
Unchurned - The No. 1 podcast for Customer Success
The Unchurned podcast brings you the stories that will help you forge incredible customer relationships, prevent churn, & build institutional knowledge. The CS & BS series is a part of the Unchurned podcast wherein, with each episode, our hosts - Kristi Faltorusso, Jon Johnson, Josh Schachter, and special guests uncover the secrets of top leaders and innovators of companies so that you can advance your career and the performance of your customer success team.
Unchurned, and the CS&BS series, are presented by UpdateAI - https://update.ai/
Latest episodes

Jun 18, 2025 • 24min
Kristi's AI Project, Josh's Wedding & Until Next Time...
#updateai #customersuccess #saas #business Welcome back to Unchurned! In this special episode, hosts Josh Schachter and Kristi Faltorusso gather for one last on-air session before a well-deserved summer break—and just before Josh’s London wedding celebration! They also dive into Kristi's AI learning journey—breaking down how she’s gone all-in on micro-learning, prompt engineering, and building real tools with zero engineering background. Listen as she and Josh discuss the importance of actually using AI, not just reading about it, the potential risks of ignoring these skills, and why investing just ten minutes a day could change your game in the evolving tech landscape.Timestamps0:00 - Preview 0:45 - Josh is married/is getting married4:30 - Upcoming summer break for the podcast5:05 - Leadership Loss and Reflections at Planhat8:07 - Kristi is learning & experimenting with AI13:55 - Scaling Personal Expertise with AI18:40 - Encouragement to Engage with AI___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for UpdateAI👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at https://blog.update.ai/______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

Jun 11, 2025 • 25min
The Reality of Promotions and Navigating Career Growth ft. Rachel Tsui (Komodo Health)
#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessRachel Tsui, the ex-Head of CS at Komodo Health, joins hosts Jon Johnson and Josh Schachter to dive deep into the intricacies of customer success. Rachel highlights the innovative use of healthcare data to identify patient trends and enhance service delivery. The conversation explores how Komodo's customer success team navigates post-sales processes, strategically collaborates with account management, and the essential role of data-driven decisions. Jon and Rachel also delve into career growth challenges, touching on the balancing act of flat organization structures, professional development, and the evolving expectations of newer workforce generations. Join us for a captivating journey through customer success strategies, organizational dynamics, and how they shape the future of innovation at Komodo Health.Timestamps0:00 - Preview, & Intros7:30 - CS at Komodo Health 10:28 - KPIs for customer success at Komodo12:00 - Plans and Priorities 13:22 - Focusing on separating support from CS activities16:03 - Managing expectations around promotions20:06 - Navigating career growth23:50 - Cross-functional collaboration and tools for knowledge sharing___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://youtu.be/JprAz-o-dWkApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guestRachel Tsui: https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheltsui👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for UpdateAI 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at https://blog.update.ai/________________Keywords: How to keep your customers happy, customer success manager, healthcare map, health data, AI, big data, Komodo Health, customer success, net dollar retention, CSM, customer engagement, healthcare platform, data platform, CS team, account management, product utilization, strategic initiatives, executive relationships, customer influence, renewal rate, Gainsight, CRM, AMs (Account Managers), team structure.______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 29min
How to Turn Insights into Company Strategy ft. Cait Keohane
Cait Keohane, the Chief Customer Officer at Airtable and a former early employee at Zendesk, shares her journey of scaling customer success. She discusses the importance of building robust post-sale strategies and emphasizes listening directly to customers. Cait explores innovative approaches like the 'risk rally' program for enhancing retention and the role of feedback in shaping product development. Additionally, she addresses the balance between personalization and operational efficiency, advocating for effective resource management and the use of AI in customer support.

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May 26, 2025 • 36min
Gainsight’s Big Leaps, AI Agents, and Pulse 2025 ft. Nick Mehta
In this lively discussion, Nick Mehta, the energetic CEO of Gainsight, shares insights about the upcoming Pulse 2025 conference in Las Vegas, revealing its exciting evolution from humble beginnings. He discusses recent innovations, including new AI tools like Staircase and ModerateKit, designed to enhance customer success roles. Nick also reflects on significant leadership changes within Gainsight and how AI integration is transforming both their offerings and internal operations, all while keeping the conversation entertaining and motivating for customer success professionals.

