The Divine Council Worldview Podcast

EP059: Interview w/Dr. Matthew Bates on "Beyond the Salvation Wars"

May 18, 2025
In this discussion, Dr. Matthew Bates, a New Testament scholar and author of 'Beyond the Salvation Wars,' delves into the complexities of faith among various Christian denominations. He explores the Greek term 'pistis' and its implications for understanding loyalty to Christ, while addressing misconceptions about grace between Protestants and Catholics. Bates emphasizes the need for church unity and the importance of allegiance to the Gospel, proposing a fresh perspective on kingship in faith that could bridge the divides within Christianity.
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Pistis Means Loyalty and Faith

  • The Greek word pistis carries a broad semantic range including faith, fidelity, and loyalty.
  • Responding to Jesus as King involves a qualitative loyalty, not just intellectual assent.
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Faith Opposed To Pagan Loyalties

  • Early Jewish believers viewed faithfulness to Jesus as allegiance within their existing monotheistic context.
  • As the gospel expanded into Greco-Roman contexts, faith in Jesus contrasted with loyalties to pagan deities.
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Complexity of Grace Between Traditions

  • Protestants often misunderstand Catholics as denying grace, but Catholics understand grace differently.
  • Grace involves varied dimensions like abundance and deservingness, making it more complex than simple free gift.
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