Food People by Bon Appétit

Even if you’re not on FoodTok, you probably know it exists . Every day, our algorithms fill our feeds with cooking hacks, recipe walkthroughs, and ambient ASMR moments. We can’t look away, but we also can’t help but wonder: Does any of it actually work? To find out, senior food editor Christina Chaey and BA’s head of video June Kim spent a day cooking meals from TikTok—yes, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. This week on the podcast, they’re reporting on how it went and giving their definitive (read: totally subjective) rankings of some of the platform’s most iconic foods. Along the way, associate editor (and FoodTok creator) Bettina Makalintal joins Amanda to talk about a few of her favorite follows on the app.Stuff we talk about in this episode:  Emily Mariko’s (@emilymariko) TikTok video for Leftover Salmon Bowls: https://www.tiktok.com/@emilymariko/video/7000469368232512773?is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7005173277049390597 Amy Wilochowski’s (@amywilochowski) TikTok video for Pesto Eggs : https://www.tiktok.com/@amywilichowski/video/6955536851595758853?referer_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.today.com%2F&referer_video_id=6955536851595758853&refer=embed Alexandra Johnsson’s (@simplefood4u) Wrap Hack Demonstration TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6913548768847727877#/@simplefood4you/video/6913548768847727877 @liemessa’s original Baked Feta Pasta (uunifeta pasta) recipe and blog post: https://liemessa.fi/2020/09/baked-feta-pasta-original-recipe/ J. Kenji Lopez-Alt’s video on Baked Feta Pasta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3gvRjIQ6Lo Deb Perelman’s Baked Feta with Tomatoes and Chickpeas recipe : https://smittenkitchen.com/2021/02/baked-feta-with-tomatoes-and-chickpeas/ Bettina Makalintal’s (@bettinamak) TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@bettinamak? @eatwkriss’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@eatwkriss? @oldtimehawkey’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@oldtimehawkey?lang=en @sxmplyni’s TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@sxmplyni?lang=en For a transcript of this episode, please follow this link. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

As Food People, we know our way around a dinner party—or at least, we did, before we couldn’t attend or throw any for almost two years. During that hosting hiatus we had plenty of time to think about what made dinner parties great but also what made them stressful, exhausting, and way too much work. This week on the show, Amanda talks to Test Kitchen director Chris Morocco and Associate Food Editor Zaynab Issa about the new rules they’re following when it comes to entertaining in a post-lockdown world. They debate outsourcing the main course, skipping dessert, and what makes a “compelling and dynamic” salad. Along the way, we also turn to Katherine Lewin—owner of Big Night, a brilliantly stocked, expertly curated dinner party shop in Brooklyn—for a crash course on cheese and charcuterie.Stuff we talk about in this episode: Shoui Kim’s Red Wine and Soy–Braised Short Ribs recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/red-wine-and-soybraised-short-ribs Chris Morocco’s BA’s Best Lasagna recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/ba-best-lasagna Andy Baraghani’s BA’s Best Bolognese recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bas-best-bolognese Chris Morocco’s Weeknight Ragù recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/weeknight-ragu Camille Becerra (De Maria, NY)’s Bitter Greens and Avocado Salad with Seaweed recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bitter-greens-and-avocado-salad-with-seaweed Camille Becarra’s tips for a compelling and dynamic salad: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/chicory-2017-vegetable-of-year Chris Morocco’s Radicchio Salad with Pickled Grapes and Goat Cheese recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/radicchio-salad-with-pickled-grapes-and-goat-cheese Molly Baz’s Anything-Goes Green Goddess Salad recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/green-goddess-salad Rick Martinez’s Obscenely Chocolatey Chocolate Cookies recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/double-dark-chocolate-cookies Mina Stone’s Super Lemony Olive Oil Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/super-lemony-olive-oil-cake How to Turn a Cheese Plate Into a Main Event: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

