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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
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132. Former Head of MI6: Russia, China, and Trump (Sir Alex Younger)
Sir Alex Younger, the former head of MI6, offers a compelling insight into the world of intelligence and its evolving challenges. He delves into the complexities of national security in a digital age and the shifting dynamics of Britain’s role in global affairs. Younger discusses the impact of U.S. withdrawal from international support and rising threats from Russia and China. He also reflects on moral responsibility in espionage and shares personal anecdotes that illuminate the nuanced relationship between politicians and intelligence services.

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Apr 27, 2025 • 1h 6min
131. The Global Health Crisis: USAID cuts, Trump, and the limits of AI (Atul Gawande)
Atul Gawande, a renowned surgeon and public health researcher, sheds light on the dire consequences of recent USAID funding cuts for global health programs. He examines the potential rise in preventable deaths and the vulnerability of essential health services for marginalized communities. Gawande also critiques the notion of AI as a panacea for healthcare issues and discusses the critical intersection of politics, trust in institutions, and climate change in shaping future health outcomes.

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Apr 20, 2025 • 1h 12min
130. The Prime Minister of Australia: Trump, China, and Social Media (Anthony Albanese)
Anthony Albanese, the Prime Minister of Australia and leader of the Australian Labor Party, shares insights on navigating complex global relationships, particularly with China and the U.S. He discusses the pivotal role of social media in politics and the Australian government's efforts to protect young users. In a personal revelation, Albanese reflects on his emotional journey to reunite with his long-lost father. He also touches on the voice referendum for Indigenous rights and the media's considerable influence on political discourse in Australia.

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Apr 13, 2025 • 1h 13min
129. Trump’s America: Fear, Polarisation, and The Future (Ezra Klein)
In this engaging discussion, commentator and journalist Ezra Klein, co-founder of Vox and columnist for The New York Times, sheds light on the intricacies of American political polarization. He explores whether this divide is a result of conscious political strategies or a self-inflicted wound. Ezra also critiques the role of social media, particularly TikTok, in deteriorating public intelligence. The conversation touches on the challenges facing the Biden administration and the evolving dynamics of leadership within the Democratic Party.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 3min
128. Whips, Chaos, and secrets from Westminster (Simon Hart)
Simon Hart, the former Tory Chief Whip and MP, shares his insights after years in the chaotic corridors of Westminster. He explores why unsuitable candidates become MPs and calls for a reformation of Parliament. Hart discusses the impact of Brexit and the challenges new MPs face, particularly within the Whips Office. He also humorously reflects on the peculiar obsession with knighthoods among Tory members. Expect candid stories about political turmoil under Boris Johnson and the emotional toll of navigating personal and political identities in today's climate.

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Mar 30, 2025 • 48min
127. Donald Trump vs American Freedom: Who Wins? (Moises Naim)
Moises Naim, a journalist and former Venezuelan minister, dives into the perilous state of American democracy. He discusses the critical concepts of populism, polarization, and post-truth politics that threaten freedoms. Naim highlights youth disillusionment with political systems and the urgent need for innovative reforms to re-engage this demographic. He warns of the enduring challenges posed by populist leaders and the complexities of misinformation. The conversation also touches on the evolving dynamics between democracy and dictatorship in today’s world.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
126. Israel, Gaza, and the United Nations (Francesca Albanese)
Francesca Albanese, a Special Rapporteur on human rights in Palestinian territories, shares her insights on the UN's role and the responsibility of Western media in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She discusses her Italian heritage's influence on her commitment to justice and the impact of echo chambers on news consumption in the region. Albanese also addresses the psychological toll of documenting human rights violations and the complexities of advocating amidst accusations of anti-Semitism, emphasizing the need for accountability and dialogue.

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Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 13min
125. Peter Kyle: AI, grief, and the power of Elon Musk
Peter Kyle, the UK Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology, shares powerful insights from his journey as an aid worker shaped by grief. He discusses the urgency for visionary leadership in the Labour Party, addressing challenges post-Brexit. The conversation highlights the role of AI in society, ethics, and the importance of European unity in global relations. Kyle candidly reflects on how personal loss influences political perspectives and the need for a proactive approach to national and technological challenges.

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Mar 10, 2025 • 55min
124. The Man Who Got To Trump (Michael Wolff)
Michael Wolff, an American journalist and author, known for his provocative insights on Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch, discusses his unique access to Trump's inner circle. He reveals the complex dynamics among Trump's aides and how media narratives have been manipulated. The conversation also delves into the shifting relationship between Trump and Murdoch, especially post-January 6th. Wolff highlights the risks of sensationalism in politics and how Trump's celebrity obsession shapes his leadership style, providing a fascinating look at contemporary political power.

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Mar 3, 2025 • 2h 6min
123. Canada Decides: Who will be the next Prime Minister? (Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney)
In this engaging discussion, Chrystia Freeland, former Deputy Prime Minister and finance minister, teams up with Mark Carney, ex-Governor of the Bank of England and a Prime Ministerial hopeful. They delve into Canada’s political landscape, addressing the challenges posed by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre and the influence of figures like Donald Trump. Key topics include agriculture’s role in Canadian identity, the impact of populism, and the necessity for unity among progressives amidst a shifting political climate. Their insights illuminate the strategic importance of Canada in global alliances.
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