
The Rest Is Politics: Leading
The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
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Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
126. Israel, Gaza, and the United Nations (Francesca Albanese)
Francesca Albanese, a Special Rapporteur on human rights in Palestinian territories, shares her insights on the UN's role and the responsibility of Western media in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She discusses her Italian heritage's influence on her commitment to justice and the impact of echo chambers on news consumption in the region. Albanese also addresses the psychological toll of documenting human rights violations and the complexities of advocating amidst accusations of anti-Semitism, emphasizing the need for accountability and dialogue.

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Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 13min
125. Peter Kyle: AI, grief, and the power of Elon Musk
Peter Kyle, the UK Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology, shares powerful insights from his journey as an aid worker shaped by grief. He discusses the urgency for visionary leadership in the Labour Party, addressing challenges post-Brexit. The conversation highlights the role of AI in society, ethics, and the importance of European unity in global relations. Kyle candidly reflects on how personal loss influences political perspectives and the need for a proactive approach to national and technological challenges.

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Mar 10, 2025 • 55min
124. The Man Who Got To Trump (Michael Wolff)
Michael Wolff, an American journalist and author, known for his provocative insights on Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch, discusses his unique access to Trump's inner circle. He reveals the complex dynamics among Trump's aides and how media narratives have been manipulated. The conversation also delves into the shifting relationship between Trump and Murdoch, especially post-January 6th. Wolff highlights the risks of sensationalism in politics and how Trump's celebrity obsession shapes his leadership style, providing a fascinating look at contemporary political power.

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Mar 3, 2025 • 2h 6min
123. Canada Decides: Who will be the next Prime Minister? (Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney)
In this engaging discussion, Chrystia Freeland, former Deputy Prime Minister and finance minister, teams up with Mark Carney, ex-Governor of the Bank of England and a Prime Ministerial hopeful. They delve into Canada’s political landscape, addressing the challenges posed by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre and the influence of figures like Donald Trump. Key topics include agriculture’s role in Canadian identity, the impact of populism, and the necessity for unity among progressives amidst a shifting political climate. Their insights illuminate the strategic importance of Canada in global alliances.

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Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 1min
122. How Europe can survive Trump (Frans Timmermans)
Frans Timmermans, a prominent Dutch politician and former vice-president of the European Commission, dives into the complexities of modern geopolitics. He discusses the challenges Europe faces with the rise of populist leaders like Trump and the implications of Brexit on EU unity. Timmermans emphasizes the need for innovative collaborations in energy and trade, while cautioning against potential Trump-Putin agreements that could destabilize the continent. He reflects on the importance of maintaining progressive values amid the shifting political landscape in Europe.

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Feb 17, 2025 • 57min
121. Yulia Navalnaya: The Woman Who Could Bring Down Putin
In this insightful conversation, Yulia Navalnaya, wife of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, shares her relentless fight against the Putin regime. She discusses her husband’s courageous return to Russia and the harsh realities of political oppression. Yulia reflects on the challenges of growing up in post-Soviet Russia and the need for democracy. The conversation also touches on the psychological impacts of loss as she navigates her family's grief while continuing their shared mission for change. Insightful and poignant, it sheds light on the struggle for freedom in Russia.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 10min
120. The New President of Syria: Trump, Palestine, and having a $10 million bounty on your head (Ahmed al-Sharaa)
Ahmed al-Sharaa, the newly appointed President of Syria, shares his transformative journey from an imprisoned al-Qaeda leader to a political figure. He discusses the psychological toll of living a hidden life for over two decades. Al-Sharaa emphasizes the importance of unity amid Syria's division and advocates for constructive dialogue to rebuild the nation. He reflects on President Trump's influence in the Middle East and highlights the critical need for economic development in post-conflict Syria, all while navigating the complexities of his leadership role.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 5min
119. Tommy Vietor: How Democrats can fight Trump
Tommy Vietor, an American political commentator and former Obama speechwriter, dives into the intricacies of American politics today. He reflects on Barack Obama’s path to the presidency and examines Hillary Clinton's critical error in 2016. The conversation tackles the influence of misinformation and the challenges for Democrats against Donald Trump. They discuss the need for a strong liberal response and highlight the importance of effective messaging in navigating the evolving political landscape as the 2024 elections approach.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 23min
118. Ex-Head of Mossad: Hamas, Ceasefire, and Netanyahu (Uzi Arad)
Uzi Arad, the former head of Mossad and national security advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, shares his insight on the complex dynamics of Israeli intelligence and political leadership. He discusses the intricate relationship between intelligence agencies and their political counterparts. Arad evaluates the recent ceasefire, outlining its implications for all parties involved. He also explores potential shifts in leadership within Gaza, the effects of corruption on national security, and the challenging quest for a two-state solution amidst shifting global dynamics.

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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 5min
117. Is the UN fit for purpose? (Tom Fletcher)
Tom Fletcher, a British diplomat and current UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs, shares his insights on pressing global issues. He discusses the evolving role of the UN amidst a retreating US influence and the urgent need for reforms. The conversation dives into the humanitarian crises in conflict zones like Sudan and Gaza, emphasizing empathy and effective responses. Fletcher also touches on the challenges posed by technology and geopolitical shifts, calling for innovative approaches to diplomacy and international collaboration.