The Divine Council Worldview Podcast

In this episode, Ronn & Mike explore Nicodemus' interview with Jesus as recorded in John 3:1-21. They discuss the possiblew misconceptions surrounding the Mosaic law, the Jewish expectations of what a messiah would accomplish, the nature of Jesus' teachings, and the meaning behind the term 'born again.' The conversation highlights the historical context of the Pharisees and their relationship with Jesus, as well as the broader themes of Gentile inclusion and understanding what kind of thought world Jesus would have shared with someone like Nicodemus. 

Recorded live at the DCW Conference in Indianapolis, Mel sits down with Jason Bostow, host of the Ring Them Bells podcast, for a powerful conversation on the legacy of Dr. Michael Heiser. They explore Heiser’s impact on biblical scholarship, the need for interdisciplinary boldness, and the personal stories inspiring Jason’s upcoming documentary.

In this discussion, Dr. Matthew Bates, a New Testament scholar and author of 'Beyond the Salvation Wars,' delves into the complexities of faith among various Christian denominations. He explores the Greek term 'pistis' and its implications for understanding loyalty to Christ, while addressing misconceptions about grace between Protestants and Catholics. Bates emphasizes the need for church unity and the importance of allegiance to the Gospel, proposing a fresh perspective on kingship in faith that could bridge the divides within Christianity.

In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss the final three verses of John 2. This short passage allows their conversation to develop at length the concepts of “belief" and “faith” in both the Old Testament (Hebrew, aman) and the New Testament (Greek, pisteou). The study details the implications of Jesus' understanding of belief and loyalty when it comes to his expectation of “following” him into eternal life. Along the way they emphasize the importance of viewing faith as an expression of loyalty rather than as a passive acceptance of Jesus’ work on the cross, in the end critiquing modern theological interpretations of faith.

In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss Jesus’ cleansing of the Temple in John 2:13-22. They use this opportunity to then talk through the complexities of the Old Testament law, its interpretation within evangelicalism, and the historical context of the temple's significance. Their discussion highlights how Jesus' fulfillment of the law is often misunderstood and emphasizes the importance of cultural context in understanding biblical texts that deal with the challenges of how to understand biblical law in the modern age. They conclude by exploring the relationship between God’s giving of law and his desire to form a family which, in the end, does not need law in order to function.

In this episode of the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, Mel and Rich sit down with Jeff Lees to explore his remarkable journey from skepticism to a vibrant faith shaped by ministry, creativity, and the teachings of Dr. Michael Heiser. Jeff opens up about his time in youth ministry, his transition into art and toy design, and how these paths intersect through a deep passion for community and storytelling. Together, they challenge traditional interpretations of scripture, discuss the meaning of being image bearers of God, and highlight the transformative power of Christian creativity—including a bold vision for toys that bring biblical narratives to life. This conversation invites listeners into a thoughtful and open dialogue about faith, identity, and innovation.

In this episode, Ronn and Mike explore the significance of Jesus’ first recorded miracle, his turning of water into wine at the wedding of Cana. They discuss the implications and nature of miracles in the context of faith to Yahweh, especially in context of John’s original audience which would have known that created divine beings could perform miraculous deeds as well. Their conversation touches on personal experiences of miracles, the unique aspects of John's Gospel, and the possible reasons behind Jesus' miracles.

Delve into the profound declaration of Jesus as the 'Lamb of God' and its implications for atonement. The discussion connects ancient sacrificial practices with contemporary faith while exploring the roles of the Spirit in Jesus and Peter's ministries. Gain insights into biblical concepts of sin, emphasizing the transformative power of Christ's sacrifice. The episode encourages listeners to rethink grace and forgiveness, advocating for a relational approach in theological practice.

In this episode, Ronn and Mike study John 1:19-28, noting how John the Baptist’s story was pivotal in understanding Jesus’ identity. They discuss how John’s prophetic ministry faced resistance from Jewish leadership, how John’s practice of baptism functioned as an act of allegiance in early Christianity, and how the concept of a “messiah” (even "the messiah”) evolved in both the Old and New Testaments. Their conversation emphasized the importance of understanding the cultural background of the first century for all aspects of biblical interpretation, especially as it relates to defining the role and identity of Jesus. 📢 Announcing the Image Conference! 📢   The Michael S. Heiser Foundation proudly presents the Image Conference, an inspiring event dedicated to exploring the role of image in trauma recovery and community engagement. This first-ever Michael S. Heiser Foundation LIVE event celebrates the continuation of Dr. Heiser’s legacy, bringing together a powerful lineup of speakers and discussions designed to educate, inspire, and connect.   Join Drenna Heiser-Hollander, Rich Baker, Dr. Ronn Johnson, Fern & Audrey, Pastor Darnell Williams, and others as we explore one of the Pillars of the Divine Council Worldview: The Image. Together, we’ll hear impactful stories of how image plays a vital role in healing, including how Rich Baker brought a message of hope to those experiencing trauma on the streets of Berkeley, California. For those seeking deeper theological insights, Dr. Ronn Johnson will present scholarly lectures such as The Image of God and Jesus’ Atonement.   This is more than a conference—it’s an opportunity to learn, connect, and fellowship with like-minded brothers and sisters as we carry forward the work set before us.   Register, FOR FREE, here: https://michaelsheiserfoundation.org/the-image-conference/

In this episode, Ronn, Mike, Mel, and Rich come back together as a podcasting team to reflect on a year's worth of episodes, adjustments, and hopes for the DCW, Dr. Heiser's legacy, the work of the Michael S. Heiser Foundation, and the glimmers of change within society at large. They talk about their thoughts and feelings on having lost Dr. Heiser over two years, including the questions they still have and the shared common bond they have to each other because of their mutual mentor, friend, and brother in the faith. 📢 Announcing the Image Conference! 📢   The Michael S. Heiser Foundation proudly presents the Image Conference, an inspiring event dedicated to exploring the role of image in trauma recovery and community engagement. This first-ever Michael S. Heiser Foundation LIVE event celebrates the continuation of Dr. Heiser’s legacy, bringing together a powerful lineup of speakers and discussions designed to educate, inspire, and connect.   Join Drenna Heiser-Hollander, Rich Baker, Dr. Ronn Johnson, Fern & Audrey, Pastor Darnell Williams, and others as we explore one of the Pillars of the Divine Council Worldview: The Image. Together, we’ll hear impactful stories of how image plays a vital role in healing, including how Rich Baker brought a message of hope to those experiencing trauma on the streets of Berkeley, California. For those seeking deeper theological insights, Dr. Ronn Johnson will present scholarly lectures such as The Image of God and Jesus’ Atonement.   This is more than a conference—it’s an opportunity to learn, connect, and fellowship with like-minded brothers and sisters as we carry forward the work set before us.   Register, FOR FREE, here: https://michaelsheiserfoundation.org/the-image-conference/