

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 15min
Episode 132: From Xero to 100 w/ Joseph Illidge
Philip spends time with writer, creator and comic book expert/enthusiast Joseph Illidge. In their conversation they discuss the legacy of storytelling through the comic medium as well as the importance of diverse perspectives and the power of intellectual property and creative ownership.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Andor (Disney+)
Joseph’s Drop:
Will – Will Smith

Dec 2, 2022 • 1h
Episode 131: Public Bathrooms & the Public Good w/ Lezlie Lowe
Philip spends time with Lezlie Lowe, the author of No Place To Go, an incredible scholarly breakdown of what the lack of public bathrooms means for our public space. What opportunities do we miss when we fail to engage in both the private and public conversation about public bathrooms.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: From Scratch (Netflix)
Lezlie’s Drop: Old Enough (Netflix)
Empire of Pain – Patrick Radden Keefe Special Guest: Lezlie Lowe.

Nov 17, 2022 • 1h 9min
Episode 130: Becoming Kin w/Patty Krawec
Philip spends time with author and scholar Patty Krawec. In their conversation, they discuss Patty’s new book Becoming Kin and the importance of centering Indigenous perspectives and sovereignty and how it is necessary to connect unforgetting and reimagining to develop new future(s).
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: via listener Eion Higgins The Minefield (Australian radio show) https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/theminefield
Patty’s Drop: Elite Capture – Olufemi O. Taiwo https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1867-elite-capture
Thor: Ragnarok (Disney+) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3501632/

Nov 10, 2022 • 1h 6min
Episode 129: Going Beyond a Human Centered World w/Ron Wakkary
Philip spends time with Ron Wakkary, author of Things We Could Design for More Than Human Centered Worlds. In their conversation, they discuss how design and its focus on the human perspective has had significant costs to the non-human//natural world around us. How can designers think differently to incorporate a wider perspective that in turn opens up new alternatives.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Thomas Hardy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hardy
Ron’s Drop:
Suzanne Simard
Richard Powers Special Guest: Ron Wakkary.

Nov 3, 2022 • 1h 1min
Episode 128: Building Beloved Economies w/ Jess Rimington
Philip spends time with Jess Rimington, author of Beloved Economies. In their conversation they discuss the reasoning behind the concepts that make up beloved economies, how to make them real in the world and why this is so vital to building new institutions and relationships with economics.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The U.S and the Holocaust
Jess’s Drop:
Antionette D. Carroll
adrienne maree brown

Oct 27, 2022 • 58min
Episode 127: Living The Agrarian Spirit w/Norman Wirzba
Philip spends time with Norman Wirzba, author of the new book The Agrarian Spirit. In their conversation Philip and Norman explore the philosophical tenants of the agrarian spirit as a movement designed to confront the myriad and overlapping challenges of modernity.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists – Eleanor D. Payson
Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents – Lindsay C. Gibson
Norman’s Drop:
Don’t Hesitate – Mary Oliver Special Guest: Norman Wirzba.

Oct 21, 2022 • 55min
Episode 126: Complexity & Genius w/Jennifer Garvey Berger
Philip spends time with thinker and author Jennifer Garvey Berger discussing her new book Unlock Your Complexity Genius. In their conversation, they explore how we think about and process complexity and in turn leverage that thinking to understand ourselves and the world we inhabit.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Borgen (Netflix) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1526318/
Jennifer’s Drop:
Ted Lasso (Apple TV) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/
Flight of the Conchords (HBO Max) -
http://www.flightoftheconchords.co.nz/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0863046/Special Guest: Jennifer Garvey Berger.

Oct 13, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 125: The Case Against the Sexual Revolution w/ Louise Perry
Philip spends time with writer and campaigner against male sexual violence Louise Perry, author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution. In their conversation Philip and Louise explore her thesis that the sexual revolution has not the liberating and progressive force that was advertised.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Bad Sisters (Apple TV)
Louise’s Drop:
The Rest Is History (podcast) Special Guest: Louise Perry.

Oct 6, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 124: Gangsters of Capitalism w/ Jonathan Myerson Katz
Philip spends time with historian Jonathan Myerson Katz, author of Gangsters of Capitalism, Smedley Butler, The Marines and the Making/Breaking of America’s Empire. In their conversation they trace the origins of the American Empire and how it relates to our current social, economic and political reality.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Di4Ries (Netflix)
Jonathan’s Drop:
The Dispossessed – Ursula K. LeGuin

Sep 29, 2022 • 53min
Episode 123: Maps and Thinking about the Future w/ Richard Watson
Philip spends time with Richard Watson, Futurist in Residence at the Entrepreneurship Centre at the Judge School, Cambridge University. The discuss his work Digital Vs Future, the power of maps and how we think about the human experience in an increasingly digital future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
[Prey (Hulu)](Prey (Hulu) )
Richard’s Drop:
Future Shock – Alvin Toffler
Lawrence of Arabia
The Invitation
Summerland
The Worst Journey in the World – Apsley Cherry-Garrard
Intimate History of Humanity – Theodore Zeldin
https://nowandnext.com/PDF/Mega%20Trends%20and%20Technologies%202017-2050%20(Web).png
https://nowandnext.com/PDF/Terra%20Incognita%20-%20a%20map%20of%20current%20and%20future%20uncertainties.pdfSpecial Guest: Richard Watson.