This week, editor in chief Dawn Davis is back for a conversation with chef, writer, and James Beard award winner Bryant Terry about his new cookbook Black Food, a sprawling collection of essays, art, and recipes from more than a hundred Black visionaries across the globe. Our September issue features excerpts and recipes from the book, and with Black Food hitting shelves October 19, we’re welcoming him back to talk about cooking with his family, building communities through food, and whether there’s a wrong way to cook grits.Stuff we talk about in this episode: BA’s excerpt from Bryant Terry’s Black Food : https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/bryant-terry-black-food Black Food by Bryant Terry : https://amzn.to/3AQO2y7 More Books by Bryant Terry : https://www.bryant-terry.com/allbooks Bryant Terry’s Dirty South Hot Tamales With Jackfruit and Cilantro Sauce recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/hot-tamales-with-jackfruit-and-cilantro-sauce Nicole A. Taylor’s Cocoa-Orange Catfish recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cocoa-orange-catfish Kia Damon’s Sweet Potato Grits recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/sweet-potato-grits Jocelyn Delk Adams’ Cinnamon-Roll Pound Cake recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cinnamon-roll-pound-cake More information on Bryant Terry’s imprint, 4 Color Books: https://sites.prh.com/4-color-books More recipes from Bryant Terry Grape-Tarragon Spritzer recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/grape-tarragon-spritzer Bitter Greens With Sweet Mustard Vinaigrette recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/bitter-greens-mustard-vinaigrette Quick-Pickled Cauliflower recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/quick-pickled-cauliflower *(When you buy something through our links, we earn an affiliate commission.) Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

It’s practically impossible to ignore the air fryer. Much like the InstantPot a few years back, these countertop appliances promise us a faster and healthier way to cook: crunchy chicken, golden french fries, crispy vegetables with none of the downsides of deep frying. But how much can an air fryer really change the way you cook and eat? And, like, can you actually fry something with air? This week, Amanda is joined by BA senior staff writer and air fryer enthusiast Alex Beggs to talk about this latest must-have kitchen gadget, whether they can deliver on their promises, and how to decide if it’s worth the price...and the counter space. Along the way, associate food editor Rachel Gurjar stops in to talk about her sesame coconut chicken tenders and brussels sprouts with honey butter recipes (both made for the air fryer, of course). Stuff we talk about in this episode:- Gaby Melian’s Instant Pot Pork Carnitas recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/instant-pot-pork-carnitas- Bon Appétit’s Air Fryer Guide: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-air-fryer- Beggs’ Air Fryer-Centric Trader Joe’s Reviews: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/trader-joes-spring-2021-reviews- Breville Oven Air (Pro): https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BOV900BSS-Convection-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B01N5UPTZS?&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=5fdea3b0cf6c0b1978e59b6e4a32ed7e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl- Breville Mini Smart Oven: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Thanks to both outside influences and native resources, Hawaiian cuisine is incredibly diverse for such a small geographic space. But when you’re Hawai'i’s most well-known chef, everyone expects you to define it. Since beginning his career at a plate lunch restaurant, Sheldon Simeon has been an acclaimed restaurateur, a Top Chef contestant, and (most recently) a cookbook writer. He lives, breathes, and cooks Hawai’i, and this week on the show he’s here to talk about what it means to be a Hawaiian chef. He and Amanda talk about growing up on the islands, his run on Top Chef, and the crossroads he found himself at when it was over. And to spark your travel appetite, he recommends his top food spots on Maui, where he lives now. Restaurants editor Elyse Inamine—who profiled Simeon for our website—pops in along the way to rep for an often-misunderstood Hawaiian ingredient: Spam.Stuff we talk about in this episode:- Sheldon Simeon’s Guide to Maui: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/sheldon-simeon-maui- Elyse Inamine’s Profile on