
SEO in 2025
SEO is continuing to change at an alarming pace. And yet, in some sense, the principles of good SEO remain the same.
Hello, and welcome to SEO in 2025 – a significant repository of current thinking from many of the world’s leading SEOs.
We're pleased to be able to welcome you to the fourth book and fourth series in this podcast, now well and truly an annual tradition, brought to you by Majestic.
“Consider this book the Bible of SEO—a comprehensive, fresh, and highly actionable resource that sets the standard in the industry each year.”
PAM AUNGST CRONIN
President/Owner, PamAnnMarketing.com
“SEOin2025 is the best up-to-date, comprehensive resource out there to understand the main SEO trends and how to stay ahead next year.”
ALEYDA SOLIS
International SEO Consultant & Founder, Orainti
“I’ve been participating in this series for years now and have found the value to be consistently high!”
KEVIN INDIG
Growth Consultant, Kevin-Indig.com
“The ‘SEO in’ series has become my annual touchstone to get an overview of what some of the best in the industry are thinking.”
MARK WILLIAMS-COOK
Director, AlsoAsked/Candour
“The SEO in 2022, 2023, 2024 and now 2025 is by far my favorite way to refresh my SEO knowledge and get some inspiration before the new year. It is also super helpful for planning priorities or things to test in the following year. That's the book for December! Thank you for this initiative. I don't think this is definitely the best of the best books with SEO tips.”
OLGA ZARR
SEO Consultant at SEOSLY
“David's annual edition where the world’s leading SEOs share their number 1, actionable tip is an essential book for any digital marketer who wants to create actionable and valuable strategies for the year ahead and am honoured to be part of 2025's edition. The different skillsets of selected SEOs mean you'll be spoilt for choice on the different approaches to SEO and how they are valuable to you, your business and you clients.”
ALEX MOSS
Principal SEO, Yoast & Co-Founder, FireCask
“Once again, David has brought together some of the brightest minds in the industry and squeezed them together to produce raw, distilled insight. This is a must-read for anybody wanting to get ahead online.”
JONO ALDERSON
Independent Technical SEO Consultant
“The annual SEO book by Majestic and David is truly the ultimate SEO cheat code of the year! It's packed with timeless strategies and smart approaches—no shortcuts here, just solid insights for sustainable success. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, this book has something for everyone. I'm honoured to be part of a community of elite SEOs sharing our knowledge to help others succeed. This is a must-read!”
DRE DE VERA
Host/Producer, SEO Video Show
Latest episodes

Mar 17, 2025 • 17min
Stop assuming that 'producing content' is a necessary component of modern SEO - Jono Alderson
Jono Alderson shares that we should stop writing articles. He says "Stop assuming that 'producing content' is a core, valuable, or necessary component of modern SEO. Burn your content marketing playbook, and critically assess the role of content in a world where Google can synthesize answers to increasingly large numbers of (types of) queries."Discussion points include:Why do we need to burn our content marketing playbook?How do we critically assess the role of content in a world where Google can synthesize answers to increasingly large numbers of queries?What does this do - how do we adapt our strategy?What does a content marketing playbook look like in 2025?What content strategies won’t make it?Is AI going to make content marketing doomed?Can we use AI in a way that augments our content, without fear of being gazumped?How does this affect the setting of an SEO strategy?

Mar 14, 2025 • 15min
The intersection between UX and SEO - with Laura Iancu
Laura Iancu discusses the intersection between UX and SEO with David Bain.Talking points include:Do you need to be a UX designer to deliver a user-friendly website architecture?What are some simple steps to take in order to deliver a search engine-friendly website?How do you like to stay on top of the latest UX trends and techniques?How do you ensure that UX and SEO works together effectively in a large organisation?What do you look for as a user to ensure that your website is mobile friendly?You say that UXR is your friend - what do you mean by that?You advise that an SEO should practise by constantly auditing competitor websites - what does this look like?You say that the accessibility tab in Google Lighthouse + a screen reader can be your best friends - why is this?

Mar 13, 2025 • 16min
Use AI to help do the dirty work, but don't forget to be human first - with Andy Mollison
Andy Mollison shares the importance of using AI to help do the dirty work (the boring bits), but don't forget to be human first. He shares that using scripts and tools can automate processes that would normally take hours.Discussion points include:You say “Don’t forget to be human-first.” What does that mean in practice? What elements need to be done by a human?What processes should you be automating?How do you use AI to create meta descriptions?How do you use AI for redirect mapping?You also suggest uploading your tone of voice to AI chat to check content for brand alignment - how does this work?How do you create tone of voice / brand guidelines ?What AI software do you prefer to use at the moment and why?What are the downsides to using AI?How do you ensure that you don’t end up creating generic content that Google won’t like?How will the use of AI continue to evolve in 2025?

