
Food People by Bon Appétit
Food People is a show about how food and drinks shape society. On every episode of Food People, we talk about how we eat and why food matters. Join Bon Appétit’s Editor-in-Chief Jamila Robinson and the magazine’s editors as we bring you interviews with renowned voices from the food world, behind-the-scenes details into how the magazine is made, and insight from our latest stories.
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Nov 14, 2022 • 32min
What are the foods that made us fall in love?
Between the candlelit dinners, the big chocolate hearts, and the bottles of bubbly, Valentine’s Day is definitely a food holiday if you want it to be. Eating is romantic! And you don’t have to take our word for it. This year, we’re swallowing our cynicism and sharing stories of meet-cutes, first dates, and romantic meals from a few of our favorite couples in the world of food. Listen to find out how a paella helped seal the deal, how a plate of chilaquiles opened hearts, and what happens when you meet your soulmate in the BA test kitchen.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Morganstern’s Finest Ice Cream website https://www.morgensternsnyc.com/
Tasty Hand-Pulled Noodles website https://www.tastyhandpullednoodlesnyc.com/
de Porres website https://www.de-porres.com/
Essex Market website https://www.essexmarket.nyc/
Lil’ Deb’s Oasis website https://www.lildebsoasis.com/
Taqueria Milear website https://taqueriamilear.com/
Taqueria Milear Instagram https://www.instagram.com/taqueriamilear/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Nov 14, 2022 • 36min
What are our secret weapon ingredients?
The January slump is hitting, and cooking is starting to feel pretty dull. But rather than giving up entirely, we’re leaning on the power of our pantries. Instead of re-inventing the wheel (of cheese?), we can rely on a few tried and true staples that we always have around, and use them in new and inventive ways. This week on the podcast, Amanda chats with associate food editor Kendra Vaculin and recipe developer extraordinaire Hetty McKinnon, who spill the tea about a few of their favorite year-round flavor boosters. Then, Ken Concepcion and Michelle Mungcal from Now Serving LA—a beloved cookbook shop that you should absolutely visit in LA’s Chinatown—stop by to share a few secret weapon cookbooks you’ll actually end up using.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Kimchi Kooks website https://www.kimchikooks.com/
Hetty McKinnon’s One-Pot Kimchi and Squash Mac and Cheese recipe https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/one-pot-kimchi-and-squash-mac-and-cheese
To Asia, With Love by Hetty McKinnon https://amzn.to/3xCjMqR
Recipes from To Asia, with Love featuring Mushroom and Kimchi ‘Sausage Rolls’ https://www.goodfood.com.au/recipes/news/four-recipes-from-to-asia-with-love-by-hetty-mckinnon-20200716-h1peny
Hetty McKinnon’s Sheet Pan Kimchi Fried Rice with Baked Eggs recipe https://www.today.com/recipes/sheet-pan-kimchi-fried-rice-baked-eggs-recipe-t173872
Priya Krishna’s Saag Paneer, But With Feta recipe https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/saag-paneer-but-with-feta
Kendra Vaculin’s Spinach-Artichoke Dip Frittata recipe https://www.epicurious.com/the-smart-cook/spinach-dip-frittata-easy-dinner-article
Brooklyn Delhi Saag Paneer recipe https://brooklyndelhi.com/blogs/news/saag-paneer
Shilpa Uskokovic’s Creamy Spinach and Chickpeas recipe https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/creamy-spinach-and-chickpeas
Hetty McKinnon’s Thai Curry Risotto recipe https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1021947-thai-curry-risotto-with-squash-and-green-beans
Now Serving - Los Angeles website
Ken and Michelle’s Cookbook Recommendations:
Everyone’s Table: Global Recipes for Modern Health by Gregory Gourdet with JJ Goode https://amzn.to/3GznANb
Aloha Kitchen: Recipes from Hawai’i by Alana Kysar https://amzn.to/3FDEGZ0
Thank You for Smoking: Fun and Fearless Recipes Cooked with a Whiff of Wood Fire on Your Grill or Smoker by Paula Disbrowe https://amzn.to/3AitvE8
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Nov 14, 2022 • 35min
What does “healthy eating” even mean?
