionable tips anyone can incorporate to reduce glucose spikes
Focusing on dietary additions and changes rather than deprivation
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
(18:51) – Live by example
(23:21) – Focus on education first
(24:53) – The benefits of targeted fasting
(26:08) – Dying from excess
(30:03) – It all comes back to lifestyle
(34:42) – Talk to people who are on the fence
(35:57) – The societal split
(36:52) – Why we need targeted solutions
(38:45) – The add-in method
(52:09) – Health happens in community
Transcripts & Show Notes
Find us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/levelshealth
Connect with Austin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/metabolismmentor
Connect with Dhru on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dhrupurohit
Connect with Dhru on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dhrupurohit

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May 30, 2022 • 1h 54min
#126 - How to be a digital nomad | Sam Corcos, Dr. Casey Means, Mike Haney, and Steph Coates
When you work at a remote company, you have the unique option to be a digital nomad. Since Levels is a fully remote and async startup, our teammates have the option to travel anywhere in the world and work. For example, Levels’ CEO Sam Corcos lived out of a small backpack, traveling from city to city as Levels started.
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Editorial Director Mike Haney chatted with Sam and other Levels employees who lived the digital nomad lifestyle: Co-founder and Chief Medical Officer Dr. Casey Means, and Steph Coates, a software engineer.
In this episode, Sam, Casey, Haney, and Steph discuss these aspects of being a digital nomad:
The beauty of building a lifestyle around travel and what you love to do at work
Flexing the spontaneity muscle and going outside your comfort zone
Building deeper relationships with friends along the way
And more practical aspects like how to decide where to go, how to stay healthy on the road, how to prepare for different scenarios, and how to pay taxes.
(15:31) – People make you a priority
(17:32) – Don’t overthink your decisions
(18:56) – Set clear expectations
(33:26) – You can be grounded anywhere
(46:09) – Travel doesn’t always mean leisure
(48:55) – Listen to yourself
(01:04:09) – Establish a routine
(01:08:35) – How do you keep your taxes in order?
(01:16:54) – Usually everything works out
(01:23:28) – Being a minimalist
(01:31:20) – The price of being a nomad
(01:39:13) – Making it work
Transcripts & Show Notes
Follow our podcast, A Whole New Level, for more of the inside scoop from the Levels team. We talk about our mission to solve the metabolic health crisis, our fully remote and async startup culture, and the process of building a health and wellness movement from the ground up.
“You Don’t Have to Be Local”: https://sive.rs/local
Find us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/levelshealth

May 26, 2022 • 51min
#125 - Countless STARTUP Milestones in Just One Year - Levels in 2021 | Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol
So much can happen in just one year at a startup: Crucial milestones like team growth, fundraising, and launches happen very fast. Josh Clemente and Ben Grynol reflect on Levels’ 2021 milestones because it was one of our most exciting years. Follow our podcast, A Whole New Level, for more of the inside scoop from the Levels team. We talk about our mission to solve the metabolic health crisis, our fully remote and async startup culture, and the process of building a health and wellness movement from the ground up.
Sign Up to Get Your Free Ultimate Guide to Glucose: https://levels.link/wnl
Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol cover:
Notable press and print articles, including a podcast tour
Nearly doubling the Levels team
Community engagement and beta testing, with a Coke challenge 🥤
The decision to stop using Slack
Developing new product features and membership frameworks
Successful fundraising and crowdfunding
Growing the advisory board with incredible thought leaders, including Dr. Robert Lustig, Dr. David Perlmutter, Dr. Sara Gottfried, Dr. David Sinclair, and Dr. Mark Hyman
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
🎙 What Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol discuss:
(09:44) – The power of podcasting
(12:35) – Help people live better lives
(19:23) – The importance of remote datasets
(22:09) – Creating engagement
(25:13) – Getting rid of Slack
(27:23) – Streamline communication
(28:59) – Be willing to make changes
(30:40) – Question assumptions
(33:09) – Align incentives
(47:14) – Looking at long-term scale
Transcript & Show notes
🔗 Helpful links:
Watch the conversation: https://youtu.be/IFBcmxWMZKo
Find us on YouTube: https://youtube.com/levelshealth?sub_confirmation=1

May 23, 2022 • 49min
#124 - When doors become hallways: A repeatable product-building process (Scott Klein & Mike Haney)
Levels Editorial Director, Mike Haney, chatted with our Head of Product, Scott Klein. They explored Scott's role in our company, what it means to be a Head of Product, and how the functional area of Product works in a remote async environment.
Sign Up to Get Your Free Ultimate Guide to Glucose: https://levels.link/wnl
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
(07:15) – Product is a tough role
(11:03) – Focus on the customer experience
(17:45) – Do more experiments
(19:46) – Be thoughtful about changes
(22:42) – It’s not just a numbers game
(23:42) – Land your products
(25:06) – Focus on alignment
(36:52) – Good async enables good sync
(40:40) – When a door becomes a hallway
(46:08) – Making real-time decisions
Transcripts & Show Notes

May 19, 2022 • 38min
#123 - Member Story: Being a role model for my family and the next generation (Gabe Mendoza & Ben Grynol)
Levels Head of Growth, Ben Grynol, follows up with CrossFit trainer, creator of the Mendoza Program and one of our earliest Levels members, Gabe Mendoza. They dive into how Gabe has been focused on optimizing his fitness through diet and lifestyle choices with the help of his CGM. Gabe also discusses how this insight has helped him be a role model for his family’s health and so many people around him.
Sign Up to Get Your Free Ultimate Guide to Glucose: https://levels.link/wnl
Levels helps you see how food affects your health, empowering you with the tools needed to achieve health goals and improve healthspan. Levels Members gain access to the Levels app and continuous glucose monitors (CGMs), providing real-time feedback on how diet and lifestyle choices impact your metabolic health.
Look for new shows every month on A Whole New Level, where we have in-depth conversations with thought leaders about metabolic health.
(08:03) – People have to opt in
(10:26) – Focus on small changes
(15:07) – Overcoming the American diet
(19:18) – Look at your patterns
(21:13) – Your body craves homeostasis
(25:59) – Control your environment
(30:11) – Create routines
(32:38) – Influence the people closest to you
(33:27) – You can change your community
(36:25) – Change is a long-term endeavor
Read Gabe's Story – levelshealth.com/blog
Transcripts & Show Notes