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The Divine Council Worldview Podcast

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Aug 12, 2024 • 1h 20min

EP023: Genesis 17 & the Covenant of Ishmael

In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss Genesis 17 and the story of Ishmael. They explore the possibility that Ishamel made a covenant with a divine being other than Yahweh, even a god disloyal to Yahweh. They discuss the theological and historical implications of this view, particularly in relation to the rise of Muslim tradition and its attachment to Ishmael. The episode concludes with a discussion on the significance of circumcision, its meaning in the ancient world, and its possible significance as a sign of the covenant between Abraham and Yahweh.
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Aug 4, 2024 • 1h 8min

EP022: Genesis 16 and the Angel of the Lord

In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss Genesis 16 and the being known as "the Angel of the Lord." They begin by acknowledging that differences of opinion will be common when dealing with the word 'angel,' the transliteration of a Latin word appearing in the Wycliffe Bible of the 14th century. Ronn argues that 'angel' does not accurately represent the Hebrew term for 'messenger' (mal'ak) because it has become packed with unhelpful connotations of meaning over time. Ronn and Mike conclude the podcast by exploring the use of first person speech patterns used by messengers (both human and divine) in the ancient Near East.
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Jul 28, 2024 • 1h 5min

EP021: Genesis 15 and the Land Promise

In this episode, Ronn and Mike conclude their study of Genesis 15. Their topics of conversation include the meaning of righteousness and its connection to loyalty and promise-keeping in the story of Abraham. They also consider the significance of the land promise as the early patriarchs understood it and how it evolves throughout the biblical narrative. They conclude with an exploration of the concept of "nationing" and the possible role of borders in the new creation.
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Jul 22, 2024 • 1h 32min

EP020: Transforming Perspectives: From Church Teachings to Real-World Impact

Step into a world where the supernatural intersects with everyday life. In this episode, Mel is once again joined with co-host, Rich, as they interview Pastor Jim Bergen from Flatirons Community Church, Boulder, CO, and delve into the journey of his awakening to a worldview shaped by the Divine Council and its profound impact on our reality. Imagine the transformative power when this perspective infuses teaching, discipleship, and spiritual warfare within the church. Yet, bringing this understanding into congregational life isn’t without challenges. It demands careful preparation, defining terms, and exploring the significance of sacred spaces. But how does this cosmic perspective translate into practical application? Discover how recognizing our creation in God's image influences our approach in society and shapes how we treat others with dignity. Moreover, the church isn’t just a place of worship; it's a beacon for addressing social challenges and making a positive impact in our communities through both teaching and action. Explore the cosmic geography of peace and its pivotal role in both personal lives and the church’s engagement with society - embracing the importance of confronting life's dark and challenging aspects head-on. Join us as we navigate the messy and difficult topics that often go unaddressed, guided by a commitment to deep Bible study that will help you make divine council worldview teachings accessible even to new believers. Don’t miss out on this eye-opening journey that promises to reshape your understanding of faith, community, and the supernatural forces at play in our world today.
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Jun 30, 2024 • 1h 5min

EP019: Genesis 15 and Abraham's Loyalty

In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss the concept of Abraham's righteousness as won through his allegiance to Yahweh in the story of Genesis 15. They explore the idea of believing loyalty (Hebrew, aman) and how it is often misunderstood in evangelical circles when defining the gospel. They highlight the importance of understanding the OT cultural context behind the concept of faith, even recommending that we take the English word "faith" out of our vocabulary when trying to explain the story of Abraham's commitment to Yahweh. The conversation concludes by summarizing the NT meaning of what it means to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Jun 23, 2024 • 1h 7min

EP018: Genesis 14: Melchizedek & The God Most High

In this episode Ronn and Mike discuss the meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek in Genesis 14, even considering whether this kind of story supports the idea of divine portals or “heavenly gates” in the biblical narrative (Gen 12:8; 13:4; 28:11-12; 35:7). Most interesting to this story, of course, is their joint realization that they worshipped the same deity (el-elyon, ‘the high god’ cp. Pss 9:2; 7:17; 82:6; Isaiah 14:14; Luke 1:20, 32). This suggests that Yahweh (who had not revealed his name to either man at this point) was actively working behind the scenes in the lives of both individuals long before they met.
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Jun 20, 2024 • 1h 7min

EP017: Genesis 12 & 13: Undoing the Covenants of Babel

In this episode, Ronn and Mike recommend that Genesis 12 and 13—the story of Abraham beginning to worship Yahweh while rejecting his tribal gods of Babylon—sets the framing story for the Bible as a whole. These early narratives are not concerned with sin and forgiveness, in other words, nor even the expectation of a Messiah. They instead answer the question of which deity a person needs to worship in order to be blessed and to be a blessing to others. It is suggested that a Creation/Covenants/Crisis model of the Old Testament's big story should replace the Creation/Crisis/Covenant outline that we so often hear about. The stories of Genesis 12 & 13 tell of a normal man facing natural fears who yet covenants with the right god. The fact that Yahweh would have been understood as a minority (even unknown) deity at this point makes the plot all the more fascinating.
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Jun 13, 2024 • 1h 8min

EP016: Divine Foundations: Embracing Obedience in Everyday Missions

Get ready to be inspired, challenged, and equipped to make a difference in the world around you! In this episode, Mel delves into the transformative power of meaningful interactions and the importance of open minds and hearts when sharing Biblical insights. He emphasizes putting knowledge into action in making disciples, urging listeners to share their personal stories of divine guidance in everyday moments. Mel expounds on missionary work, highlighting that it’s not just about far-off lands, but also about nurturing relationships within our own families. Amidst the discussion, Mel navigates the poignant absence of his co-host Rich, who has been battling medical issues and will be back in future episodes, reminding us all of the power of prayer and support. Tune in to discover how you can be part of God’s grand plan and make a lasting impact right where you are!
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Jun 4, 2024 • 1h 12min

EP015: Genesis 12 & the God’s Covenant with Abraham

The discussion centers on God's covenant with Abram in Genesis 12, highlighting its implications for mankind amidst idolatry. Personal anecdotes reveal the impact of different Bible translations on understanding scripture. Insights into Abram's polytheistic background and his calling emphasize the shift towards worshiping Yahweh. There’s an exploration of modern spirituality intertwined with cultural customs and the identity of Israel, suggesting an inclusive understanding of Gentiles within the covenant. Overall, it reflects on Abraham’s enduring legacy and faithfulness.
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May 28, 2024 • 57min

EP014: Genesis 11 & the Tower of Babel

The discussion revolves around the iconic Tower of Babel, revealing its purpose as an attempt to worship created deities. The hosts delve into the origins of language and its connection to the diversity of nations. The theological implications of Babel are explored, particularly how human ambition intersects with divine authority. Additionally, the podcast emphasizes the essential theme of true worship, arguing that misdirected worship is humanity's core dilemma. The journey from idolatry to devotion highlights the transformative faith of figures like Abraham.

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