
Middle East Focus
Weekly discussion of Middle East policy, arts, and culture, featuring experts from the Middle East Institute in Washington, D.C.
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Apr 22, 2025 • 53min
Toni Verstandig on What We’ve Learned—and Forgotten—About Peace
In this episode of Taking the Edge off the Middle East, Brian Katulis sits down with Toni Verstandig, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and current board member at the Middle East Institute. Three months into the second Trump administration, they assess how the White House is reshaping US policy in the Middle East—what’s changed, what’s stayed the same, and what risks lie ahead. Verstandig reflects on lessons from her years working on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process during the Clinton era, offering both poignant stories and policy insights from a time when diplomacy looked very different. They also discuss how think tanks like MEI are stepping up at a moment when institutions like USIP and the Wilson Center are under fire. Don’t forget to look out for new episodes of Taking the Edge off the Middle East on its own independent channel every other Tuesday, wherever you get your podcasts.

Apr 17, 2025 • 41min
Two Years of War in Sudan and the Elusive Path to Peace
As Sudan’s civil war enters its third year, the humanitarian catastrophe continues to spiral, with more than 12.7 million people displaced and little hope of resolution in sight. Jehanne Henry, MEI Associate Fellow and former Africa Director at Human Rights Watch, joins hosts Alistair Taylor and Matthew Czekaj to assess the latest developments on the ground. She outlines the scale of devastation, the regional spillover effects, and the war economy fueling the fighting. Their conversation explores the fragmentation of civilian political forces, the lack of international coordination, and the role that external powers — including the United States — could play in helping bring the conflict to an end. What will it take to chart a path toward peace? Recorded on Monday, April 15, 2025 Read Jehanne's accompanying article: Two years into Sudan’s war, a resolution seems further than ever — can U.S. involvement help bring peace? Look out for new episodes of Middle East Focus every Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

Apr 10, 2025 • 45min
Netanyahu and Israel at War
(This episode was recorded on Monday, April 7). In this episode of Middle East Focus, hosts Alistair Taylor and Matthew Czekaj are joined by Eran Etzion, former deputy head of the Israeli National Security Council, for a revealing look inside Israel's most pressing challenges. Etzion unpacks Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's tightening grip on power amid legal battles and democratic concerns, while offering insights into Israeli society's deepening divides. Their conversation moves beyond the headlines to explore how renewed fighting in Gaza and military operations in the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria are changing Israel's strategic position in the region. They also explore Israel's evolving relationships with regional countries like Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia, and what these changes mean for the future of the Middle East. Look out for new episodes of Middle East Focus every Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

Apr 8, 2025 • 52min
Frank Lowenstein | Ep. 10
In this episode of 'Taking the Edge off the Middle East,' Brian Katulis sits down with Frank Lowenstein, a key advisor to Secretary John Kerry during the Obama administration. Lowenstein takes us behind the curtain of the Obama administration's intense peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians, from narrowly escaping a snowstorm in Ramallah to advising Secretary Kerry during critical moments. They discuss the Biden and Trump approaches to the region and explore how Middle East policy debates have evolved in American politics over three decades. Don’t forget to look out for new episodes of 'Taking the Edge off the Middle East' every other Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.

Apr 3, 2025 • 33min
Diplomacy, Technology, and Innovation: Amb. Stuart Jones on the Evolution of US-Middle East Relations
Stuart Jones, the new president and CEO of MEI, boasts a rich background as a U.S. ambassador with extensive experience in the Middle East. He delves into the geopolitical shifts following the Hamas attack and the evolving U.S.-Middle East dynamics. Jones shares insights from his time in Iraq during a crisis with ISIS, exploring military and humanitarian challenges. He also discusses the region's economic diversification and the importance of U.S.-Iraq partnerships in technology and infrastructure, highlighting the complexities of modern diplomacy.

Apr 1, 2025 • 57min
Rethinking Democracy Ep. 7: The Protests and Political Crisis Shaping Turkey's Democratic Future
Dr. Karabekir Akkoyunlu, a research associate at SOAS University of London and author on democratic resistance, and Dr. Senem Aydın Düzgit, a professor at Sabancı University specializing in Turkey-EU relations, delve into Turkey's recent political upheaval. They discuss the arrest of Istanbul Mayor Ekrem İmamoğlu and the surge of protests against Erdoğan's regime. The conversation highlights the erosion of democratic processes, the role of coalition-building among the opposition, and the critical influence of EU relations on Turkey's autocratic shift.

Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 13min
Dan Shapiro | ‘Taking the Edge Off the Middle East’ ep. 9
Note: We're excited to announce that 'Taking the Edge Off the Middle East' is moving to its own channel! Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts to continue following the show. --- Middle East Focus Presents: ‘Taking the Edge Off the Middle East’ with Brian Katulis A series of casual conversations with leading policy professionals on the most important happenings in the Middle East today — hosted by MEI’s Senior Fellow Brian Katulis. In this episode, Brian is joined by former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, who recently served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East. They discuss the Trump administration’s early approach to the region in its second term, including its handling of Iran, Gaza, and regional normalization efforts. Drawing on his decades of experience across the NSC, State Department, and Pentagon, Dan shares his candid assessments of what’s working, what’s not, and what’s still unsettled. He also reflects on his own career path and what young people interested in U.S. foreign policy can learn from decades of peacemaking efforts.

Mar 4, 2025 • 1h 15min
Ibrahim Dalalsha and Shira Efron| 'Taking the Edge Off the Middle East' Ep. 8
Middle East Focus Presents: ’Taking the Edge Off the Middle East,' a series of casual conversations with leading policy professionals on the most important happenings in the Middle East today - hosted by MEI’s Senior Fellow Brian Katulis. Ibrahim Dalalsha, founder and director of Horizon Center for Political Studies and Media Outreach, and Shira Efron, research director at the Israel Policy Forum, join host Brian Katulis to discuss policy developments in the devastating war between Israel and Hamas, and how Israelis and Palestinians can work together toward a peaceful resolution of conflict.

Feb 13, 2025 • 21min
NYT bestselling author Kwame Alexander on the intersection of art and social change
Renowned poet, producer, and New York Times bestselling author Kwame Alexander joins guest host Lyne Sneige to discuss the power of storytelling and the intersection of art and social change. Looking back on his recent experience speaking at the 2024 Riyadh International Book Fair in Saudi Arabia, Alexander shares his reflections on the Kingdom's literary scene, the growing appetite for global narratives, and how books and poetry can serve as bridges between cultures.

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Feb 6, 2025 • 43min
Barbara A. Leaf | 'Taking the Edge Off the Middle East' Ep. 7
Barbara A. Leaf, a seasoned diplomat and former US Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, joins the discussion to illuminate pressing issues in the Middle East. She delves into the potential responses of a second Trump administration to emerging 'black swan' events. The conversation covers the complexities of U.S. policy in Syria, the impact of humanitarian aid freezes, and the shifting geopolitical landscape involving Iran and the Hamas-Israel conflict. Leaf's insights underscore the critical need for effective diplomacy in ensuring regional stability.
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