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May 21, 2025 • 34min
Should We Ease the Workload of Superhero CSM? Ft. Sarah Parker (Betterup)
Sarah Parker, SVP of Global Customer Success at BetterUp and former VP at UiPath, discusses the pressing need to transition from high-touch to low-touch customer connections. She highlights how coaching empowers leaders and the challenges of maintaining customer engagement in a post-pandemic world. Parker elaborates on balancing free and paid services, advocating for a shift from reactive support to enabling customer ownership. She emphasizes the evolving role of Customer Success Managers as they adapt to demanding workloads while articulating their value within organizations.

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May 14, 2025 • 39min
How GitHub Drives Measurable Customer Outcomes (And Tracks What Matters) ft. Michael Goetz (GitHub)
Michael Goetz, VP of Customer Success Strategy at GitHub, shares his insights from his extensive experience in the tech industry. He breaks down GitHub's strategic shift towards customer success, emphasizing the importance of defining measurable business outcomes. The discussion highlights how GitHub navigates diverse user needs and maintains engagement with rapid product innovations. Goetz also explores the dynamics between end-users and organizational stakeholders, stressing the necessity of understanding user personas to enhance customer interactions.

May 7, 2025 • 27min
Customer-Centric Approach for a Unified Onboarding Experience Ft. Sri Ganesan (Rocketlane)
In this podcast episode, Josh Schachter interviews Srikrishnan Ganesan, founder, and CEO of Rocketlane, a customer onboarding platform. Sri discusses the origins of Rocketlane, including the community they built before launching the product, and the birth of Rocketlane. They also talk about the importance of collaboration and marketing in the SaaS industry. Sri emphasizes the importance of consistency in the customer journey, particularly during the onboarding phase, and how it can impact customer success and lead to better outcomes. They also discuss Rocketlane's approach to marketing and community building.___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Srikrishnan Ganesan : https://www.linkedin.com/in/srikrishnang/👉 Connect with hostJosh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for UpdateAI 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at https://blog.update.ai/______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great relationships with their customers. We work with early & growth stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 31min
How AngelList is Leveling Up CS into a True Commercial and Revenue Driver ft. Carly Van Kirk
#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJosh Schachter, Co-Founder & CEO of UpdateAI, sits down with Carly Van Kirk, Head of CS at AngelList. Carly pulls back the curtain on AngelList’s unique approach to supporting emerging and established GPs and shares her journey into this pivotal leadership role amidst rapid company growth and industry transformation. Join us as Carly shares how AngelList is reshaping customer segments, dealing with the challenges of scaling an increasingly complex platform, and balancing high-touch professional services with tech-driven solutions.Timestamps0:00 - Preview1:45 - Overview of AngelList2:35 - COVID-Era Growth & Rolling Fund at AngelList4:12 - Carly's Role, Team Structure & Customer Segmentation at AngelList9:30 - Hunting for a New Job13:20 - Carly’s Priorities in Her First 180 Days at AngelList14:45 - Key Challenges and Initiatives Identified14:45 - Automation, Tooling, and Workflow Inefficiencies22:43 - Understanding and Improving Time to Value24:24 - AI’s Current and Future Role in AngelList and CS27:36 - Customer Success as a Commercial Center___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Carly Van Kirk : https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlyvankirk/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for UpdateAI - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at https://blog.update.ai/______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 36min
LIfe, Loss & Lessons: Unchurned BTS
In this deeply personal discussion, the hosts share heartfelt stories about navigating life's challenges, including job transitions and profound losses. They reflect on the healing power of love and the importance of community during tough times. With a mix of humor and vulnerability, they touch on personal growth, the complexities of grief, and the balance between work and life. Each story serves as a reminder that personal journeys shape professional paths, highlighting the intertwined nature of success and experiences.

Apr 16, 2025 • 38min
Reinventing the Future of Work With AI-Powered Workflows
#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJon, Kristi, and Josh sit down with Mike Haylon, GM of AI at Asana, for a deep dive into AI’s transformative role in business. The episode kicks off with a nostalgic trip down memory lane, revisiting Josh and Mike’s childhood adventures, before pivoting to Asana’s groundbreaking work with AI Studio.Mike unveils how Asana’s no-code workflow builder is revolutionizing task management and reshaping customer interactions. The conversation explores AI integration challenges, redefined success metrics, and Asana’s go-to-market strategy—all delivered with humor and sharp insights.Timestamps0:00 – Preview, Memories & Introduction6:20 – Mike’s Role at Asana & AI Studio15:10 – Use Cases of AI Studio18:06 – AI’s Role in Workflows & Human Elevation22:16 – Challenges & Future of AI Adoption28:05 – How AI Simplifies Execution34:30 – Predictions on the Evolution of AI Tools___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Mike Haylon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhaylon/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for UpdateAI 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at https://blog.update.ai/________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.