
Space Business Podcast
Space is rapidly growing into an exciting ecosystem for business. In this podcast we hear from entrepreneurs, executives, investors and others about the many opportunities that exist. This podcast is produced by the Space Business Institute in partnership with the International Space University.
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Aug 26, 2022 • 1h 13min
#76 Ricardo Conde, Portugal Space
My guest this week is the President of Portugal Space, the Portuguese Space Agency, Ricardo Conde. Portugal Space was only recently formed, in 2019. Ricardo and I talk about that experience of founding a new national space agency and dive into some of their marquis projects, including in the remote sensing value chain and the Santa Maria Spaceport in the Azores Islands. We also talk about the space economy in general and how a country like Portugal can add specific value. A quick heads up: this episode was live recorded in Ricardo’s offices and there is some background noise from the AC, but it gets better over time. Enjoy!
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
3:51 The origins of Portugal Space
17:29 Global navigation data friction and space debris
31:44 Portugal Space timeline
37:52 Open sourcing capability for space startups and space education
48:33 Building an ecosystem of space companies in Portugal
52:54 Space law and regulations in Portugal
57:45 International space companies
59:37 The potential successful outcome
01:02:25 PT Space is hiring!
01:05:00 Closing message

Aug 11, 2022 • 55min
#75 Bessie Schwarz, Cloud to Street: Flood Intelligence
My guest this week is Bessie Schwarz from Cloud to Street, a company that uses satellite imagery, and other data, to come up with better flood models for customers like governments and insurance companies. Hence, it is an example of the use of space technology for something useful right here on Earth, which is one of our favorite topics!
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:28 Elevator pitch
5:18 Origin story
8:07 The product
16:40 Clients
21:31 Value-add
28:24 The flood model
30:25 Using space data for Earth
38:22 Market size
41:17 Vision
44:02 Core competencies
48:10 Funding the business
50:35 Closing questions incl. sci-fi & cli-fi

Jul 30, 2022 • 17min
#74 2022 in Space: mid-year review
Raphael reviews what has happened so far in the space sector in 2022 and what some of the exciting things are that may happen during the rest of the year.
JWST images:
https://www.nasa.gov/webbfirstimages/
Space Perspective capsule:
https://www.space.com/space-perspective-capsule-balloon-tourist-flights
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space

Jul 23, 2022 • 55min
#73 Sita Sonty, BCG
This week I’m talking to Sita Sonty, who is Boston Consulting Group’s global lead for commercial space. She also previously worked at Raytheon, Sierra Nevada and SpaceX, besides being a U.S. diplomat for many years. She is one of the most interesting people I know and I am also happy to have her as an advisor at my venture firm E2MC. Enjoy our conversation!
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:53 Sita's Background
8:07 From diplomacy to the private space sector
10:16 Contrasts between space companies
17:46 Sita's role at Spacex
23:29 Life after Spacex
25:29 Private sector clients & space
32:15 Favorite use cases for space
35:14 Rapid fire questions on the space economy
45:35 Financing space
48:42 Being a mom: Kids and Space
51:39 Parting thoughts

Jul 7, 2022 • 1h 3min
#72 Dr. Pippa Malmgren: the Space Space
We are talking about the future of the space economy as well as geopolitics and exo-politics in this episode (exo-politiics would be politics off-Earth!). I could not have a better guest for these topics: Dr. Pippa Malmgren is a renowned economist who has, among many other roles, advised President George W Bush. She recently published a couple of articles about space on her Substack. Our conversation spans everything – from Ukraine over space-based solar power all the way to aliens. You will not want to miss it. Enjoy!
Link to Dr. Pippa Malmgren's Substack: https://drpippa.substack.com/
Opportunities to learn more about space & the space economy:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:46 Pippa's background
3:49 The Space Space
6:55 War In Space
8:48 Resilience
12:43 Cities on the Moon
16:04 Space law and regulations
20:09 Game Theory in Space politics
24:50 Nation States vs Private Companies
32:00 Testing the limits
42:20 The impact of space technology on Earth
45:30 Is the Space Economy ready to develop?
53:31 Global cooperation use cases and life in space
58:21 Sci Fi

Jun 28, 2022 • 60min
#71 Payam Banazadeh, Capella Space
My guest this week is the founder & CEO of another prominent new space company – Payam Banazadeh from Capella Space. Capella is a remote sensing company that is using synthetic aperture radar (SAR) technology. Don’t worry – we will explain what SAR is during the episode. The important summary: it allows you to see at night and through cloud cover. You can imagine that has interesting and important use cases. Payam will take us through those and many other things about Capella. Enjoy!
Capella's job board: https://www.capellaspace.com/about-us/careers/
Opportunities to learn more about space business:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:50 Elevator pitch
4:07 Origin story
8:00 MH370
10:05 Geographic coverage
14:58 General use cases
19:10 Pricing
21:11 Government use cases
25:02 Commercial use cases
29:40 Cool things Capella detected
32:05 Hostile behavior
35:44 Satellite manufacturing & design
39:22 Sales process
46:27 Consolidation
48:52 Vision
50:49 Financing
55:27 Wrap-up: hiring, other things to do in the space sector, sci-fi

