

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
Episodes
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Jun 8, 2023 • 1h 8min
Episode 152: Design Fiction Come to Life w/ Julian Bleecker
Philip spends time designer Julian Bleecker, author of The Manual of Design Fiction. In their conversation they discuss how the practice of design fiction can help think about potential future(s) and create tangible artifacts that assist in world building. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Attack on Titan (Hulu//Crunchyroll)
Julian’s Drop:
2023 Work Kit of Design Fiction Special Guest: Julian Bleecker.

May 25, 2023 • 1h 6min
Episode 151: Making Revolutionary Love w/ Dr. Joy James
Philip spends time with scholar Dr. Joy James. In their conversation they discuss her latest work In Pursuit of Revolutionary Love, how Love is a radical political force for activists and organizers and a central principle for making a new world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: S
ign O’ the Times – Prince
Songs in the Key of Life – Stevie Wonder
Joyi’s Drop: Sinnerman –
Nina SimoneSpecial Guest: Dr. Joy James.

May 18, 2023 • 1h 3min
Episode 150: Decolonizing Design w/ Dr. Dori Dunstall
Philip spends time with OCAD University’s Dean of Design Dori Tunstall, author of Decolonizing Design: A Cultural Justice Handbook, In their conversation they trace the lineage of the decolonizing movement, how it has evolved and what needs to happen for there to be a universal acceptance of this movement.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Terence Trent D’arby (Sananda Maitreya) – Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D’arby
Dori’s Drop:
Design Justice: Community Led Practices to Build the Worlds We Need --- Sasha Costanza-Chock Special Guest: Dr. Dori Dunstall.

May 11, 2023 • 1h 4min
Episode 149: Palo Alto: Culture & Capitalism w/ Malcolm Harris
Philip spends time with Malcolm Harris, author of Palo Alto: A History of California, Capitalism, and the World. In their conversation they dive into the long winding history of California broadly and Palo Alto specifically to better understand how these specific cultures have shaped Silicon Valley and the tech industry globally.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Wanderlust – Durand Bernarr
Malcolm’s Drop:
How to Blow Up a Pipeline – Andreas Malm -
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/movies/how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline-review.htmlSpecial Guest: Malcolm Harris1.

May 4, 2023 • 1h 4min
Episode 148: Breakthrough to Thriving w/ Wayne Visser
Philip spends time with Wayne Visser, author Thriving: The Breakthrough Movement to Regenerate Nature, Society and the Economy. In their conversation they examine the thesis of moving to a regenerative society, what it takes and who stands to benefit.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Corporation (documentary)
Wayne’s Drop:
Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring The Planet – George Monbiot

Apr 27, 2023 • 1h 2min
Episode 147: Preparing for War & White Christian Nationalism w/ Bradley Onishi
Philip spends time with author and podcaster Bradley Onishi, the author of Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism and What Comes Next. In their conversation they discuss the consistent threat of white Christian Nationalism, what it means for the United States socially and politically.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Mrs. America (Hulu) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9244556/
Exterminate All the Brutes (HBO Max) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8396314/
Bradley’s Drop: Virgin Nation – Sara Moslener https://global.oup.com/academic/product/virgin-nation-9780199987764?cc=us&lang=en&

Apr 20, 2023 • 54min
Episode 146: A Pilgrim’s Journey w/ Dr. Agustin Chevez
Philip spends time with Dr. Agustin Chevez, author of The Pilgrim’s Guide to the Workplace. In their discussion they focus on Gus’s pilgrimage through Australia, the power of movement and walking as a meditation and what he learned about life and work along his journey.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Wayne Shorter
Gus’s Drop:
The Most Human Human – Brian Christian Special Guest: Dr. Agustin Chevez.

Apr 13, 2023 • 1h 4min
Episode 145: Community As Rebellion w/ Dr. Lorgia Carcia Pena
Philip spends time with scholar/author Dr. Lorgia Garcia Pena. In their conversation, they discuss her work Community As Rebellion, the triumphs and traps of academia and how to navigate hostile environments while building and maintaining community.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Physical 100 (Netflix) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt25274446/
Lorgia’s Drop: Solito: A Memoir – Javier Zamora https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/705626/solito-by-javier-zamora/

Apr 6, 2023 • 1h 10min
Episode 144: The Language of Trees w/ Katie Holten
Philip spends time with artist/activist/author Katie Holten. In this conversation they discuss her latest book The Language of Trees, the power of rewilding and how we entangle ourselves with non-human beings.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Glory (Netflix)
Katie’s Drop:
Reservation Dogs (Hulu//FX)

Mar 30, 2023 • 58min
Episode 143: Black(ness) in the Country w/ Hillarie Maddox
Philip spends time with Hillarie Maddox, founder of Black Girl Country Living magazine and podcast. They discuss her move from high tech career and urban living to a country lifestyle centered in nature.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Harlem (Amazon Prime)
Hillarie’s Drop:
[Is That Black Enough For You? (Netflix) ](That Black Enough For You? (Netflix))Special Guest: Hillarie Maddox.