

Space Business Podcast
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Space is rapidly growing into an exciting ecosystem for business. In this podcast we hear from entrepreneurs, executives, investors and others about the many opportunities that exist. This podcast is produced by the Space Business Institute in partnership with the International Space University.
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Jan 27, 2023 • 46min
Space Business Podcast #91 - dearMoon crew: Karim Iliya
This is our second conversation with a crew member of the dearMoon project. Just as a reminder, dearMoon will be a circumlunar Starship mission, to which Japanese entrepreneur Yusaku "MZ" Maezawa has invited 8 artists to join him. One of those lucky 8 is the photographer, filmmaker and whale swimming guide Karim Iliya. We talk about his expectations and objectives for the mission. Enjoy!
https://karimiliya.com/
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Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
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The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:58 Hawaii, Iceland and the Moon
4:41 The most fascinating thing about the Moon
06:04 How Karim got interested in Space
8:22 The future of space exploration
11:52 Initial application for dearMoon
14:23 Taking photos in microgravity
18:42 Summary of Karim's work
22:26 Thoughts before going to Space
25:12 What would aliens photograph on Earth?
27:58 Absence of life in Space
30:00 The moment Karim found out he was selected
36:00 Research and preparations for the mission
37:54 Remaining key questions
40:37 Special items to bring along on the mission

Jan 19, 2023 • 54min
Space Business Podcast #90 - Victor Hespanha, New Shepard astronaut
Did you ever wonder what the experience of flying on Blue Origin’s suborbital New Shepard rocket is like? I certainly have. So I invited one of their recent crew members, Victor Hespanha from Brazil, onto the podcast. He takes us through the entire experience -before, during, and after the flight- in great detail. You get a good sense of what the experience is like, so don’t miss it! Please do note that English is not Victor’s first language and he is currently still learning it. He was incredibly kind to speak to us anyway and get out of his language comfort zone. So please keep it in mind when he is occasionally searching for the right word.
Victor's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hespanhavictor/
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Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:50 How did Victor end up going to space?
4:14 The Crypto Space Agency (CSA)
5:38 The CSA sweepstakes
6:35 Victor's initial reaction
7:57 Biggest fears
10:30 Family reaction
11:51 Marcos Pontes, the first Brazilian Astronaut
12:32 Preparing for space flight
15:24 Wife's reaction
16:19 Corn Ranch astronaut village
17:38 The bar at Corn Ranch
19:34 Formal training and bonding with the crew
23:00 The night before the launch
25:30 The final briefing and the day of the launch
28:00 Countdown and liftoff
29:40 Microgravity
33:50 Seeing Earth from Space
35:05 Memorable moments
37:10 Descending from Space
39:35 After-mission protocol
43:00 Special items
44:21 Aftermath
45:50 Coming back to Brazil
49:22 Post-Space life

Jan 14, 2023 • 49min
Space Business Podcast #89 - Morpheus Space
Daniel Bock and Istvan Lőrincz are the co-founders of Morpheus Space, an innovative electric propulsion company based in Germany and the U.S. I met them for the first time at IAC in 2019 when they won the pitch competition and since then they have done really well, including announcing a US$28 million Series A last September. Please enjoy listening to them talk about their technology and their entrepreneurial journey!
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Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:31 Elevator pitch
4:12 The origin of "Morpheus Space"
7:40 Perceived market gap
9:54 Is propulsion for collision avoidance all just a PR stunt?
11:36 Satellite collision data
13:25 Propulsion modeling
17:05 Business model
20:51 Talking to customers
21:48 Propulsion
28:29 Scaleability
30:36 Product constraints and challenges
33:25 Morpheus Space other line of products
36:21 How to prioritize
39:05 Partnership with Kayhan Space
41:11 Vision for the company
42:35 Other interesting things in the Space sector
45:45 Sci-Fi

Dec 30, 2022 • 18min
Space Business Podcast - Space in 2023 Preview
This is our annual preview of some of the things to watch out for in the space sector in 2023!
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Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
03:46 Launch
8:28 Human Space Flight
12:01 Science exploration missions
12:51 Satellite communications & EO
13:44 Finance
14:57 Exciting Events in 2023
15:32 Education and Outreach

Dec 22, 2022 • 52min
Space Business Podcast #88 dearMoon crew: Brendan Hall
I’m guessing many if not most of you are aware of the dearMoon project. Japanese entrepreneur Yusaku Maezawa, or MZ, is inviting 8 artists to join him on a circumlunar flight on Starship. One of the 8 selected crew is American documentary filmmaker Brendan Hall. He is our guest on this episode and we discuss everything from his motivation to apply, over the selection process, to his objectives for the mission, and even some of the things he may take along. dearMoon has everyting to be one of the most fascinating human spaceflight missions ever and this episode is our first look at it – don’t miss it.
dearMoon crew website: https://dearmoon.earth/
Brendan's website: http://www.brendanhall.com/
Follow us:
https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram - brand new! @raphael_space
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
3:02 Where Brendan was when he found out he was selected as a crew member
5:30 Mindset through the selection process
6:55 Weighing risks and responsibilities
13:39 Where to point the camera lens
16:21 Microgravity
18:10 Initial selection process
23:15 Further steps of the process
26:21 Crew synergies
29:57 Ideal outcome of the mission
32:18 National parks
36:06 The night sky and the Moon
38:42 Special places on Earth
41:00 Humanity's future on the Moon
42:27 Sci-Fi
44:08 What Brendan has been up to since finding out he was on the crew
46:40 Things to bring along on the mission

