
The Deep Dive
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
Latest episodes

Oct 21, 2022 • 55min
Episode 126: Complexity & Genius w/Jennifer Garvey Berger
Philip spends time with thinker and author Jennifer Garvey Berger discussing her new book Unlock Your Complexity Genius. In their conversation, they explore how we think about and process complexity and in turn leverage that thinking to understand ourselves and the world we inhabit.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Borgen (Netflix) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1526318/
Jennifer’s Drop:
Ted Lasso (Apple TV) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/
Flight of the Conchords (HBO Max) -
http://www.flightoftheconchords.co.nz/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0863046/Special Guest: Jennifer Garvey Berger.

Oct 13, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 125: The Case Against the Sexual Revolution w/ Louise Perry
Philip spends time with writer and campaigner against male sexual violence Louise Perry, author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution. In their conversation Philip and Louise explore her thesis that the sexual revolution has not the liberating and progressive force that was advertised.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Bad Sisters (Apple TV)
Louise’s Drop:
The Rest Is History (podcast) Special Guest: Louise Perry.

Oct 6, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 124: Gangsters of Capitalism w/ Jonathan Myerson Katz
Philip spends time with historian Jonathan Myerson Katz, author of Gangsters of Capitalism, Smedley Butler, The Marines and the Making/Breaking of America’s Empire. In their conversation they trace the origins of the American Empire and how it relates to our current social, economic and political reality.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Di4Ries (Netflix)
Jonathan’s Drop:
The Dispossessed – Ursula K. LeGuin

Sep 29, 2022 • 53min
Episode 123: Maps and Thinking about the Future w/ Richard Watson
Philip spends time with Richard Watson, Futurist in Residence at the Entrepreneurship Centre at the Judge School, Cambridge University. The discuss his work Digital Vs Future, the power of maps and how we think about the human experience in an increasingly digital future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
[Prey (Hulu)](Prey (Hulu) )
Richard’s Drop:
Future Shock – Alvin Toffler
Lawrence of Arabia
The Invitation
Summerland
The Worst Journey in the World – Apsley Cherry-Garrard
Intimate History of Humanity – Theodore Zeldin
https://nowandnext.com/PDF/Mega%20Trends%20and%20Technologies%202017-2050%20(Web).png
https://nowandnext.com/PDF/Terra%20Incognita%20-%20a%20map%20of%20current%20and%20future%20uncertainties.pdfSpecial Guest: Richard Watson.

Sep 22, 2022 • 1h 8min
Episode 122: The Myth of Capitalism w/ Denise Hearn
Philip spends time with the Denise Hearn, advisor, author, and project catalyzer. Denise is the co-author of The Myth of Capitalism and publishes regularly on her platform Embodied Economics. In their conversation they tackle the mythology of capitalism, how it effects current policy and imagination and what (if anything) can be done about it.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Industry (HBO Max) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7671070/
Denise’s Drop: Half Moon Run https://www.halfmoonrun.com/
Embodied Economics https://embodied-economics.ghost.io/

Sep 15, 2022 • 43min
Episode 121: White Christian Nationalism and American Democracy w/ Philip S. Gorski & Samuel L. Perry
Philip spends time with the authors of The Flag + The Cross, Philip S. Gorski & Samuel L. Perry. In their conversation they trace the origins of white Christian nationalism, how it manifests in the American cultural zeitgeist and what it means for the nations democracy.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
For All Mankind (Apple TV)
Philip Gorskis’s Drop:
Jesus and John Wayne – Kristin Kobes Du Mez
Samuel Perry’s Drop:
The Bible Told Them So – J. Russell HawkinsSpecial Guests: Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry .

Sep 8, 2022 • 1h 5min
Episode 120: Survival of the Richest w/ Douglas Rushkoff
Philip spends time with author and thinker Douglas Rushkoff. They discuss his latest book Survival of the Richest and examine why often the richest among us believe in a bleak future pitting them against everyone else.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Upload (Amazon Prime)
Douglas’s Drop:
TrueAnon (podcast) Special Guest: Douglas Rushkoff.

Aug 4, 2022 • 1h 6min
Episode 119: Design After Capitalism w/ Matt Wizinsky
Philip spends time with designer, researcher, educator, and author Matt Wizinsky. They discuss his book Design After Capitalism and trace how capitalism impacts design decisions, thinking and process and how to counteract and change those narratives in a post capitalism world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Robotech Visual Archives Volumes 1 – 3
(various booksellers)
Matt’s Drop:
The Dawn of Everything – David Graeber and David Wengrow Special Guest: Matt Wizinsky.

Jul 28, 2022 • 59min
Episode 118: A Legend Shares Deep Truths w/ Drew Dixon
Philip spends time with music producer and activist Drew Dixon. Philip and Drew reflect on her legendary music career, the ground breaking music and artists she worked with and nurtured while enduring misogyny and sexual assault in the industry and subsequently sharing her truth as part of the #MeToo Movement.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Bartees Strange – Farm to Table
Drew’s Drop:
Dj KhalilSpecial Guest: Drew Dixon.

Jul 21, 2022 • 1h 5min
Episode 117: Social Justice and Reframing Brand Strategy w/ Dr. Anastasia Kārkliņa Gabriel
Philip spends time with brand strategist, Dr. Anastasia Kārkliņa Gabriel discussing how her activism and background inform her work as a public intellectual and brand expert. They discuss the role of culture and racial capitalism and how it effects and frames brand engagement.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Good Luck Leo Grande (via Hulu)
Anastasia’s Drop:
Finding Me – Viola Davis Special Guest: Dr. Anastasia Kārkliņa Gabriel.