May 30, 2022 • 60min
#70 Alex Fielding, Privateer
It’s another fun episode this week as I sit down with Alex Fielding, co-founder and CEO of Privateer. You may have heard about Privateer when it first emerged last year, with few details about it, but intriguingly having Apple co-founder Steve "Woz" Wozniak as its President and co-founder. Earlier this year, Privateer came further out of stealth and we learned that, among other things, they are doing space situational awareness … and got a sponsorship from Swiss watchmaker Omega! But there is so much more to the story. Listen to the episode to find out. Full disclosure: my venture fund E2MC is an investor in Privateer.
Opportunities to learn more about space business:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
Raphael is designing a new, live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:32 Elevator Pitch
4:22 Alex's career path
9:35 A comparison between space and oceans
10:56 The domain awareness aspect and insurance in LEO
15:44 The tragedy of the commons in space
19:11 Space debris and mapping problems
25:04 Infrastructure vs Applications
29:46 How Privateer looks in practice
34:30 The "rocket science" developer issue
37:14 The initial Privateer apps
40:24 Fun apps
43:41 What is missing?
45:26 Timeframe
46:31 The name "Privateer"
47:49 Being based in Hawaii
53:12 Other interests in space
58:26 Sci-Fi

May 25, 2022 • 40min
#68 Shey Sabripour, CesiumAstro
My guest is Shey Sabripour, the founder and CEO of CesiumAstro, a prominent late stage startup in the satellite communications area. Specifically, they design and build phased array communications systems, actually not only for satellites but also for aerial platforms like drones. You may now wonder what phased array is, but don’t worry, Shey explains it in the episode. In any event, it’s important tech, as also evidenced by the fact that CesiumAstro managed to raise a US$60 million Series B round a couple of months ago.
Opportunities to learn more about space business:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
I am also designing a new live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
CesiumAstro job board: https://www.cesiumastro.com/careers
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:30 Elevator pitch
3:05 Phased array payloads
5:37 LEO constellations
8:46 CesiumAstro's origins
14:16 Becoming a satellite integrator
16:06 Customers
19:23 Supply chain issues and space heritage
23:29 Future products
24:49 In-space communications
29:00 Future of satellite communications
30:54 Medium/long term vision for CesiumAstro
32:27 Funding and hiring
36:30 What else is interesting in space
38:03 Sci-Fi

Apr 27, 2022 • 54min
#67 Bradford Space
Our guests this week are Ian Fichtenbaum and Chris Carpenter from Bradford Space. Bradford has been around for a while and their systems, such as propulsion and attitude control, have gathered quite a bit of space heritage already. Now they have an exciting new project. Hear about it in this episode!
Opportunities to learn more about space business:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
I am also designing a new live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy recently came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:25 Elevator pitch and company origins
6:54 Guests' backgrounds
12:50 The most capable space company
18:27 Mass manufacturing
21:18 Vertical integration and software side
25:43 Overall Strategy and long term value
32:14 Space transportation and use cases
38:11 Status of the project
44:48 Manufacturing vs operating
48:07 Vision for the company
50:54 What else is exciting in space?
52:34 Sci-Fi

Apr 14, 2022 • 1h 8min
#66 Chris Hadfield
I have an Easter / Passover / Ramadan treat for you: my guest this week is none other than Chris Hadfield, the Canadian astronaut. Among his many accomplishments are being the first Canadian to conduct EVA (colloquially a ‘spacewalk’) and also the first Canadian to serve as Commander of the Int’l Space Station. Besides that, he is also a musician and a writer, who recently published a thrilling novel called ‘The Apollo Murders’. We talk about all of this during this episode – you will not want to miss it. Enjoy & happy holidays!
Opportunities to learn more about space business:
Check out the new edX/EPFL Space Economy MOOC: https://www.edx.org/course/new-space-economy
I am also designing a new live-taught course. Join the mailing list to get updates and early access: https://jfx8zhjodpz.typeform.com/to/t0VSuhVD
Raphael's introductory book on the space economy just came out in its Portuguese translation: https://www.amazon.com/Para-Cima-Economia-Espacial-Portuguese-ebook/dp/B09X5WV3WC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ROKTHNSCZCRI
The Space Business Podcast is sponsored by NanoAvionics.
Support us at https://www.patreon.com/spacebusinesspodcast
Follow the podcast on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/podcast_space
Links to things mentioned in the episode
Creative Destruction Lab Space Stream: https://creativedestructionlab.com/streams/space/
Chris Hadfield's MasterClass online course:
https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chris-hadfield-teaches-space-exploration
The Apollo Murders (novel)
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Murders-Colonel-Chris-Hadfield-ebook/dp/B08W514GW2/
Timestamps
2:40 The post-astronaut life
6:02 We go to space for the benefit of what we're doing on earth
7:18 Cherished memories from space
8:48 The Overview Effect
12:02 Space tourism
17:57 Playing music in space and human behavior
20:46 Sports and reproduction in space
24:40 Mars
30:56 Life in space
38:30 Creative Destruction Lab
44:04 What is most exciting in space development?
49:30 Getting the space message out
55:03 The Apollo Murders
01:04:30 Sci-Fi