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Dec 9, 2022 • 1h 1min

Space Business Podcast #86 Dan Katz, Orbital Sidekick, Hyperspectral Earth Observation

Dan Katz is the co-founder and CEO of Orbital Sidekick, a San Francisco-based company deploying a constellation of hyperspectral remote sensing satellites. Among other things, I talk to Dan about the capabilities and use cases of this exciting technology. Enjoy! Follow us:  https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Instagram: @raphael_space Learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.   Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:14 Elevator Pitch 3:55 What is Hyperspectral Earth Observation? 10:16 Multispectral vs. Hyperspectral vs. ... Ultraspectral(?)  14:40 The upper bounds of spectral resolution 18:55 Operating at night time and under cloud cover 22:43 Data and onboard processing 27:15 Business Model 30:50 Coverage 31:52 Resolution 36:28 Pipeline leaks as a use case 40:14 Orbital Sidekick's satellites 45:43 Selling to non-space customers 48:37 Vision for the company 52:42 Origin story 56:05 Space trends 58:00 Sci-Fi
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Nov 25, 2022 • 51min

Space Business Podcast #85 Egbert Jan van der Veen, OHB

Egbert Jan van der Veen is the head of strategy of well-known, publicly-listed German space company OHB. He’s also the head of their corporate venture capital arm, which has invested in a number of well-known space companies, including some that have been on this podcast. So he has a really good view of the space sector in general and also specifically about space startups. Enjoy! Btw, happy Thanksgivings holiday to our many listeners in the U.S.! Learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:22 Egbert's background 5:39 Space in 2010 9:09 The OHB experience 10:38 Engineering vs. Business 11:47 What is OHB? 15:15 Vertical integration and supply chain 17:30 Cubesats and Smallsats 20:27 Vertical integration and demand 25:27 The DNA of OHB 28:12 Opportunities in satellite components 32:10 Noteworthy trends on satellite integration 34:30 The Software side of things 36:09 Rockets 40:33 OHB name origin 41:45 OHB Ventures 44:17 What kind of opportunities OHB is looking for 47:09 Disruptive Space tech in 2022 49:20 Sci-Fi
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Nov 4, 2022 • 54min

Space Business Podcast #84 Jaume Sanpera, Sateliot: IOT connectivity from space

Our guest this week is Jaume Sanpera, CEO & founder of Sateliot, a Barcelona-based startup providing IOT connectivity from space. IOT is an interesting market which various startups (and established companies) are tackling and we discuss current and future use cases, what technology Sateliot uses, how it is executing its go-to-market, and many other things. You will not want to miss this one. Enjoy! Sateliot's job board: https://sateliot.space/en/careers/ The English version of Raphael's introductory book to the space economy will be out very soon. There continue to be the Portuguese ("Para cima") and German ("Hoch Hinaus") editions. Learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:23 Elevator Pitch 3:47 The comparison with satellite-to-mobile  6:29 Details on system architecture 9:29 Space Debris 10:09 Ground based infrastructure 14:42 Data and use cases 22:32 Spectrum rights 26:33 First coverage areas 28:12 Customer acquisition 34:42 Pricing and what matters to customers 37:27 Ocean-based use cases 41:55 10-year vision 43:20 Challenges for the sector 46:22 Origin story 48:53 Advice on space business 50:17 Sateliot is hiring 51:40 What else is interesting in space 52:45 Sci-Fi
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Oct 30, 2022 • 14min

#83 To Infinity, Book Preview

The English version of my introductory book to the space economy is finally about to come out. In this special episode, I read the introductory chapter for you. Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 4:43 Book preview - introductory chapter, read by Raphael
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Oct 22, 2022 • 42min

#82 Ole Dokka, Spaceport Norway

My guest Ole Dokka probably knows the Norwegian space ecosystem like nobody else. He is the organizer of the Spaceport Norway conference, which will take place in Oslo next week. We talk about what is going on in space in Norway, including the Andøya spaceport, and of course also about the conference. Enjoy! Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:06 Ole's background 4:35 Transitioning from corporate life to the space sector 7:03 2016 vs 2022 8:04 Spaceport Norway 12:44 Who is going to Spaceport Norway? 14:30 Bringing in non-space corporations 16:10 What makes a good space conference? 21:55 The Norwegian space ecosystem 25:40 The Norwegian national space strategy 30:22 Norway's potential in the space sector 36:46 Ole's future projects 39:25 Sci-fi
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Sep 30, 2022 • 45min

#81 Dan Harkins, Tropical Weather Analytics

In this episode we talk about predicting extreme weather, timely (if not planned!) given hurricane Ian -- by the way, we hope you are all safe & sound! Dan Harkins, the COO of Tropical Weather Analytics will tell us about extreme weather and how their proposed satellite constellation may help us predict it.    TWA Website: https://weathersats.com/   Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:30 Elevator pitch 3:22 NASA's weather prediction tech 4:09 Prediction timeframe and accuracy 8:17 The Polar Vortex 9:03 Why has nobody done this before? 11:24 What Tropical Weather Analytics provides 15:03 Measuring wind 17:13 The ESA Arctic Weather Satellite and other sources of data 19:32 Reluctance to use this data 23:55 Key customer segments and go to market strategy 28:14 Aviation 30:53 Satellites 32:28 Timeline, fundraising and vision 35:27 Microwave sounders 38:23 Climate Change analysis 39:30 Origin story 40:50 What else to do in the space sector 43:11 Sci-Fi NB: Dan briefly mentions Spaced Ventures at some point. For full disclosure, Raphael is a member of Spaced's investment advisory committee. As a reminder, the podcast is purely for journalistic purposes and nothing constitutes investment advice or solicitation.
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Sep 23, 2022 • 44min