Mar 12, 2025 • 17min
SEO will be more about people, building relationships and showing empathy - Nikolas Monti-Potsolakis
In this episode, Nikolas Monti-Potsolakis shares that SEO will be more about people, building relationships and getting to show empathy. Being in someone’s shoes. Understanding. And ultimately caring for their clients' business. For the person. Not just the numbers. Going above and beyond their needs and egos.Discussion points include:How can you measure the ROI of people?What good does building relationships and showing empathy do for SEO?How do you care for a client’s business and what good does that do?How do you get to understand and care for a client’s business?You say, don’t just focus on the numbers - what numbers should you focus on?How do you build the areas around the numbers into a strategy?How do you justify the value of relationships to your boss?How will this approach continue to evolve in the future?

Mar 11, 2025 • 17min
The importance of relevance and depth when it comes to content and link building - with Amit Raj
Amit Raj discusses the importance of relevance and depth when it comes to content and link building with David Bain.Discussion points include:What is relevance? Available vs retainable market / KD scoreLinks - context - what content attracts best links? Most relevant links - content pitching publicationsWhat do you mean by depth?What does this mean when it comes to content?What does this mean when it comes to link building?How do you measure relevance and depth?Where does this fit into an overall SEO strategy?

Mar 10, 2025 • 15min
Don't forget the human touch - with Desmond Boateng
Desmond Boateng shares the importance of not forgetting the human touch, hosted by David Bain.Discussion points include:How do you know when to use the human touch and when to rely on AI and automation?When does the use of AI go too far?You say that Google is smart enough to recognize your AI content - surely if you’re subtle with your use of AI content then this won’t be obvious to Google?How do you go about demonstrating the human touch?How does incorporating the human touch make a positive difference to Google?Are there other search engines that you focus on too, or primarily Google?

Mar 7, 2025 • 16min
The return to Human Written Content - with Julia Carolin-Zeng
In this episode, Julia Carolin-Zeng discusses the return to human written content, how the flood of AI content has caused a decrease in qualityand seeing a return to content written by humans with a human voice.Talking points include:How do you measure this decrease in quality?Is AI not getting better and better?How can human writers possibly compete with the speed of AI?What does “with a human voice mean”?What aspects of human writing can compete with AI?Are search engines not ambivalent nowadays if something has been written by AI - is it not just all about user experience?What is your process for creating an article?

Mar 6, 2025 • 15min
SEO in 2025 is about task completion and query satisfaction - with Arnout Hellemans
Arnout Hellemans shares that SEO in 2025 is a lot about task completion and query satisfaction. This means that UX and CRO will start to play an even bigger part in the ordering of documents.Discussion points include:What do you mean that SEO in 2025 is a lot about task completion and query satisfaction?How do you optimize for task completion and query satisfaction?What role will UX and CRO play in SEOWhat metrics will Google look at specifically?What are some examples of UX and CRO improvements that a site can make? How do you measure the impact of the improvements for UX and CRO that you make?How does UX and CRO impact the overall content strategy?How should an SEO with in-house UX and CRO teams?Where does brand fit in?

Mar 5, 2025 • 17min
Focus on creating original, expert-driven content with real stories and insights - with Jade Pruett
Jade Pruett shares the importance of focusing on creating original, expert-driven content with real stories and insights - and that Google rewards value over keyword stuffing.Discussion points include:What does the best original content look like at the moment?What do you mean by expert-driven content?Can you use internal and external experts?What kind of real stories and insights do Google prefer?What is your preferred way of producing this type of content?Should we try to produce vide, audio and written content at the same time?How do you structure your content for maximum impact? (Visual content and coding)Do you advise creating social posts from this content?How does expert-driven content fit into a marketing strategy?

Mar 4, 2025 • 19min
In 2025, SEO strategies will prioritise user experience - Fabio Embalo
In this episode, Fabio Embalo shares that in 2025, SEO strategies will prioritise user experience, leverage AI-driven content and branding synergy, and emphasise mobile-first indexing, as search engines evolve to deeply understand user intent and content relevance.Discussion points include:How do we use AI and Machine Learning to analyse search trends?And what about content strategies - how do we use AI and Machine Learning to refine that?Can we use it to better understand user intent?How is search changing through the more prominent use of visual and voice search?And how is mobile use evolving and how is that impacting SEO?How do you optimise for user experience?Is quality always better than quantity?Where does branding fit into this?
Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts
Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.