
Edufuturists
We are led to believe that the education system will continually evolve to meet the needs of learners and society. This has not happened. We need a revolution!
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Jan 20, 2025 • 50min
Edufuturists #276 Schools as Ideas Factories with Ben Whitaker
In this episode of the podcast, Steve does a solo interview with Ben about his upcoming book, The Ideas Guy: Unleash Your Inner Genius. They explore the origins of Ben's identity as 'The Ideas Guy', the influences that shaped his thinking, and the importance of authenticity in personal and professional development. The discussion also goes into the metaphor of a dinner party to illustrate how Ben curates ideas and insights from various influential figures, emphasising the need for a structured approach to creativity and innovation.
In this conversation, we explore the themes of authenticity, leadership, and personal development. We discuss the importance of shining one's light and being true to oneself, the role of coaching in leadership, and the concept of unleashing one's inner genius. The discussion also touches on the purpose of Ben's book, which aims to help individuals discover and frame their unique ideas and potential.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction02:00 The Birth of the Ideas Guy (not literally!)07:41 Influences and Inspirations12:42 The Dinner Party Metaphor21:25 The Importance of Authenticity26:54 Shining Your Light: Authenticity in Leadership32:14 The Role of Coaching in Leadership39:03 Unleashing Your Inner Genius46:49 The Purpose of the Ideas Guy Book
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Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 5min
Edufuturists #275 Building a Community with Leisa Grace Wilson
In this episode of the podcast, we engage in a lively conversation with Leisa Grace Wilson, an educator and leader based in Abu Dhabi. We discuss Leisa's journey from the UK to the Middle East, the challenges and opportunities of leading in a culturally diverse environment, and the rapid pace of educational reform in the region.
Leisa shares insights on the importance of community for educators, the role of her platform Teach Middle East, and the impact of her podcast. The conversation also touches on the significance of using LinkedIn for professional growth and the courage it takes to pivot in one's career.
Find out more about Leisa and her work via the links below:
Teach Middle East Magazine
Leisa Grace Linkedin
The Middle East School Leadership Conference
The AI in Education Summit 2025
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:45 Leisa's Journey to the Middle East
06:29 Cultural Navigation in Leadership
09:18 Rapid Development in Abu Dhabi's Education
12:27 Future-Proofing Education
19:59 Teach Middle East: A Resource for Educators
22:36 Creating Community for Educators
26:11 The Importance of Staff Rooms and Community Spaces
30:02 The Importance of Social Interaction in Education
31:40 Insights from the Teach Middle East Podcast
34:20 The Passion Behind Podcasting
37:26 The Value of Long-Form Conversations
39:49 Understanding Educational Leadership
41:55 Personalised Professional Development in Education
46:20 Creating Meaningful Connections at Events
56:42 Leveraging LinkedIn for Educators
01:00:42 The Courage to Pivot in EducationThanks so much for joining us again for another episode - we appreciate you.
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Jan 6, 2025 • 56min
Edufuturists #274 Infinite Education with Dan Fitzpatrick
In this episode of the podcast, we welcome back Dan Fitzpatrick to discuss the evolving landscape of education in 2025. We explore the challenges and innovations in global education systems, the impact of artificial intelligence, and the need for strategic thinking to prepare students for the future.
The conversation goes into the necessity of both revolutionary and evolutionary changes in education, emphasising the importance of innovation and adaptability in a rapidly changing world. In this conversation, we explore the evolving landscape of education, emphasising the need to rethink traditional metrics and the purpose of education.
We discuss the concept of treating education as an infinite game, focusing on lifelong learning and personal development rather than merely preparing students for the workforce. The conversation also touches on the importance of decentralisation in education, the potential for innovation, and the role of community involvement in shaping a more holistic educational experience.
Many of these themes are in Dan's upcoming book - Infinite Education - which you can preorder here.
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Chapters
00:00 Welcome to 2025: A New Year and New Beginnings
02:59 Dan's Journey: Insights from the Field
06:02 Global Perspectives on Education: Challenges and Innovations
09:08 The Future of Education: Shifting Paradigms and Strategies
11:58 Artificial Intelligence in Education: Opportunities and Threats
14:53 Navigating the Education System: The Need for Change
17:57 Speculative Design: Imagining the Future of Learning
21:02 Revolution or Evolution? The Dual Path of Educational Change
27:19 Rethinking Education Metrics
28:54 The Infinite Game of Education
31:14 Defining the Purpose of Education
32:41 Preparing Students for Life, Not Just Work
36:10 Decentralisation in Education
40:20 The Future of Educational Innovation
46:41 The Shift from Finite to Infinite Learning
50:34 Community Involvement in Education
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Dec 30, 2024 • 49min
Edufuturists #273 The Big Review Part 6 with Ben & Steve
In this final episode of 2024, we reflect on the year's highlights, discussing significant themes in education, including assessment, innovation, and the role of technology. We review key podcast episodes, including conversations with influential guests and their experiences at events like BETT and the Brilliant Festival.