It’s New Year's resolution season, which has a lot of us thinking about eating healthier. That word, “healthy,” can mean so many different things to so many different people—so much so that finding a good definition can be pretty tough. But senior food editor Christina Chaey's new series of recipes from our annual Healthyish issue are a good starting point. This week on the podcast, Christina joins Amanda to talk through what she’s been cooking so far in 2022, then associate editor Ali Francis stops by to talk medicinal mushrooms, comfort foods, and more wellness trends we’re expecting to see a lot of in the year to come.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Christina Chaey’s Sticky and Spicy Baked Cauliflower recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/sticky-and-spicy-baked-cauliflower
Christina Chaey’s Cheesy Tomato Beans with Broccoli Rabe recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cheesy-tomato-beans-with-broccoli-rabe
Ali Francis’ 2022 Health Trend Predictions:
Golde Shroom Shield: https://fave.co/33kZgzH
RASA Original – Adaptogenic Mushroom Coffee Alternative: https://amzn.to/3F6b5XS
Snow Days Pizza Bites website : https://fave.co/3HUAZzN
Goodles website: https://goodles.com/
GIGANTIC! Candy website: https://giganticcandy.com/
FLO Vitamins : https://flovitamins.com/products/flo-pms-gummy-vitamins?variant=32465558831207¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiAweaNBhDEARIsAJ5hwbd_X2bkoTjFdSkrt6ILX0BhsOE-zlkXjbUnlA-4MGixvk17wNSJDW0aAo1XEALw_wcB
Phasey Seed Cycling Blend : https://amzn.to/3Fe1tdw
Christina Chaey’s Chicken Soup with Rice Noodles and Scallion Crisp recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/chicken-soup-with-rice-noodles-and-scallion-crisp
Christina Chaey’s Adonis Spritz recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/adonis-spritz
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Nov 14, 2022 • 34min
What was the best thing we cooked this year?
It’s that old, familiar season, and we’re not just talking about eggnog, we’re talking about the season of “Best Of” lists. Here at BA, we’ve got plenty of best recipe round-ups in the pipeline, but those lists only tell half the story. In our eyes, the best recipes aren’t always the ones that “break the internet” (though sometimes they are—we’re looking at you Caramel Apple Cookies). They’re the ones that surprised us, taught us something new, or became our back-pocket go-tos week after week and month after month. This week, Amanda is joined by senior cooking editor Sarah Jampel and Test Kitchen director Chris Morocco to talk about which of this year’s recipes have stuck with them most. The result is a Best Of list that’s a bit less objective, a lot more opinionated, but still extremely delicious. Then, associate food editor Kendra Vaculin is back to talk about her favorite holiday recipes for kids.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
BA's official Top Ten Recipes List of 2021: https://bonappetit.com/gallery/most-popular-recipes-2021
Roxanna Jullapat’s Granola Scones recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/granola-scones
Bon Appétit on Roxanna Jullapat’s Book, Mother Grains: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/mother-grains-roxana-jullapat
Shilpa Uskokovic’s Air Fryer Chile-Honey-Glazed Fries recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/chile-honey-glazed-fries
Hetty McKinnon’s Pea and Ricotta Potstickers With Homemade Dumpling Wrappers recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/pea-and-ricotta-potstickers
Dumpling Articles from Hetty McKinnon:
How to Fold Dumplings For Novices and Experts with Hetty McKinnon: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/dumpling-folding-guide
The Many Ways to Cook Dumplings, Explained: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/dumpling-cooking-methods
Hetty’s 12 Tips for Homemade Dumplings : https://www.bonappetit.com/story/dumpling-making-tips
Hetty McKinnon’s article on the dumpling dowel: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/dumpling-dowel
Kelly Janke’s Salted Caramel Apple Cookies recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/salted-caramel-apple-cookies
Rachel Gurjar’s Yogurt-Marinated Mushrooms With Flatbread recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/yogurt-marinated-mushrooms-with-flatbread
Andy Baraghani’s Za’atar Chicken Cutlets With Cabbage Salad recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/zaatar-chicken-cutlets-with-cabbage-salad
Asha Loupy’s Cheesy Tomato Hand Pies recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cheesy-tomato-hand-pies
Red Jacket Orchards (Sarah’s Choice Apple Cider) website: https://redjacketorchards.com/
Kendra Vaculin’s Recipes for Cooking with Kids
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Nov 14, 2022 • 33min
What are Drew Barrymore and Pilar Valdes hungry for?
Drew Barrymore didn’t always love to cook. When she first lived alone, at 14 years old, she stuck to instant ramen, boxed mac and cheese, and egg-in-the-hole toasts. But as an adult, sharing food with her friends and loved ones has become one of her favorite things, and her close friend and personal chef Pilar Valdes is a big reason why. The pair met in the midst of major life transitions, and they found solace and inspiration together in the kitchen. This week, they’re on the pod with host Amanda Shapiro talking about friendship, food preferences, and their new cookbook, Rebel Homemaker: Food, Family and Life. Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Rebel Homemaker: Food, Family, Life by Drew Barrymore and Pilar Valdes: https://amzn.to/3Ey6dv2
Pilar’s Catering Company, Kickshaw Cookery: http://kickshawcookery.com/
Drew Barrymore’s Kitchenware Collection, Beautiful: https://cookwithbeautiful.com/
Frankie & Olive’s Roast Chicken Recipe: https://thehappyfoodie.co.uk/recipes/frankie-and-olives-roast-chicken/
Drew and Pilar Make Turkey Roulade (Video): https://www.thedrewbarrymoreshow.com/videos/drew-and-pilar-valdes-make-turkey-roulade-and-corn-casserole
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Nov 14, 2022 • 29min
What’s Stanley Tucci Doing for Thanksgiving?