Sheldon Simeon: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/sheldon-simeon-hawaii-cookbook- Cook Real Hawai’i: A Cookbook by Sheldon Simeon with Garrett Snyder: https://www.amazon.com/Cook-Real-Hawaii-Sheldon-Simeon/dp/1984825836- Oki’s Seafood Corner Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/okisseafood/?hl=en- Papa’aina Maui Restaurant Website: https://www.papaainamaui.com/- Ululani’s Hawaiian Shave Ice Website: https://www.ululanishawaiianshaveice.com/- MonkeyPod Kitchen Website : https://monkeypodkitchen.com/- Star Noodle Website: https://www.starnoodle.com/visit-star-noodle-directions- Noreetuh Website: https://www.noreetuh.com/ - Elyse Inamine on How to Make Spam Musubi: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/spam-musubi- Spam musubi press : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009NEFH16?ots=1&slotNum=2&imprToken=88be0cf3-3e28-ab92-533&ascsubtag=%5B%5Dst%5Bp%5Dcjo5vcmnj000kjsyeqw99u8cz%5Bi%5D8z2rfQ%5Bu%5D11%5Bt%5Dw%5Br%5Dgoogle.com%5Bd%5DD%5Bz%5Dm&linkCode=sl1&tag=bapodcasts-20&linkId=b04a125274ff53c9a0fedb3d6160b0c5&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl- Tin Roof Website : http://www.tinroofmaui.com/- dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Opening a restaurant is notoriously hard: Long hours, thin margins, and a high chance of failure. The people who choose that path are either heroic, foolish, or a little bit of both. But to open a restaurant during a global pandemic? Well, that’s a whole new level of are-you-kidding-me.  This week on the podcast, Amanda asks Eric See (chef and owner of Ursula in Brooklyn, New York) and Subrina Collier (co-owner of Leah and Louise in Charlotte, North Carolina) what in the world they were thinking, how it’s been going, and whether or not they’d do it again. And Chef Michael Carter from another new restaurant, Down North Pizza in Philly, pops in to defend pineapple on pizza and share more toppings combos he loves.Stuff we talk about in this episode:- Ursula Restaurant Website: https://www.ursulabk.com/- Leah and Louise Restaurant Website: https://www.leahandlouise.com/- Down North Pizza Restaurant Website: https://www.downnorthpizza.com/- Chef Michael Carter’s Hawaiian Pizza with Barbecue Sauce and Beef Bacon Recipe (The Flipside): https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/hawaiian-pizza-with-barbecue-sauce-and-beef-bacon- Eric See’s New Mexican-Style Breakfast Burritos Recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/new-mexican-breakfast-burrito- Greg Collier’s Smothered Cabbage With Sausage and Hot Honey Recipe (Leah’s Cabbage): https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/smothered-cabbage-with-sausageListen and subscribe at http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople-trailer or wherever you get your podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople Apple Podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-apple Spotify: https://link.chtbl.com/ba-spotify Stitcher: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-stitcher Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Despite her work as a cookbook author, Dr. Jessica B. Harris isn’t a fan of following recipes. Nonetheless, her books have made her an authority on the history of Black foodways, as well as their immense and under-appreciated impact on American cuisine and culture. Earlier this year, her 2011 book High on the Hog was the inspiration of a Netflix docu-series of the same name, in which she’s prominently featured. This week on Food People, Bon Appétit editor-in-chief Dawn Davis sat down with the acclaimed writer and historian to discuss her earliest memories in the kitchen with her dietician mother, cooking for friends like James Baldwin and George Garin, and the best advice they have for people curious about cooking—spoiler alert: The advice is “start cooking."Stuff we talk about in this episode:- A list of Dr. Harris’ literary works including Iron Pots and Wooden Spoons, Sky Juice and Flying Fish, and My Soul Looks Back- Dr. Jessica Harris’ Red Rice recipe- Dr. Harris’ New Orleans Restaurant recommendations: - Upperline Restaurant Website- Bayona Restaurant Website - Justine Restaurant Website - Bywater American Bistro Website - N7 Restaurant Website - Dr. Jessica B. Harris’ Guide to Black Culinary History *(When you buy something through our links, we earn an affiliate commission.)Listen and subscribe at http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople-trailer or wherever you get your podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople Apple Podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-apple Spotify: https://link.chtbl.com/ba-spotify Stitcher: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-stitcher Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Whether we’re going back to the office or the classroom or just moving around the world again, for the first time in a long while, we’ve got meal prep on our minds. And it’s making us sweat. We’re supposed to think about what we’re going to eat...in advance?! To take some of the heat off, senior food editor Christina Chaey and frequent Bon Appétit contributor Hetty McKinnon are here to convince us that cooking ahead doesn’t have to be a chore or a bore...as long as you have the right recipes. . Later on, senior commerce editor MacKenzie Chung Fegan stops by to share a few of her favorite items for eating on the go. Listen in for our takes on meal prep vs. meal planning, being a two-freezer household, and how to turn your salad into...a soup???Stuff we talk about in this episode: Christina Chaey’s Freezer Edits: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/the-freezer-edit Christina Chaey on meal-prepping for one: https://www.bonappetit.com/story/how-to-meal-prep-for-one Hetty’s Peanut Butter Noodles With Cucumbers recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/peanut-butter-noodles-with-cucumbers Hetty’s Cashew Cream recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/cashew-cream Hetty’s Broccoli and Cashew Soup recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/broccoli-and-cashew-cream-soup Hetty’s Creamy Cashew Udon With Crispy Mushrooms recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/creamy-cashew-udon-with-crispy-mushrooms Hetty’s Roasted Carrots and Chickpeas With Herby Cashew Cream recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/roasted-carrots-and-chickpeas-with-herby-cashew-cream Shilpa Uskokovic’s Burnt Orange and Coriander Pork recipe: https://bonappetit.com/recipe/burnt-orange-and-coriander-roast-pork Lekue Jar To Go: https://amzn.to/3kQyJzI INKA Silverware: https://fave.co/3zCVmxC INKA Lunch Kit: https://fave.co/3t4D9Xl Klean Kanteen Food Storage Containers (Collection): https://fave.co/3DBZX5u The Bon Appétit Guide to Actually Enjoying Your Lunch at Work: https://www.bonappetit.com/gallery/g… Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Tell us you're a food person without TELLING us you're a food person. We'll go first. On this week's show, BA staffers divulge the single moments, winding paths, and everyday habits that make us food people. Associate food editor Rachel Gurjar walks us through how she went from living with her parents in Mumbai to landing her dream job at BA. Contributor DeVonn Francis tells us why, for him, being a food person means caring about far more than what's on the plate. Tune in to hear their stories, and to find out who on the BA staff drinks milkshakes for breakfast, and who lies in bed counting cheeseburgers instead of sheep.Stuff we talk about in this episode: Rachel Gurjar’s website: https://www.rachelgurjar.com/ Rachel’s Grilled Chicken Breasts With Tadka-ish Sauce Recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/grilled-chicken-breasts-with-tadka-sauce DeVonn’s Jerk Chicken Recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/video/watch/from-the-home-kitchen-devonn-makes-jerk-chicken DeVonn’s Yardy World website: https://www.yardy.nyc/ Rachel’s Peach Aperol Spritz Recipe: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/peach-aperol-spritz Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Welcome to Food People, a show from Bon Appétit made by, for, and about people who love food. Each week, BA’s editorial director Amanda Shapiro asks a serious or not-so-serious food question: What’s the best way to grill chicken? Can meal prep be less terrible? Are air fryers worth the hype? In search of answers or at least a spirited debate, she’ll bring in staffers, chefs, writers, and experts from across the culinary universe. Expect strong opinions, tons of recipe inspiration, and more food puns than we'd like to admit.Listen and subscribe at http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople-trailer or wherever you get your podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/foodpeople Apple Podcasts: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-apple Spotify: https://link.chtbl.com/ba-spotify Stitcher: http://listen.bonappetit.com/ba-stitcher For a transcript of this episode, please follow this link. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices