Food People by Bon Appétit

Drew Barrymore didn’t always love to cook. When she first lived alone, at 14 years old, she stuck to instant ramen, boxed mac and cheese, and egg-in-the-hole toasts. But as an adult, sharing food with her friends and loved ones has become one of her favorite things, and her close friend and personal chef Pilar Valdes is a big reason why. The pair met in the midst of major life transitions, and they found solace and inspiration together in the kitchen. This week, they’re on the pod with host Amanda Shapiro talking about friendship, food preferences, and their new cookbook, Rebel Homemaker: Food, Family and Life. Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Rebel Homemaker: Food, Family, Life by Drew Barrymore and Pilar Valdes: https://amzn.to/3Ey6dv2 Pilar’s Catering Company, Kickshaw Cookery: http://kickshawcookery.com/ Drew Barrymore’s Kitchenware Collection, Beautiful: https://cookwithbeautiful.com/ Frankie & Olive’s Roast Chicken Recipe: https://thehappyfoodie.co.uk/recipes/frankie-and-olives-roast-chicken/ Drew and Pilar Make Turkey Roulade (Video): https://www.thedrewbarrymoreshow.com/videos/drew-and-pilar-valdes-make-turkey-roulade-and-corn-casserole *(When you buy something through our links, we earn an affiliate commission.) Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Who but Stanley Tucci could charm us on social media with his Negroni-making skills, eat his way through Italy for a documentary series, and publish a food-heavy memoir all during a global pandemic? He’s had so much going on that we almost forgot that he’s also a Hollywood star. The man/myth/legend gave us his best tips for entertaining in our November issue, and this week on the podcast, he sits down with editor in chief Dawn Davis to chat about his favorite Thanksgiving dishes, the gifts he insists on giving, and the pasta faux-pas that you NEED to avoid. Of course, when it comes to putting on a proper feast, we can’t all be Stanley Tucci—but that doesn’t mean we can’t try. And for the hosts who need the most help, associate food editor Rachel Gurjar is back with a procrastinator’s guide to cooking a Thanksgiving meal.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Menu from Rachel Gurjar’s Thanksgiving “Procrastinator” Newsletter Sahara Bohoskey’s Marinated Peppers with Basil and Garlic recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/peperoni Justin Lee’s Crunchy Greens With Fat Choy Ranch recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/crunchy-greens-with-fat-choy-ranch Gerardo Gonzalez’s Beer-and-Orange-Marinated Roast Chicken recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/beer-and-orange-marinated-roast-chicken Cheryl Day’s Pineapple Upside-Down Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/pineapple-upside-down-cake-2 Claire Saffitz’s Fridge-Dive Pesto Pasta recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/fridge-dive-pesto-pasta Taste: My Life Through Food by Stanley Tucci: https://www.amazon.com/Taste-My-Life-Through-Food/dp/1982168013?asc_campaign=&asc_source=&asc_refurl=https://www.bonappetit.com/story/stanley-tucci-thanksgiving&ascsubtag=61770ed22aa62461f131c295&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=46bc32f8e570b522cba622f8b07d6251&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Bon Appétit on what Stanley Tucci is doing for Thanksgiving: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/stanley-tucci-thanksgiving Science In the Kitchen and the Art of Eating Well by Pellgrino Artusi: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Kitchen-Lorenzo-Italian-Library/dp/0802086578?hvadid=312031138203&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18077107301282618684&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1023191&hvtargid=pla-454049301060&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=47070fea873e0bf560251f361519cc31&language=en_US&ref… Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

There’s a reason fans call Dorie Greenspan the “Cookie Queen.” Over her 30-year career, the James Beard Award-winning author has published 14 cookbooks, developed thousands of recipes, and built an online following years before “influencers” were even a thing. In our sweetest episode yet, she sits down with Amanda to talk about a few of her favorite cookies in her newest book, Baking With Dorie—just in time for your cookie swap. Later on, senior commerce editor MacKenzie Chung Fegan stops by with a few gift ideas for the choosiest food people on your list.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Baking with Dorie : https://amzn.to/3EaNyFA Baking From My Home To Yours: https://doriegreenspan.