Who but Stanley Tucci could charm us on social media with his Negroni-making skills, eat his way through Italy for a documentary series, and publish a food-heavy memoir all during a global pandemic? He’s had so much going on that we almost forgot that he’s also a Hollywood star. The man/myth/legend gave us his best tips for entertaining in our November issue, and this week on the podcast, he sits down with editor in chief Dawn Davis to chat about his favorite Thanksgiving dishes, the gifts he insists on giving, and the pasta faux-pas that you NEED to avoid. Of course, when it comes to putting on a proper feast, we can’t all be Stanley Tucci—but that doesn’t mean we can’t try. And for the hosts who need the most help, associate food editor Rachel Gurjar is back with a procrastinator’s guide to cooking a Thanksgiving meal.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Menu from Rachel Gurjar’s Thanksgiving “Procrastinator” Newsletter
Sahara Bohoskey’s Marinated Peppers with Basil and Garlic recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/peperoni
Justin Lee’s Crunchy Greens With Fat Choy Ranch recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/crunchy-greens-with-fat-choy-ranch
Gerardo Gonzalez’s Beer-and-Orange-Marinated Roast Chicken recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/beer-and-orange-marinated-roast-chicken
Cheryl Day’s Pineapple Upside-Down Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/pineapple-upside-down-cake-2
Claire Saffitz’s Fridge-Dive Pesto Pasta recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/fridge-dive-pesto-pasta
Taste: My Life Through Food by Stanley Tucci: https://www.amazon.com/Taste-My-Life-Through-Food/dp/1982168013?asc_campaign=&asc_source=&asc_refurl=https://www.bonappetit.com/story/stanley-tucci-thanksgiving&ascsubtag=61770ed22aa62461f131c295&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=46bc32f8e570b522cba622f8b07d6251&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Bon Appétit on what Stanley Tucci is doing for Thanksgiving: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/stanley-tucci-thanksgiving
Science In the Kitchen and the Art of Eating Well by Pellgrino Artusi: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Kitchen-Lorenzo-Italian-Library/dp/0802086578?hvadid=312031138203&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18077107301282618684&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1023191&hvtargid=pla-454049301060&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=47070fea873e0bf560251f361519cc31&language=en_US&ref…
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Nov 14, 2022 • 39min
What are Dorie Greenspan’s favorite cookies?
There’s a reason fans call Dorie Greenspan the “Cookie Queen.” Over her 30-year career, the James Beard Award-winning author has published 14 cookbooks, developed thousands of recipes, and built an online following years before “influencers” were even a thing. In our sweetest episode yet, she sits down with Amanda to talk about a few of her favorite cookies in her newest book, Baking With Dorie—just in time for your cookie swap. Later on, senior commerce editor MacKenzie Chung Fegan stops by with a few gift ideas for the choosiest food people on your list.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Baking with Dorie : https://amzn.to/3EaNyFA
Baking From My Home To Yours: https://doriegreenspan.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies-the-newest-version-from-dories-cookies-sneak-peek/
Bon Appétit’s Annual Cookie Section : https://www.bonappetit.com/type/cookie
Dorie’s World Peace Cookie recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies
Dorie Greenspan’s World Peace Cookie 2.0 recipe: https://doriegreenspan.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies-the-newest-version-from-dories-cookies-sneak-peek/
Dorie’s Caramel Crunch-Chocolate Chunklet Cookies recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/caramel-crunch-chocolate-chunklet-cookies
Dorie Greenspan’s Cocoa-Cornmeal Biscotti recipe: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019374-cocoa-cornmeal-biscotti
Dorie Greenspan’s Iced Spiced Hermits recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/iced-spiced-hermits
Dorie’s Bulletin, xoxoDorie: https://doriegreenspan.bulletin.com/
Bon Appétit’s Gift Guides 2021: https://www.bonappetit.com/entertaining-style/gift-guides
Alex Beggs’ Cookbook Gift Guide: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-cookbooks-2021-gift-guide
MacKenzie’s Gift Recommendations:
Hestan NanoBond Titanium Essential Pan: https://amzn.to/3EcB686
Mortadella Pool Float : https://www.katiekimmel.com/items/mortadella-pool-float
Supra Endura Beeswax Food Wraps: https://www.supraendura.com/products/copy-of-beeswax-food-wrap-in-selva-print-3-pack
Pura Salsa Macha : https://masienda.com/shop/pura-macha/?sscid=b1k5_gonu6&sscid=b1k5_11agp8
GE Profile Opal Nugget Ice Maker: https://amzn.to/2ZIkne6
To Asia, With Love by Hetty McKinnon: https://amzn.to/3xCjMqR
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Nov 14, 2022 • 29min
Can Thanksgiving ever just be simple?