#80 Austin Link, Starfish Space: Space Tugs

My guest this week is Austin Link, a co-founder of Starfish Space. Starfish develops a space tug that can be used for satellite life extension and space debris removal. Austin and his co-founder Trevor both came out of Blue Origin and are now well on their way at Starfish, which raised a seed round last year. Please enjoy listening to their story.   https://www.starfishspace.com/   Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:16 Elevator pitch & origin story 6:06 Blue Origin 14:14 The satellite life extension market 19:42 Debris removal 24:00 Going to market 27:10 Rendezvous, Proximity Operations, and Docking (RPOD) 33:43 Starfish Space timeline 36:59 Working with Governments 38:46 Starfish Space is hiring 39:04 What else to do in the space sector 41:50 Sci-Fi  
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Sep 16, 2022 • 1h 5min

#79 Avi Loeb

This episode is with a guest who I wanted to have on for a while. Avi Loeb is a Professor of Science at Harvard and was the chair of its astronomy department from 2011 to 2020. He has written 8 books, including the best-seller “Extraterrestrial”, and hundreds of research papers. Among many other things, he is well-known for his views on the Oumuamua interstellar object, and he now heads the Galileo project, which is looking for further such objects. One of his upcoming projects is an expedition to try to retrieve fragments of another interstellar object from the ocean floor. If all this wasn’t interesting enough, we also talk about academia, the way science is pursued, and how we can ensure our kids maintain scientific curiosity. Enjoy!   Avi's book "Extraterrestrial": https://www.amazon.com/Extraterrestrial-First-Intelligent-Beyond-Earth/dp/0358278147   Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:  https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:14 Avi's farm background and the "Indistinguishable grains of sand" 4:27 What makes humanity unique? 8:49 How academics can suppress innovation 12:01 Fixing the academic "system" 20:07 The Fermi Paradox 25:34 Cosmic archaeology 35:32 Is Earth worth visiting? 39:50 The Galileo Project 40:52 UAPs 44:29 Current status of observation tech 49:13 Planned expedition to the Ocean floor 53:40 Projects that we should be engaging in 57:42 James Webb Space Telescope 01:00:36 Keeping your childlike curiosity
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Sep 9, 2022 • 48min

#78 Bleddyn Bowen, War in Space

This week we talk about military space. The military has been part of space exploration since the beginning, and it continues to be very important, including as a major customer of, and even occasional investor in, commercial space companies. So it makes sense that we spend some time talking about military space in this podcast. I suspect there will be several episodes on this topic, but my first guest, in this episode, is Professor Bleddyn Bowen from the University of Leicester. He has literally written the book on military space, aptly called “War in Space” and will soon publish another one. We talk about his books, the recent establishment of the U.S. Space Force, how one should think about space as a military domain, about relevant space capabilities, and a few other things. Enjoy! Prof. Bleddyn Bowen's books: https://www.amazon.com/Bleddyn-E-Bowen/e/B09X5QSTNW/   Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast   Timestamps 0:00 Intro 3:15 The space domain as a military domain 8:00 Which problem(s) could the Space Force solve? 12:08 Bleddyn's books 13:03 Why Space warfare? 14:52 Analogies to space a military domain 19:30 Key capabilities 24:12 Space defense companies 28:11 Potential vulnerable capabilities 38:24 Circling back to Bleddyn's books 44:19 Sci Fi
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Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 4min

#77 Jim Cantrell, Phantom Space

My guest this week is the CEO and founder of Phantom Space, Jim Cantrell. Having started at JPL, Jim is also a decades-long veteran of commercial space. He has been involved in around a dozen space startups, including SpaceX in its early days. There are probably few people who have been around the commercial space sector as much as he has, so we do not only talk about Phantom but about the space economy in general. Enjoy! https://www.phantomspace.com/   Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy: Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI. Stay tuned for the English translation, which should come out soon. The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics. Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:20 Jim's background 6:30 The last 20 years in space vs. Jim's expectations 9:20 SpaceX 14:14 A couple of key lessons from SpaceX 21:23 Phantom Space business model 24:15 Phantom Space and partner startups 26:55 Taking the "friction" out of space business 32:47 Standardization in space 35:32 How Russia is affecting the Space Economy 39:57 Vision for Phantom Space 40:40 Key lessons from Jim's experience with startups 45:18 Core DNA of Phantom Space 47:15 Phantom Space's vehicles 50:23 Phantom Space in 10 years 50:56 Rapid fire questions on the space economy 55:33 The space sector in 20 years 01:01:42 Fun questions

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