

Space Business Podcast
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Space is rapidly growing into an exciting ecosystem for business. In this podcast we hear from entrepreneurs, executives, investors and others about the many opportunities that exist. This podcast is produced by the Space Business Institute in partnership with the International Space University.
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May 26, 2023 • 20min
Space Business Podcast #100 The first 100 episodes - looking back & ahead
Episode 100 will give you a review & preview of the Space Business Podcast, incl. favorite sci-fi of our guests!
JUST OUT: Raphael's fully revised introductory book on the Space economy, "To Infinity" - https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
Follow us:
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
0:00 Intro
3:55 Stats
11:17 Quotes
14:03 Sci-Fi
16:18 The future of this podcast
18:35 Calls to action

Apr 28, 2023 • 50min
Space Business Podcast #99 Princeton Satellite Systems: Nuclear Fusion Propulsion
Nuclear fusion propulsion. Do I have your attention? Probably ... after all, we need to get to places like Mars, and beyond, faster than on the current chemical rockets. There are now actually some startups working on nuclear fusion propulsion and one of them, Princeton Satellite Systems, are our guests this week. Enjoy!
JUST OUT: Raphael's fully revised introductory book on the Space economy, "To Infinity" - https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:07 Elevator pitch
3:34 Future of space propulsion
5:13 Current state of fusion
10:16 Magnetic fusion
13:24 The FRC
16:47 Power budget
18:46 Terrestrial power generation use case
22:23 The Moon
25:03 What is left to do on the tech side
29:47 Timeline
31:01 Safety
33:15 In-space propulsion
36:44 NASA's past nuclear projects
37:54 Timing for prototype in space
42:43 Biggest obstacles
45:56 Beyond the current fusion engine proposal

Apr 21, 2023 • 40min
Space Business Podcast #98 Jesse Klempner: McKinsey & Company
My guest this week is Jesse Klempner, a partner in McKinsey’s Washington DC office. McKinsey is focusing more on space recently and has published a number of interesting articles (see below for some examples). We discuss why McKinsey is paying more attention to space now and how corporates can and do work with space, among other topics. Enjoy!
JUST OUT: Raphael's fully revised introductory book on the Space economy, "To Infinity" - https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Example McKinsey space articles:
Space: The missing element of your strategy
Space launch - are headed for a shortfall?
The potential of microgravity: How companies across sectors can venture into space
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:45 Why McKinsey is focusing more on space now
5:15 Getting space & non-space companies to cooperate
9:35 Taking the friction out of space
14:07 Companies integrating space as an enabling technology
18:29 Space mining
22:17 Space-based solar power
23:33 Lunar business models
25:14 Talking about space with the biggest companies in the world
29:15 Successful case studies of corporates implementing space
31:05 Successfully implementing new tech in an organization
31:47 How corporates can inform themselves
34:01 Most exciting space use case
36:15 Favorite space business model if you were an entrepreneur
37:31 Sci Fi

Apr 13, 2023 • 1h 2min
Space Business Podcast #97 - Space Biotech #1 - Ken Savin, Redwire Space
Space Biotech - this is the first episode in a new sub-series of episodes just on this topic. Ken Savin is the Chief Scientific Officer of Redwire, the American space holding company. Before that, he worked at the U.S. National Lab and for a long time in the pharma industry.
JUST OUT: Raphael's fully revised introductory book on the Space economy, "To Infinity" - https://a.co/d/6jIQ2LO
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:27 Ken's Background
3:52 Use cases
6:59 Human tissue in space
10:00 Pre-clinical pharma testing and regenerative medicine
11:38 Crystal production in space
16:30 Mass production in space
20:07 Awareness of space in the biotech industry
23:50 Bridging two different sectors
34:37 Starship
36:55 Producing at scale in microgravity
42:11 Use cases predictions
48:47 Disease models
54:34 Life sciences in Deep Space
58:05 Sci-Fi

Apr 6, 2023 • 45min
Space Business Podcast #96 Alvaro Alonso Ruiz: Leanspace
Software for satellites. We are overdue to talk about it – it’s important and it could be a big business opportunity, for reasons you’ll hear about in this episode. My guest is Alvaro Alonso Ruiz, co-founder of the French startup Leanspace who raised a EUR6MM seed round last year. Enjoy!
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Elevator Pitch
4:30 Satellite ground segment software
5:36 Origin story
10:27 Product cycle and use case
14:43 Third-party vs. in-house software
18:50 Fusing data
20:45 ChatGPT
21:25 Data security
24:13 Target market and customers
28:57 New approaches to aerospace manufacturing
31:26 Leanspace approach
33:58 Vision
37:05 Biggest risks
39:25 Strasbourg
41:20 Sci-Fi

