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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
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May 29, 2025 • 55min
136. Ed Miliband: Farage, Starmer and The Fight for Net Zero (Part 2)
Ed Miliband, former Leader of the Labour Party and current Shadow Secretary for Energy Security and Net Zero, discusses his recovery from the 2015 election defeat and his commitment to politics. He debates climate strategies and the road to achieving net zero, tackling perspectives from figures like Tony Blair and Nigel Farage. Ed also reflects on the challenges of maintaining authenticity in politics and balancing personal life with public responsibilities, while advocating for a more passionate approach to government responsibilities.

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May 25, 2025 • 57min
135. Ed Miliband: Blair, Brown, and Battling his Brother (Part 1)
Ed Miliband, former Leader of the Labour Party and current Shadow Secretary for Climate Change, shares the impact of his Holocaust-survivor upbringing on his political views. He humorously recounts being dubbed 'Emissary from planet F***' while mediating the Blair-Brown dynamic. Ed also discusses the emotional complexities of his family, including his rivalry with his brother during the leadership race, and reflects on how socioeconomic challenges shape today's political landscape. Dive into the anecdotes that reveal the intersection of personal and political life.

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May 18, 2025 • 60min
134. Palestine's Most Popular Politician: Marwan Barghouti's Son on Occupation, Resistance, and Hope
In this engaging conversation, Arab Barghouti, son of imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti, sheds light on his father's enduring popularity and the impact of his legacy amidst ongoing conflict. He discusses the role of alternative leadership in Palestine, emphasizing hope and resilience. The podcast delves into transformative educational initiatives for prisoners and the emotional complexities of resistance under occupation. Additionally, Arab calls for international support in Palestine's quest for autonomy, illuminating a path toward potential peace.

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May 11, 2025 • 1h 6min
133. Trump vs. Europe: Flattery, Pushback, and Powerplays (Congressman Jim Himes)
Jim Himes, Congressman from Connecticut's 4th district and a former finance expert, discusses whether Europe can trust the U.S. again post-Trump. He reflects on the moral decline in American politics and the Democratic Party's challenges in connecting with voters. Himes delves into the erosion of democracy, the complexity of bipartisanship, and the shifting dynamics within the Five Eyes intelligence alliance. He shares insights on rebuilding transatlantic relations and the need for ethical leadership amid rising populism.

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May 4, 2025 • 1h 9min
132. Former Head of MI6: Russia, China, and Trump (Sir Alex Younger)
Sir Alex Younger, the former head of MI6, offers a compelling insight into the world of intelligence and its evolving challenges. He delves into the complexities of national security in a digital age and the shifting dynamics of Britain’s role in global affairs. Younger discusses the impact of U.S. withdrawal from international support and rising threats from Russia and China. He also reflects on moral responsibility in espionage and shares personal anecdotes that illuminate the nuanced relationship between politicians and intelligence services.

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Apr 27, 2025 • 1h 6min
131. The Global Health Crisis: USAID cuts, Trump, and the limits of AI (Atul Gawande)
Atul Gawande, a renowned surgeon and public health researcher, sheds light on the dire consequences of recent USAID funding cuts for global health programs. He examines the potential rise in preventable deaths and the vulnerability of essential health services for marginalized communities. Gawande also critiques the notion of AI as a panacea for healthcare issues and discusses the critical intersection of politics, trust in institutions, and climate change in shaping future health outcomes.

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Apr 20, 2025 • 1h 12min
130. The Prime Minister of Australia: Trump, China, and Social Media (Anthony Albanese)
Anthony Albanese, the Prime Minister of Australia and leader of the Australian Labor Party, shares insights on navigating complex global relationships, particularly with China and the U.S. He discusses the pivotal role of social media in politics and the Australian government's efforts to protect young users. In a personal revelation, Albanese reflects on his emotional journey to reunite with his long-lost father. He also touches on the voice referendum for Indigenous rights and the media's considerable influence on political discourse in Australia.

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Apr 13, 2025 • 1h 13min
129. Trump’s America: Fear, Polarisation, and The Future (Ezra Klein)
In this engaging discussion, commentator and journalist Ezra Klein, co-founder of Vox and columnist for The New York Times, sheds light on the intricacies of American political polarization. He explores whether this divide is a result of conscious political strategies or a self-inflicted wound. Ezra also critiques the role of social media, particularly TikTok, in deteriorating public intelligence. The conversation touches on the challenges facing the Biden administration and the evolving dynamics of leadership within the Democratic Party.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 3min
128. Whips, Chaos, and secrets from Westminster (Simon Hart)
Simon Hart, the former Tory Chief Whip and MP, shares his insights after years in the chaotic corridors of Westminster. He explores why unsuitable candidates become MPs and calls for a reformation of Parliament. Hart discusses the impact of Brexit and the challenges new MPs face, particularly within the Whips Office. He also humorously reflects on the peculiar obsession with knighthoods among Tory members. Expect candid stories about political turmoil under Boris Johnson and the emotional toll of navigating personal and political identities in today's climate.

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Mar 30, 2025 • 48min
127. Donald Trump vs American Freedom: Who Wins? (Moises Naim)
Moises Naim, a journalist and former Venezuelan minister, dives into the perilous state of American democracy. He discusses the critical concepts of populism, polarization, and post-truth politics that threaten freedoms. Naim highlights youth disillusionment with political systems and the urgent need for innovative reforms to re-engage this demographic. He warns of the enduring challenges posed by populist leaders and the complexities of misinformation. The conversation also touches on the evolving dynamics between democracy and dictatorship in today’s world.