
SEO in 2025
SEO is continuing to change at an alarming pace. And yet, in some sense, the principles of good SEO remain the same.
Hello, and welcome to SEO in 2025 – a significant repository of current thinking from many of the world’s leading SEOs.
We're pleased to be able to welcome you to the fourth book and fourth series in this podcast, now well and truly an annual tradition, brought to you by Majestic.
“Consider this book the Bible of SEO—a comprehensive, fresh, and highly actionable resource that sets the standard in the industry each year.”
PAM AUNGST CRONIN
President/Owner, PamAnnMarketing.com
“SEOin2025 is the best up-to-date, comprehensive resource out there to understand the main SEO trends and how to stay ahead next year.”
ALEYDA SOLIS
International SEO Consultant & Founder, Orainti
“I’ve been participating in this series for years now and have found the value to be consistently high!”
KEVIN INDIG
Growth Consultant, Kevin-Indig.com
“The ‘SEO in’ series has become my annual touchstone to get an overview of what some of the best in the industry are thinking.”
MARK WILLIAMS-COOK
Director, AlsoAsked/Candour
“The SEO in 2022, 2023, 2024 and now 2025 is by far my favorite way to refresh my SEO knowledge and get some inspiration before the new year. It is also super helpful for planning priorities or things to test in the following year. That's the book for December! Thank you for this initiative. I don't think this is definitely the best of the best books with SEO tips.”
OLGA ZARR
SEO Consultant at SEOSLY
“David's annual edition where the world’s leading SEOs share their number 1, actionable tip is an essential book for any digital marketer who wants to create actionable and valuable strategies for the year ahead and am honoured to be part of 2025's edition. The different skillsets of selected SEOs mean you'll be spoilt for choice on the different approaches to SEO and how they are valuable to you, your business and you clients.”
ALEX MOSS
Principal SEO, Yoast & Co-Founder, FireCask
“Once again, David has brought together some of the brightest minds in the industry and squeezed them together to produce raw, distilled insight. This is a must-read for anybody wanting to get ahead online.”
JONO ALDERSON
Independent Technical SEO Consultant
“The annual SEO book by Majestic and David is truly the ultimate SEO cheat code of the year! It's packed with timeless strategies and smart approaches—no shortcuts here, just solid insights for sustainable success. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, this book has something for everyone. I'm honoured to be part of a community of elite SEOs sharing our knowledge to help others succeed. This is a must-read!”
DRE DE VERA
Host/Producer, SEO Video Show
Latest episodes

Jul 16, 2025 • 19min
It's hard to imagine a future in which building a brand is a negative ROI activity - Greg Heilers
Greg Heilers shares that it's hard to imagine a future in which building a brand is a negative ROI activity.Talking points include:Why is building a brand so important for SEO in 2025?Why is this likely to be just as important in the future?In relation to SEO, what do you have to do to build a successful online brand?What are the specific SEO activities that contribute to brand success?How do you measure the impact of brand on SEO?How do you measure the ROI of these activities?How do you incorporate brand SEO into a marketing strategy?

Jul 9, 2025 • 19min
The Yin and Yang of SEO: being human in an AI-driven world - with Kerstin Reichert
Kerstin Reichert discusses the importance of the Yin and Yang of SEO - being human in an AI-driven world.Talking points include:How do you stay human in an AI-driven world?What do you mean by an AI-driven world?You recommend using AI to quickly scale - what does that look like?How do you use AI to enhance processes?How do you use AI to produce better insights?How do you use AI to remain competitive?How do you continue to show your human side, authenticity and expertise - and what good does this do?

Jul 2, 2025 • 25min
AI is an influencer, PR is vital, and CRO is going to be more integrated into SEO - Bruce Clay
Bruce Clay shares that SEO will be more important in the future: AI is an influencer, PR is vital, and conversion rate optimization going to be more integrated into the SEO effort.Discussion points include:Is SEO more important than it used to be?What do you mean when you say that AI is an influencer?When you say that PR is vital, how does PR fit into the SEO world and what aspects of PR are key for SEO?What does conversion rate optimization have to do with SEO?How do you measure the impact of conversion rate optimization on SEO?How do you plan an SEO strategy with so many considerations in mind?What will SEO look like in a year's time?

Jun 25, 2025 • 14min
Expertise combined with opinions of people is what matter - with Gagan Ghotra
Gagan Ghotra shares that expertise combined with opinions of people is what matter.Discussion points include:How do you demonstrate expertise in content?Why are opinions of people important?How do you incorporate opinions in content?How do you measure the success of this strategy in search engines?How should this be incorporated into a content strategy?How do you measure the success of this strategy?How is AI impacting this strategy?

Jun 18, 2025 • 18min
Focus on Relevancy, with Less Outreach, Fewer Links, and Less Content - with Vince Nero
Vince Nero advises focusing on relevancy in 2025, meaning less outreach, fewer links, and less Content.Discussion points include:Why is less more?What do you mean by focusing on relevancy?Why less outreach?Why fewer links?Why less content?What does this mean for strategy?How do you track success?How do you persuade senior managers that less is more?

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Jun 11, 2025 • 17min
There are proven ways to smartly rank better in the AI models - with Jon Mest
Jon Mest shares that there are proven ways to smartly rank better in the AI models.Talking points include:What does ranking better in AI models actually mean in practice?What measurable impact does this have?How do you measure leads from AI models?Is ChatGPT the best source of leads?How do you SEO for AI models?How is the space continuing to evolve?Read the full transcript of Jon's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/additional-insights/jon-mest

Jun 10, 2025 • 17min
Learn anything through identifying your transferable skills - with Petra Kis-Herczegh
Petra Kis-Herczegh shares how you can learn anything through identifying your transferable skills.Talking points include:Why should you just keep on learning, no matter what you’re learning?How do you know what you are learning will be useful in the future?How do you know what to focus on?What skills tend to be transferable?How do you identify transferable skills?How do you stay motivated to keep on learning?How does mindset come into this?How do we continually adapt our approach to learning over time?How does this help us find another job?What if we’re recruiting? Should we be looking for continuous learning as an important skillset in someone that we’re interviewing?Read the full transcript of Petra's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/petra-kis-herczegh

Jun 9, 2025 • 17min
Small changes can make a big impact - with Adelina Bordea
Adelina Bordea shares that small changes can make a big impact.Talking points include:What are the small changes you are talking about?How do you know which small changes will have the biggest impact?How do you know what changes to make?How do you measure the impact these changes have?How do you work with other internal teams to get these changes done?What if it's likely to take a long time to get some basic changes done?You say it is important to have a roadmap - what do you mean by this and what does a roadmap look like?Read the full transcript of Adelina's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/adelina-bordea

Jun 6, 2025 • 18min
Invest in expanding your skillset - with Giulia Panozzo
Giulia Panozzo shares about the importance of investing in expanding your skillset.Talking points include:What is changing in SEO?What additional skills need to be learned?What soft skills need to be learned?What adjacent topics need to be learned?Where are some of the best places to learn?How often should you learn?How should you share what you learn in your own organisation?How can you be sure that you are using your time effectively and learning the right things?Read the full transcript of Giulia's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/giulia-panozzo

Jun 5, 2025 • 18min
SEO is much more than it has ever been - with Emina Demiri-Watson
Emina Demiri-Watson shares that SEO is much more than it has ever been.Discussion points include:What are the key new trends of SEO to stay on top of?- Search has developed (strong performance of UGC platforms such as Reddit, AIO roll-out, development of Perspectives, recent core updates and emphasis on brand in search, TikTok as a search engine…). - User journey is not linear - finally it's dawning on companies!- Attribution is not really possible - particularly in the age of privacy! - One touch point is certainly not enough (no longer true even in ecommerce)How does an SEO stay on top of things without stretching themselves too thinly?Read the full transcript of Emina's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/emina-demiri-watson