The discussion emphasises the importance of contextualising technology in education and looking forward to the opportunities that 2025 will bring. In this conversation, we reflect on Uprising 2024, celebrating its success and the vibrant community that supports it, which we will make happen again in Manchester in June 2025.
We discuss the importance of recognising individuals making a difference in education, the excitement for future events, and the role of technology as an enabler in education. We talk about the need for authenticity in their discussions and the importance of calling out ineffective practices in the education system. The conversation is filled with enthusiasm for the future and a commitment to meaningful change in education.
Chapters
00:00 2024 Reflections and Future Gazing
01:47 Assessment and Innovation in Education
08:02 BETT and Media Partnerships
12:04 Highlights from the Brilliant Festival
16:11 Conversations with Education Leaders
19:48 AI in Education: Contextualising Technology
22:53 Looking Ahead to 2025
24:47 Celebrating the Uprising Event
26:51 Community and Awards Recognition
28:53 Looking Ahead to 2025
30:20 Engaging with Global Partners
32:34 Technology as an Enabler in Education
35:48 The Future of Education and Innovation
38:04 Calling Out the System
40:39 Authenticity and Fun in Conversations
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Dec 23, 2024 • 53min
Edufuturists #272 Contextualise Your AI with Matthew Wemyss
In this episode, we chat with 2024 Edufuturists' AI Pioneer of the Year, Matthew Wemyss, about the sensible integration of AI in education, the importance of community building, and the challenges of personalisation and equity in learning. Matthew shares his journey in education, his role in a British overseas school in Romania, and how he utilises AI tools like ChatGPT to enhance teaching strategies and support teachers.
The conversation also touches on the need for investment in educational technology to ensure all students have access to learning resources, particularly in the wake of the digital divide exacerbated by the pandemic. In this conversation, we explore the intersection of AI and education, discussing the need for better partnerships between tech companies and schools, the necessity of reflective practices for educators and the potential of AI to empower students in their learning journeys.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:12 Matthew's Journey and Role in Education
08:12 Integrating AI in Education: Strategies and Challenges
16:25 The Role of AI in Personalisation and Teacher Support
22:01 Equity in Education: Addressing the Digital Divide
25:58 The Role of AI in Education Partnerships
30:08 Personalisation and Equity in Education
34:09 Reflective Practices in Teaching with AI
43:28 Empowering Students through AI
46:40 Rethinking Assessment and Learning Success
Get Matthew's Educator's Handbook and Student's Handbook
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Dec 18, 2024 • 1h 10min
Edufuturists #270 Brilliant Snippets of the Future of Education
In this episode of the podcast, it's a mashup of our conversations from the Brilliant Festival in Liverpool back in October. Our live interview on the main stage with Nachelle Crowther, Hugh Viney and Tom Rogerson has already gone out (check that out here). This one is from our little booth at the show where we got to chat with some incredible guests and speakers. (Don't judge Ben for being on his phone - he is sharing on social media live from the show!)
Chapters
00:00 Introductions
02:20 James Fraser-Murison
15:14 Matthew Wemyss
28:10 Lauren Walker & Sam D
42:24 Simone Roche
55:32 Steve Baker & Matt Littler
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Dec 18, 2024 • 55min
Edufuturists #271 Unfinished Business with Mick Waters & David Cameron
In this episode of the podcast, we are joined by David Cameron and Mick Waters to discuss the legacy of Sir Tim Brighouse, a significant figure in UK education. They explore Tim's influence, personal stories, and the concept of 'unfinished business' in education, emphasising the importance of continuous improvement and community engagement.
The conversation highlights the need for actionable steps in education and the lasting impact of Tim's work. The conversation reflects on the legacy of people like Sir Tim and others like Sir Ken Robinson and David Price, focusing on the importance of teacher empowerment, the challenges of compliance in education, and the need for a more human-centred approach to teaching.
