The Rest Is Politics: Leading 160. Michael Gove: Education, Brexit, and Trump (Part 2)
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Nov 3, 2025 
Michael Gove, a Senior Conservative politician and former cabinet minister, discusses his transformative vision for UK education and the complexities behind Brexit. He debates the 'messy' political future and considers Nigel Farage a potential savior over Labour. Gove reflects on his controversial decisions, including the impact of Dominic Cummings, while addressing the need for political judgment. He also shares insights on housing challenges and the dual nature of Trump's influence, emphasizing the role of trust and public perception in politics.
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Gove Mentored A New Prisons Minister
- Rory Stewart recounts Gove personally mentoring him when Stewart became prisons minister, giving long detailed briefings.
- Stewart emphasises Gove's serious, engaged approach that won departmental confidence.
Make Ministers Act Fast
- Ministers must act quickly because ministerial tenure ends unpredictably and time is limited.
- Michael Gove argues ministers should identify system incentives and fix structural causes, not just rage at problems.
High Academic Bar For All
- Gove insists academic rigour should be available to every child, not just an elite few.
- He argues a knowledge-rich, ambitious curriculum narrows inequality by raising standards for disadvantaged pupils.