Dec 15, 2022 • 59min
Space Business Podcast #87 Casey Handmer
Casey Handmer writes a blog that many of you may already read called, well, Casey Handmer's blog. His posts regularly explore fascinating space topics such as e.g. explaining misconceptions about Starship or how to terraform Mars. We could not possibly do justice to the wealth of topics he’s written about in one podcast episode, but we are talking somewhat of a whirlwind tour through some of his best known posts on space. I think you’ll really enjoy it!
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Follow us:
https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram: @raphael_space
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:30 Casey's blog
3:57 Target audience
4:51 Topic selection
7:53 Lunar base post
8:59 Power delivery to the Moon
12:24 The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
13:09 Understanding Starship
17:04 Getting humanity to Mars
21:50 Why come back to Earth?
26:05 Starship use cases on Mars
31:47 Constraints on building a self-sufficient city on Mars
33:50 Terraforming Mars
40:34 Convincing people to go to Mars
44:02 Space babies
51:51 Sci-Fi

Dec 9, 2022 • 1h 1min
Space Business Podcast #86 Dan Katz, Orbital Sidekick, Hyperspectral Earth Observation
Dan Katz is the co-founder and CEO of Orbital Sidekick, a San Francisco-based company deploying a constellation of hyperspectral remote sensing satellites. Among other things, I talk to Dan about the capabilities and use cases of this exciting technology. Enjoy!
Follow us:
https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram: @raphael_space
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:14 Elevator Pitch
3:55 What is Hyperspectral Earth Observation?
10:16 Multispectral vs. Hyperspectral vs. ... Ultraspectral(?)
14:40 The upper bounds of spectral resolution
18:55 Operating at night time and under cloud cover
22:43 Data and onboard processing
27:15 Business Model
30:50 Coverage
31:52 Resolution
36:28 Pipeline leaks as a use case
40:14 Orbital Sidekick's satellites
45:43 Selling to non-space customers
48:37 Vision for the company
52:42 Origin story
56:05 Space trends
58:00 Sci-Fi

Nov 25, 2022 • 51min
Space Business Podcast #85 Egbert Jan van der Veen, OHB
Egbert Jan van der Veen is the head of strategy of well-known, publicly-listed German space company OHB. He’s also the head of their corporate venture capital arm, which has invested in a number of well-known space companies, including some that have been on this podcast. So he has a really good view of the space sector in general and also specifically about space startups. Enjoy!
Btw, happy Thanksgivings holiday to our many listeners in the U.S.!
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:22 Egbert's background
5:39 Space in 2010
9:09 The OHB experience
10:38 Engineering vs. Business
11:47 What is OHB?
15:15 Vertical integration and supply chain
17:30 Cubesats and Smallsats
20:27 Vertical integration and demand
25:27 The DNA of OHB
28:12 Opportunities in satellite components
32:10 Noteworthy trends on satellite integration
34:30 The Software side of things
36:09 Rockets
40:33 OHB name origin
41:45 OHB Ventures
44:17 What kind of opportunities OHB is looking for
47:09 Disruptive Space tech in 2022
49:20 Sci-Fi

Nov 4, 2022 • 54min
Space Business Podcast #84 Jaume Sanpera, Sateliot: IOT connectivity from space
Our guest this week is Jaume Sanpera, CEO & founder of Sateliot, a Barcelona-based startup providing IOT connectivity from space. IOT is an interesting market which various startups (and established companies) are tackling and we discuss current and future use cases, what technology Sateliot uses, how it is executing its go-to-market, and many other things. You will not want to miss this one. Enjoy!
Sateliot's job board: https://sateliot.space/en/careers/
The English version of Raphael's introductory book to the space economy will be out very soon. There continue to be the Portuguese ("Para cima") and German ("Hoch Hinaus") editions.
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:23 Elevator Pitch
3:47 The comparison with satellite-to-mobile
6:29 Details on system architecture
9:29 Space Debris
10:09 Ground based infrastructure
14:42 Data and use cases
22:32 Spectrum rights
26:33 First coverage areas
28:12 Customer acquisition
34:42 Pricing and what matters to customers
37:27 Ocean-based use cases
41:55 10-year vision
43:20 Challenges for the sector
46:22 Origin story
48:53 Advice on space business
50:17 Sateliot is hiring
51:40 What else is interesting in space
52:45 Sci-Fi

Oct 30, 2022 • 14min
#83 To Infinity, Book Preview
The English version of my introductory book to the space economy is finally about to come out. In this special episode, I read the introductory chapter for you.
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
4:43 Book preview - introductory chapter, read by Raphael