

The Drone Ultimatum
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The preeminent podcast for all things drones, defense tech, defense policy, and modern warfare. Featured guests include industry leaders, policy experts, military warfighters, business titans, and many more. Hosted by Steve Simoni, co-founder and CEO of Allen Control Systems.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 17min
Modular Jamming, AI Detection, and the Rise of DroneShield | Matt McCrann
Matt McCrann, a U.S. Navy veteran and CEO of DroneShield, delves into the fast-paced evolution of drone defense technology. He discusses the innovative features of the DroneGun MkIV and how modular jamming keeps up with changing threats, particularly in the context of modern warfare and lessons learned from Ukraine. McCrann shares insights into working with the Department of Defense and emphasizes the vital role of startups in the defense sector. The conversation also touches on the future of unmanned systems and the importance of AI in drone detection.

Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 21min
From Industrial Robots to Defense Infrastructure | Troy Demmer, Gecko Robotics
Troy Demmer is the co-founder and Chief Product Officer of Gecko Robotics, the industrial tech company behind wall-climbing inspection robots and the full-stack software platform reshaping how we manage critical infrastructure. In this episode, Troy breaks down Gecko’s origin story, their second act in defense, and why hardware is just the wedge.We talk about the staggering cost of industrial maintenance, the Navy’s sustainment crisis, the failure of legacy digital twin initiatives, and how Gecko’s modular robots collect structured data across steel, concrete, and rotating equipment. Troy also shares his startup lessons from building in Pittsburgh, fundraising from Sam Altman and Founders Fund, and his view on what defense tech gets wrong. One of the sharpest, most underrated founders in the game.Episode #44.---Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/#podcast #defensetech #startups #militaryinnovation #robotics #dualuse #geckorobotics #navy #infra #criticalinfrastructure #manufacturing #dod #sustainment #militaryreadiness #foundersfund #hardwarestartups #yc #ai #industrialtech #austintx #venturecapital

Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 30min
The Reality of Selling to the Pentagon | Mike Canty
Mike Canty, co-founder and CEO of Armaments Research Company, joins the show to discuss the future of defense tech and the realities of building hardware startups for the Pentagon. A former Army major, Mike now leads ARC in developing AI-enabled weapon sensors that turn rifles into data-driven decision systems. We get into his founder journey from bootstrapping hardware to selling a previous startup to DoorDash, the challenges of raising money in defense before it was “cool,” and the realities of selling to the U.S. military. From Ukraine’s frontlines to U.S. Army test brigades, this conversation digs into drones, jamming, venture funding, and how defense startups survive in a world still dominated by the primes. If you want to understand the real mechanics behind defense innovation, this is a must-listen.Episode #43.---Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/#podcast #defensetech #militaryinnovation #startups #dod #army #airforce #navy #defenseindustry #counteruas #drones #ai #weaponsystems #iot #tacticaltech #militarytechnology #nationalsecurity #venturecapital #govcon #warfighter #miltech

Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 17min
The Future of Drone Swarms and Counter-UAS | Kyle Hardy & Ashkan Bayatpour
Kyle Hardy, CEO of Hardy Dynamics and a former Navy Intel officer, teams up with Ashkan Bayatpour, a U.S. Navy Reserve Officer and tech solutions expert, to dive into the future of drone warfare. They explore the challenges of counter-drone operations and why current defenses fall short. The duo discusses the integration of AI with drone swarms, the evolving national security landscape, and their personal journeys from military service to the tech startup world. Humor, insights, and critical reflections on modern warfare make this conversation a must-listen!

Aug 15, 2025 • 1h 23min
Inside Ukraine's Drone War and the Defense Tech Bubble | Patrick Blumenthal
Defense tech insider Patrick Blumenthal breaks down the latest developments in Ukraine's drone warfare evolution and the Vector vs. RedCat lawsuit shaking up the industry. From Russia's new evasion modules and radar warning receivers on Shaheds to the reality of SMR hype in defense tech, Patrick delivers unfiltered analysis on what's actually working on the battlefield. We dive deep into the cat-and-mouse game of drone interceptors, the business models driving defense innovation, and why peace talks are likely to fail as fighting season continues.Pat on X: https://x.com/patrickjblum?lang=enEpisode #41.---Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/#podcast #defensetech #ukraine #drones #vector #redcat #lawsuit #shaheds #dronewarfare #interceptors #smr #nuclear #palantir #defenseinnovation #military #dod #govcon #startups #defenseinvesting #battlefieldtech #autonomy

Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 22min
Russia’s Next Move: Middle East, Arms, and Influence | Matt Tavares & Anna Borshchevskaya
Russia’s ambitions extend far beyond Ukraine.In this episode, we’re joined by two experts with deep regional and strategic insight: former Army intelligence officer Matt Tavares, and Anna Borshchevskaya, Senior Fellow at The Washington Institute and author of Putin’s War in Syria.We unpack how Russia uses frozen conflicts as long-term leverage, why much of the Global South rejects the Western narrative on Ukraine, and what’s next for Russian arms exports. The conversation also explores Putin’s worldview, the limits of Western sanctions, and the future of Syria post-Assad.If you care about how great powers actually operate outside of public view, this episode is for you.⸻Article: https://jstribune.com/borshchevskaya-tavares-russias-defense-ties-in-the-middle-east/Matt Tavares: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-tavares/Anna Borshchevskaya: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaborshchevskaya/---Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/

Jul 25, 2025 • 1h 28min
Reinventing Radar: Building the Future of ISR from Space | Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson is the co-founder and CEO of Array Labs, a startup building 3D imaging radar satellites to compete with billion-dollar airborne ISR platforms at a fraction of the cost. In this episode, Andrew breaks down why government customers don’t just want imagery—they want hardware—and how selling into the defense ecosystem really works.We dig into the startup journey, the realities of firm fixed-price contracts vs. cost-plus, and what it takes to build scalable space systems that the Pentagon actually wants to buy. Andrew also shares candid lessons from founding the company, fundraising, and navigating the misunderstood world of defense innovation.Whether you’re deep in dual-use or just SAR-curious, this one’s packed with hard-won insights.Andrew Peterson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-peterson-array-labs/Array Labs: https://www.arraylabs.io/Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/

Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 22min
Fundraising, Focus, and Failure: Hard Truths About Defense Startups | Kirsten Bartok Touw
Kirsten Bartok Touw is the co-founder and Managing Partner of New Vista Capital, a venture firm focused exclusively on aerospace, space, and defense. In this episode, Kirsten joins to talk about investing in dual-use tech, startup momentum, and how capital is becoming a competitive moat in defense. We discuss what founders get wrong about working with the DOD, the talent shift from Silicon Valley to DC and Austin, and why so few hardware companies reach TRL 9.From the future of hypersonics to the realities of raising defense venture capital, this is a sharp, wide-ranging conversation about building and backing serious defense tech.Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/

Jul 11, 2025 • 1h 10min
Building Unmanned Warships for the Navy | Austin Gray, Blue Water Autonomy
Austin Gray, co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer of Blue Water Autonomy, joins the podcast to break down the future of autonomous naval warfare.From unmanned ships that carry large payloads to the technical and political challenges of defense procurement, Austin offers an insider’s view of building in one of the most complex arenas in defense tech.He shares stories from his Navy intelligence days, dives into the design decisions behind Blue Water’s vessels, and explains how autonomy changes the economics of shipbuilding and warfighting. We talk supply chains, counter-drone systems, nuclear skepticism, and the startup dynamics of this emerging sector. If you’re building in defense or just want to understand where naval innovation is headed, this is a must-listen.Links to the show:https://www.youtube.com/@thedroneultimatumhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3F1sc8yzQIF9WcdHQ3w7kf?si=3af8082184104062https://thedroneultimatum.substack.com/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-drone-ultimatum/id1770994541https://www.instagram.com/thedroneultimatum/https://x.com/droneultimatumhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-drone-ultimatum?trk=public_post_feed-actor-nameFollow Steve:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevensimoni/https://x.com/StevenSimonihttps://www.allencontrolsystems.com/#podcast #defensetech #navy #autonomousships #startups #militaryinnovation #dronedefense #counteruas #aiwarfare #usnavy #governmentcontracting #bluewaternavy #defensestartup #venturecapital #militarytech #indoctrination #warfighting #usdod #robotics #maritimeautonomy #militarystrategy

Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 8min
Autonomous Boats and the Future of Naval Warfare | Paul Lwin, HavocAI
Paul Lwin is the co-founder and CEO of HavocAI, a defense startup building collaborative autonomous surface vessels. In this episode, Paul breaks down the company’s tech stack, their strategic approach to naval warfare, and how Havoc’s 14-foot robotic boats might reshape the future of the Pacific fight.We dive into dual-use applications, investor narratives, defense procurement challenges, and the software-first strategy behind Havoc’s growth from five people to seventy in under a year. Paul also reflects on Navy life, co-founder dynamics, and what it takes to scale real hardware in a high-stakes industry. A must-listen for anyone in defense tech or autonomy.Links to the show:YouTubeSpotifySubstackApple PodcastsInstagramTwitter/XLinkedInFollow Steve:LinkedInTwitter/XAllen Control Systems