Mar 31, 2023 • 44min
Space Business Podcast # 95 Uri Oron: Israel Space Agency
Space in Israel! My guest is Uri Oron, the Director General of the Israel Space Agency. We talk about various aspects of the Israeli space ecosystem, including what "infrastructure" is required to build it out successfully. Enjoy!
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Instagram - www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:38 Guest background
6:58 The Israeli deep tech legacy
8:59 ISA vs. other space agencies
14:44 Building the infrastructure for a space economy
18:19 Education and science
23:42 Supporting the startup ecosystem
27:15 Generating space awareness
33:19 Working alongside private initiatives
35:15 Space law
36:52 Interacting with the non-space side of the economy
39:23 A message to space enthusiasts

Mar 24, 2023 • 43min
Space Business Podcast #94 Matt Gialich, AstroForge: Asteroid Mining
Asteroid mining – do I really need to say anything else to get you excited and curious about listening to this episode? My guest is Matt Gialich, the co-founder and CEO of AstroForge, an LA-based startup. Over a decade on from when the last asteroid mining companies started, AstroForge successfully raised a sizable seed round last year. Asteroid mining is back - hear all about it in this episode, enjoy!
Follow us:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram - brand new! @raphael_space www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:17 Elevator pitch
4:44 Do we really have to mine in space?
7:02 Background and Origin Story
11:51 Previous asteroid mining companies
13:51 Hitching a ride to the Moon
15:14 Lowering mission costs
16:18 Spacecraft specs
17:38 Technology limitations
19:45 Mission objectives and timeline
21:18 Extraction tech
21:56 Approaching an asteroid
23:23 Power budget
25:40 Scaling up
26:49 Potential vs. current (on Earth) PGM cost
30:13 Business model
31:44 Regulations
33:24 Geopolitics
34:24 Funding
35:57 Vision
36:41 Biggest risks and challenges
37:40 Current focus
39:00 Mining other things besides PGM
40:00 Sci-Fi

Mar 2, 2023 • 50min
Space Business Podcast #93 - Nima Shahinian
Nima Shahinian is a Norwegian industrial designer planning on going to space, and he has already started some of the training, which he will tell us about. He has now even put together a whole project and team in Norway that is working on taking a group of people to space, including several candidates with disabilities. Hear all of about it in this episode – and, since he is a designer, we also talk about space design! Enjoy!
Nima's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/astro_nims/
Follow us:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphaelroettgen/
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram - brand new! @raphael_space www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:43 How did Nima become an astronaut candidate?
4:51 Nima's Design work
6:20 Space design
8:16 Best space suits
10:00 Family's take
11:20 Forming a project team
12:54 Timeline and origin
18:01 First mission
20:50 Financing the Project
24:33 Iranian women in space
26:26 The Next Step project
30:15 Potential candidates
33:13 Plans for the mission
38:30 Nima's space training to date
41:48 Helping Project Next Step
44:03 Vision for the project
45:57 Sci-Fi

Feb 25, 2023 • 45min
Space Business Podcast #92 Wave Motion Launch Corporation
How about accessing space not with rockets, but with basically a big gun that shoots stuff into space? You may be surprised to hear that that is actually not a new idea. Our guests this week, the founders of a startup called Wave Motion are working on an updated version of it. Unsurprisingly, there is strong dual use element, too. We’ll talk about all that and more in the episode. Enjoy!
Follow us:
Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram - brand new! @raphael_space www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:24 Elevator Pitch
3:31 Rocket equation tyranny
5:35 Wave Motion launch tech
7:45 Historical space gun projects
12:21 "G-hardened"pPayloads
13:06 Architecture
14:46 Payload Capacity
16:35 Ground Infrastructure
18:45 Launch Cadence
21:12 Product Sequencing
27:10 Managing time and projects as a small team
29:36 Getting a Naval Research Contract
33:42 Geopolitics
35:00 Orbital launch costs
35:35 Roadmap
40:19 Origin of name
41:37 Other opportunities in space
42:45 Sci-Fi

Jan 27, 2023 • 46min
Space Business Podcast #91 - dearMoon crew: Karim Iliya
This is our second conversation with a crew member of the dearMoon project. Just as a reminder, dearMoon will be a circumlunar Starship mission, to which Japanese entrepreneur Yusaku "MZ" Maezawa has invited 8 artists to join him. One of those lucky 8 is the photographer, filmmaker and whale swimming guide Karim Iliya. We talk about his expectations and objectives for the mission. Enjoy!
https://karimiliya.com/
Follow us:
https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Instagram - brand new! @raphael_space www.instagram.com/raphael_space/
Learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
There is now a certificate for those wanting to enter the space sector: https://www.spacecertificate.com
Do you want to specifically learn about investing in Space? Join the pre-release of Raphael's new live-taught course on Maven:
https://maven.com/space-business-institute/investing-course
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:58 Hawaii, Iceland and the Moon
4:41 The most fascinating thing about the Moon
06:04 How Karim got interested in Space
8:22 The future of space exploration
11:52 Initial application for dearMoon
14:23 Taking photos in microgravity
18:42 Summary of Karim's work
22:26 Thoughts before going to Space
25:12 What would aliens photograph on Earth?
27:58 Absence of life in Space
30:00 The moment Karim found out he was selected
36:00 Research and preparations for the mission
37:54 Remaining key questions
40:37 Special items to bring along on the mission