We discuss the impact of politics on education, the necessity of autonomy for teachers, and the significance of inclusion and accessibility in the educational landscape. They advocate for a shift in metrics and accountability, focusing on strengths rather than compliance, and highlight the call to action for educators to retain joy and purpose in their profession.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:01 Legacy of Sir Tim Brighouse
05:04 Personal Stories and Memories of Tim
08:12 Influence and Impact of Tim's Work
12:10 The Unfinished Business of Education
18:10 Continuous Improvement in Education
24:21 Legacy of Tim and David Price
25:29 Empowering Teachers for Progress
27:43 The Role of Politics in Education
28:12 A Call to Action for Teachers
30:36 The Challenge of Compliance in Education
31:06 Metrics and Accountability in Education
33:01 Finding Strengths in Education
34:27 The Bigger Picture Beyond Schools
37:12 Inclusion and Accessibility in Education
39:55 The Need for Autonomy in Teaching
40:36 Humanity and Purpose in Education
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Dec 2, 2024 • 47min
Edufuturists #269 Make The Most Out of BETT with Duncan Verry & Neelam Parmar
In this episode of the podcast, we are joined by Neelam Parmar and Duncan Verry to discuss the upcoming BETT UK event, its significance in the education technology landscape, and the importance of community engagement.
Duncan Verry is the Portfolio Director for BETT and Dr Neelam Parmar is Director of Professional Learning and Online Education at AISL Harrow Schools, as well as being a judge for the BETT Awards.
Neelam shares her extensive experience attending BETT, emphasising the value of learning and networking. Duncan discusses his new role and the global perspective of education technology, highlighting the common challenges faced by educators worldwide. The conversation also touches on the importance of including teacher voices in discussions about educational policy and practice, as well as the launch of the EdTech Buyers Guide to help educators make informed decisions about technology investments.
In this conversation, we discuss the importance of having a clear digital strategy in education, the challenges of digital transformation, and the role of EdTech tools in enhancing educational outcomes. We focus on the need for accessibility and inclusion in technology, as well as the significance of networking and collaboration among educators to ensure successful tech adoption.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to BETT
02:09 Neelam's Journey and Experience at BETT
05:14 Duncan's Role and Insights on BETT
08:03 Global Perspectives on Education and Technology
11:15 The Importance of Community in Education
14:01 Bringing Teacher Voices to the Forefront
15:02 Understanding Practical Applications in Education
18:25 The EdTech Buyers Guide and Strategic Planning
22:35 Understanding Digital Strategy in Education
25:20 Navigating Digital Transformation Challenges
30:50 Leveraging EdTech Tools for Effective Implementation
37:31 Ensuring Accessibility and Inclusion in EdTech
40:55 Building a Network for Successful Tech Adoption
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Nov 25, 2024 • 54min
Edufuturists #268 Applying Knowledge Not Rote Memorisation with Louise Attwood
In this episode of the podcast, we are joined by Louise Attwood, the subject lead for design technology and computer science at AQA. The conversation explores the evolving landscape of education, particularly in the areas of curriculum development and assessment. Louise shares her journey from being a design and technology teacher to her current role, emphasising the importance of interdisciplinary connections in education.
The discussion also looks into the challenges of keeping curricula relevant in a fast-paced world, the role of Ofqual in maintaining standards, and innovative assessment practices that cater to diverse student needs. We passionately discuss the evolving landscape of education assessment, not ignoring the need for innovative methods that go beyond traditional exams.
We explore the importance of meeting students where they are, the role of technology in assessments, and the necessity of critical thinking skills in preparing students for the future. The dialogue also highlights the importance of engaging diverse voices in educational reform to ensure a more inclusive and effective system.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Context Setting
03:51 Interdisciplinary Connections in Education
06:19 Challenges in Curriculum Development
11:01 The Role of Ofqual in Education
14:51 Louise's Journey in Education
20:35 The Importance of Assessment
24:47 Innovations in Assessment Practices
28:39 Rethinking Assessment in Education
32:21 Innovative Assessment Methods and Technology
35:52 Meeting Students Where They Are
39:29 The Role of Critical Thinking in Education
43:41 Engaging Diverse Voices in Educational Reform
51:01 Quickfire Questions and Final Thoughts
Louise talked about AQA Stride, which you can find out more about here
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Nov 18, 2024 • 37min
Edufuturists #267 The Big Review Part 5 with Ben & Steve
In this episode, Ben and Steve recap the past TEN episodes and discuss the exciting future of education around some of the themes they have discussed with their guests. They cover a range of topics, including the role of AI in education, digital transformation, the importance of human connection, botheredness, a curriculum fit for purpose and the need for a holistic approach to learning.
They also highlight the significance of supporting educators whilst championing the need for a more flexible and risk-friendly education system. The conversation is filled with humour, passion, and a commitment to making a positive impact in education.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Podcast
03:11 Reflections on Recent Conversations
06:14 The Importance of Thriving in Education
08:59 Breaking Down Educational Illusions
11:47 Personalisation in Learning and Teaching
15:09 The Role of Passion and Compassion in Education
17:57 The Impact of Technology on Learning
20:54 Creating a Culture of Innovation
23:55 The Need for Change in Educational Systems
26:57 Conclusion and Future Directions
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