Maybe you’re like us: Year after year, we tell ourselves that THIS Thanksgiving is going to be the simple one. Then, year after year, we find ourselves back in the kitchen, feeling way too stressed out while juggling 15 recipes for sides, salads, desserts, and of course, a massive turkey that refuses to finish cooking. Why do we do this to ourselves? And is there another way? Associate food editor Kendra Vaculin thinks there is, and she’s here this week, along with test kitchen director Chris Morocco, to talk through her super-simplified menu for this year’s feast, which you can find in the November issue of the magazine. Tune in for tips on maximizing oven space and hot takes on why no one needs a roasting pan. Plus, Chris makes the case for yet another “compelling and dynamic” salad.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
Bon Appétit’s Thanksgiving, Simplified Menu: https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/thanksgiving-dinner-simplified
More on Cheryl Day’s Desserts : https://www.bonappetit.com/story/cheryl-day-southern-baking
Diana Yen’s Pumpkin-Tahini Mousse Pie recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/pumpkin-tahini-mousse-pie
Kendra Vaculin’s Kale Salad With Pecan Vinaigrette recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/kale-salad-with-pecan-vinaigrette
Kendra Vaculin’s Green Beans and Mushrooms With Crispy Shallots recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/green-beans-and-mushrooms-with-crispy-shallots
Kendra Vaculin’s Stuffing Biscuits recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/stuffing-biscuits
Kendra Vaculin’s Twice-Roasted Squash With Vanilla, Maple, and Chile recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/twice-roasted-squash-with-vanilla-maple-and-chile
Kendra Vaculin’s Sheet-Pan Turkey and Gravy recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/sheet-pan-turkey-and-gravy
Nordic Ware Half Sheet Pan: https://market.bonappetit.com/products/half-sheet-1
Nordic Ware Baking and Cooling Grid : https://market.bonappetit.com/products/large-baking-cooling-grid-1
Chris Morocco’s Burnished Potato Nuggets recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/burnished-potato-nuggets
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Nov 14, 2022 • 26min
Why are pop-ups popping off?
It used to be that opening your own restaurant was the only path to gaining recognition as a chef. But these days, more and more chefs are opening pop-ups as a first step, or even an alternative, to a brick-and-mortar spot. Pop-ups can offer flexibility, freedom, and exposure without the high overhead and financial risk. But that doesn’t mean pop-up life is a walk in the park. This week on the show, Amanda talks to two LA chefs who run their own pop-ups—Rashida Holmes of Bridgetown Roti and Brandon Gray of Brandoni Pepperoni—about the pros and cons of the business model, their mixed feelings about press attention, and what chefs need to know before popping up. Stuff we talk about in this episode:
The Promises and Perils of Pop-Ups: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/promises-and-perils-of-popups
Bridgetown Roti website: https://www.bridgetownroti.com/
Brandoni Pepperoni website: https://www.brandoni-pepperoni.com/
About Chef Craig Wong: https://chefcraigwong.com/about
Santa Monica Farmers Market: https://www.smgov.net/Departments/pcd/farmercontent.aspx?id=10039
Crafted Kitchen LA website: https://www.craftedkitchenla.com/the-kitchens
Rashida Holmes and Bridgetown Roti – @bridgetownroti
Brandon Gray and Brandoni Pepperoni – @la_brandoni_pepperoni
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Nov 14, 2022 • 25min
Is the martini the best cocktail of all time?
Name a more iconic cocktail. We’ll wait. Yep, that’s what we thought. Today on the podcast, Amanda is joined by contributor Amiel Stanek, senior staff writer Alex Beggs, and senior food editor Christina Chaey to talk all about martinis: Why we love them, what makes them perfect vs. “perfect,” and how to order them properly (or make them at home). Along the way, Andrea Hernández aka the Snack Oracle comes by to try to explain why the espresso martini is making a comeback—and whether it’s here to stay. Stick around for trivia, jokes, and plenty of cocktail-shaker ASMR.Stuff we talk about in this episode:
SECO Cocktails: https://www.secococktails.com/
Bon Appétit’s Make-Ahead Martini: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/make-ahead-martini
Bon Appetit’s Classic Martini recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/classic-martini-2
Bon Appétit’s How To Speak Fluent Martini: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/how-to-make-a-martini
Andrea Hernandez’s Snaxshot: https://www.snaxshot.com/
Timothée Chalamet and Larry David: https://www.gq.com/story/timothee-chalamet-larry-david-new-york
Alex Beggs’ Latest Articles : https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/alex-beggs
Amiel Stanek’s Latest Articles: https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/amiel-stanek
Christina Chaey’s Latest Articles: https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/christina-chaey
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