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies-the-newest-version-from-dories-cookies-sneak-peek/ Bon Appétit’s Annual Cookie Section : https://www.bonappetit.com/type/cookie Dorie’s World Peace Cookie recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies Dorie Greenspan’s World Peace Cookie 2.0 recipe: https://doriegreenspan.com/recipe/world-peace-cookies-the-newest-version-from-dories-cookies-sneak-peek/ Dorie’s Caramel Crunch-Chocolate Chunklet Cookies recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/caramel-crunch-chocolate-chunklet-cookies Dorie Greenspan’s Cocoa-Cornmeal Biscotti recipe: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019374-cocoa-cornmeal-biscotti Dorie Greenspan’s Iced Spiced Hermits recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/iced-spiced-hermits Dorie’s Bulletin, xoxoDorie: https://doriegreenspan.bulletin.com/ Bon Appétit’s Gift Guides 2021: https://www.bonappetit.com/entertaining-style/gift-guides Alex Beggs’ Cookbook Gift Guide: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-cookbooks-2021-gift-guide MacKenzie’s Gift Recommendations:  Hestan NanoBond Titanium Essential Pan: https://amzn.to/3EcB686 Mortadella Pool Float : https://www.katiekimmel.com/items/mortadella-pool-float Supra Endura Beeswax Food Wraps: https://www.supraendura.com/products/copy-of-beeswax-food-wrap-in-selva-print-3-pack Pura Salsa Macha : https://masienda.com/shop/pura-macha/?sscid=b1k5_gonu6&sscid=b1k5_11agp8 GE Profile Opal Nugget Ice Maker: https://amzn.to/2ZIkne6 To Asia, With Love by Hetty McKinnon: https://amzn.to/3xCjMqR *(When you buy something through our links, we earn an affiliate commission.) Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Maybe you’re like us: Year after year, we tell ourselves that THIS Thanksgiving is going to be the simple one. Then, year after year, we find ourselves back in the kitchen, feeling way too stressed out while juggling 15 recipes for sides, salads, desserts, and of course, a massive turkey that refuses to finish cooking. Why do we do this to ourselves? And is there another way? Associate food editor Kendra Vaculin thinks there is, and she’s here this week, along with test kitchen director Chris Morocco, to talk through her super-simplified menu for this year’s feast, which you can find in the November issue of the magazine. Tune in for tips on maximizing oven space and hot takes on why no one needs a roasting pan. Plus, Chris makes the case for yet another “compelling and dynamic” salad.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Bon Appétit’s Thanksgiving, Simplified Menu: https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/thanksgiving-dinner-simplified More on Cheryl Day’s Desserts : https://www.bonappetit.com/story/cheryl-day-southern-baking Diana Yen’s Pumpkin-Tahini Mousse Pie recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/pumpkin-tahini-mousse-pie Kendra Vaculin’s Kale Salad With Pecan Vinaigrette recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/kale-salad-with-pecan-vinaigrette Kendra Vaculin’s Green Beans and Mushrooms With Crispy Shallots recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/green-beans-and-mushrooms-with-crispy-shallots Kendra Vaculin’s Stuffing Biscuits recipe : https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/stuffing-biscuits Kendra Vaculin’s Twice-Roasted Squash With Vanilla, Maple, and Chile recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/twice-roasted-squash-with-vanilla-maple-and-chile Kendra Vaculin’s Sheet-Pan Turkey and Gravy recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/sheet-pan-turkey-and-gravy Nordic Ware Half Sheet Pan: https://market.bonappetit.com/products/half-sheet-1 Nordic Ware Baking and Cooling Grid : https://market.bonappetit.com/products/large-baking-cooling-grid-1 Chris Morocco’s Burnished Potato Nuggets recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/burnished-potato-nuggets Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

It used to be that opening your own restaurant was the only path to gaining recognition as a chef. But these days, more and more chefs are opening pop-ups as a first step, or even an alternative, to a brick-and-mortar spot. Pop-ups can offer flexibility, freedom, and exposure without the high overhead and financial risk. But that doesn’t mean pop-up life is a walk in the park. This week on the show, Amanda talks to two LA chefs who run their own pop-ups—Rashida Holmes of Bridgetown Roti and Brandon Gray of Brandoni Pepperoni—about the pros and cons of the business model, their mixed feelings about press attention, and what chefs need to know before popping up. Stuff we talk about in this episode:  The Promises and Perils of Pop-Ups: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/promises-and-perils-of-popups Bridgetown Roti website: https://www.bridgetownroti.com/ Brandoni Pepperoni website: https://www.brandoni-pepperoni.com/ About Chef Craig Wong: https://chefcraigwong.com/about Santa Monica Farmers Market: https://www.smgov.net/Departments/pcd/farmercontent.aspx?id=10039 Crafted Kitchen LA website: https://www.craftedkitchenla.com/the-kitchens Rashida Holmes and Bridgetown Roti – @bridgetownroti Brandon Gray and Brandoni Pepperoni – @la_brandoni_pepperoni For a transcript of this episode, please follow this link. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Name a more iconic cocktail. We’ll wait. Yep, that’s what we thought. Today on the podcast, Amanda is joined by contributor Amiel Stanek, senior staff writer Alex Beggs, and senior food editor Christina Chaey to talk all about martinis: Why we love them, what makes them perfect vs. “perfect,” and how to order them properly (or make them at home). Along the way, Andrea Hernández aka the Snack Oracle comes by to try to explain why the espresso martini is making a comeback—and whether it’s here to stay. Stick around for trivia, jokes, and plenty of cocktail-shaker ASMR.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  SECO Cocktails: https://www.secococktails.com/ Bon Appétit’s Make-Ahead Martini: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/make-ahead-martini Bon Appetit’s Classic Martini recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/classic-martini-2 Bon Appétit’s How To Speak Fluent Martini: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/how-to-make-a-martini Andrea Hernandez’s Snaxshot: https://www.snaxshot.com/ Timothée Chalamet and Larry David: https://www.gq.com/story/timothee-chalamet-larry-david-new-york Alex Beggs’ Latest Articles : https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/alex-beggs Amiel Stanek’s Latest Articles: https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/amiel-stanek Christina Chaey’s Latest Articles: https://www.bonappetit.com/contributor/christina-chaey For a transcript of this episode, please follow this link. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Even if you’re not on FoodTok, you probably know it exists . Every day, our algorithms fill our feeds with cooking hacks, recipe walkthroughs, and ambient ASMR moments. We can’t look away, but we also can’t help but wonder: Does any of it actually work? To find out, senior food editor Christina Chaey and BA’s head of video June Kim spent a day cooking meals from TikTok—yes, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. This week on the podcast, they’re reporting on how it went and giving their definitive (read: totally subjective) rankings of some of the platform’s most iconic foods. Along the way, associate editor (and FoodTok creator) Bettina Makalintal joins Amanda to talk about a few of her favorite follows on the app.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Emily Mariko’s (@emilymariko) TikTok video for Leftover Salmon Bowls: https://www.tiktok.com/@emilymariko/video/7000469368232512773?is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7005173277049390597 Amy Wilochowski’s (@amywilochowski) TikTok video for Pesto Eggs : https://www.tiktok.com/@amywilichowski/video/6955536851595758853?referer_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.today.com%2F&referer_video_id=6955536851595758853&refer=embed Alexandra Johnsson’s (@simplefood4u) Wrap Hack Demonstration TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6913548768847727877#/@simplefood4you/video/6913548768847727877 @liemessa’s original Baked Feta Pasta (uunifeta pasta) recipe and blog post: https://liemessa.fi/2020/09/baked-feta-pasta-original-recipe/ J. Kenji Lopez-Alt’s video on Baked Feta Pasta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3gvRjIQ6Lo Deb Perelman’s Baked Feta with Tomatoes and Chickpeas recipe : https://smittenkitchen.com/2021/02/baked-feta-with-tomatoes-and-chickpeas/ Bettina Makalintal’s (@bettinamak) TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@bettinamak? @eatwkriss’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@eatwkriss? @oldtimehawkey’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@oldtimehawkey?lang=en @sxmplyni’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@sxmplyni?lang=en For a transcript of this episode, please follow this link. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

This week, editor in chief Dawn Davis is back for a conversation with chef, writer, and James Beard award winner Bryant Terry about his new cookbook Black Food, a sprawling collection of essays, art, and recipes from more than a hundred Black visionaries across the globe. Our September issue features excerpts and recipes from the book, and with Black Food hitting shelves October 19, we’re welcoming him back to talk about cooking with his family, building communities through food, and whether there’s a wrong way to cook grits.Stuff we talk about in this episode: BA’s excerpt from Bryant Terry’s Black Food : https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/bryant-terry-black-food Black Food by Bryant Terry : https://amzn.to/3AQO2y7 More Books by Bryant Terry : https://www.bryant-terry.com/allbooks Bryant Terry’s Dirty South Hot Tamales With Jackfruit and Cilantro Sauce recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/hot-tamales-with-jackfruit-and-cilantro-sauce Nicole A. Taylor’s Cocoa-Orange Catfish recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cocoa-orange-catfish Kia Damon’s Sweet Potato Grits recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/sweet-potato-grits Jocelyn Delk Adams’ Cinnamon-Roll Pound Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cinnamon-roll-pound-cake More information on Bryant Terry’s imprint, 4 Color Books: https://sites.prh.com/4-color-books More recipes from Bryant Terry Grape-Tarragon Spritzer recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/grape-tarragon-spritzer Bitter Greens With Sweet Mustard Vinaigrette recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bitter-greens-mustard-vinaigrette Quick-Pickled Cauliflower recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/quick-pickled-cauliflower *(When you buy something through our links, we earn an affiliate commission.) Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

As Food People, we know our way around a dinner party—or at least, we did, before we couldn’t attend or throw any for almost two years. During that hosting hiatus we had plenty of time to think about what made dinner parties great but also what made them stressful, exhausting, and way too much work. This week on the show, Amanda talks to Test Kitchen director Chris Morocco and Associate Food Editor Zaynab Issa about the new rules they’re following when it comes to entertaining in a post-lockdown world. They debate outsourcing the main course, skipping dessert, and what makes a “compelling and dynamic” salad. Along the way, we also turn to Katherine Lewin—owner of Big Night, a brilliantly stocked, expertly curated dinner party shop in Brooklyn—for a crash course on cheese and charcuterie.Stuff we talk about in this episode: Shoui Kim’s Red Wine and Soy–Braised Short Ribs recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/red-wine-and-soybraised-short-ribs Chris Morocco’s BA’s Best Lasagna recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/ba-best-lasagna Andy Baraghani’s BA’s Best Bolognese recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bas-best-bolognese Chris Morocco’s Weeknight Ragù recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/weeknight-ragu Camille Becerra (De Maria, NY)’s Bitter Greens and Avocado Salad with Seaweed recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bitter-greens-and-avocado-salad-with-seaweed Camille Becarra’s tips for a compelling and dynamic salad: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/chicory-2017-vegetable-of-year Chris Morocco’s Radicchio Salad with Pickled Grapes and Goat Cheese recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/radicchio-salad-with-pickled-grapes-and-goat-cheese Molly Baz’s Anything-Goes Green Goddess Salad recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/green-goddess-salad Rick Martinez’s Obscenely Chocolatey Chocolate Cookies recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/double-dark-chocolate-cookies Mina Stone’s Super Lemony Olive Oil Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/super-lemony-olive-oil-cake How to Turn a Cheese Plate Into a Main Event: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

It’s practically impossible to ignore the air fryer. Much like the InstantPot a few years back, these countertop appliances promise us a faster and healthier way to cook: crunchy chicken, golden french fries, crispy vegetables with none of the downsides of deep frying. But how much can an air fryer really change the way you cook and eat? And, like, can you actually fry something with air? This week, Amanda is joined by BA senior staff writer and air fryer enthusiast Alex Beggs to talk about this latest must-have kitchen gadget, whether they can deliver on their promises, and how to decide if it’s worth the price...and the counter space. Along the way, associate food editor Rachel Gurjar stops in to talk about her sesame coconut chicken tenders and brussels sprouts with honey butter recipes (both made for the air fryer, of course). Stuff we talk about in this episode:- Gaby Melian’s Instant Pot Pork Carnitas recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/instant-pot-pork-carnitas- Bon Appétit’s Air Fryer Guide: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-air-fryer- Beggs’ Air Fryer-Centric Trader Joe’s Reviews: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/trader-joes-spring-2021-reviews- Breville Oven Air (Pro): https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BOV900BSS-Convection-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B01N5UPTZS?&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=5fdea3b0cf6c0b1978e59b6e4a32ed7e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl- Breville Mini Smart Oven: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices