The Prehab Podcast

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Aug 5, 2025 • 37min

How Muscle Lab Is Rewriting Recovery & Changing Healthcare with Vatche

Muscle Lab’s founder joins us to reveal how recovery, NAD therapy, and proactive care are reshaping the future of performance and healthcare. In this episode, we sit down with Vatche Ourishian, co-founder of Muscle Lab, to talk about building a modern recovery business from the ground up. From NAD IV drips to in-house certifications, we dive deep into what today’s clients actually want—and why so many are turning away from traditional models of physical therapy.   Whether you're a clinician, entrepreneur, or wellness enthusiast, this conversation is packed with real-world insights on scaling a business, staying ahead of the curve, and delivering lasting value in the health & performance space.   🔑 In this episode, we cover: What NAD therapy really does for energy, aging, and cognition Why Muscle Lab pivoted from training to recovery How they built systems to scale across multiple locations The biggest mistakes (and lessons) in launching during COVID Why the healthcare system is broken—and what’s replacing it   For more information about Vatche and Muscle Lab: https://musclelab.la    Looking for structured personalized programming to get out of pain and prevent injuries? Check out the Prehab App: https://theprehabguys.com/membership    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrehabPodcast  Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-prehab-podcast/id1456407031 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ku81i10QkvyttTdlkSaKp   Chapters: 00:00 Introductions - Meet the Founders 1:00 NAD+ Therapy Benefits & What to Expect from Treatment 02:35 How Muscle Lab Recovery Center Got Started 03:25 From Personal Training to Recovery Business: Finding Your Niche 05:10 Starting a Business During COVID-19 & Overcoming Challenges 06:10 Scaling Your Recovery Business: Systems, Team Building & Delegation 7:30 Common Business Scaling Challenges & How to Overcome Them 10:20 Hiring Strategies: Using Internships as Talent Recruitment Pipelines 11:28 Weekly NAD+ Therapy Routine: Why I Do It Every Week 12:21 NAD+ Nasal Spray Benefits: How to Extend Treatment Results 13:15 Business Growth Strategies: Focus, Mentorship & Key Metrics 15:20 Customer Retention vs New Offers: Getting Clients to Come Back 18:10 From Free Services to Celebrity Clients: Early Business Hustle 20:47 Client Work vs Building a Bigger Mission: Finding Purpose 22:20 The $420 Billion Musculoskeletal Problem & Recovery Solutions 25:00 Career Change to Healthcare: Finding Your Path in Wellness 27:54 Proactive Wellness & Longevity Trends: The Future of Healthcare 31:08 Entrepreneurship Advice: Expect Failure & Stay Adaptable   🎧 Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations on performance, recovery, and the future of rehab. Drop a comment if you've tried NAD therapy or are curious about proactive care! #PhysicalTherapy #SportsRecovery #NADTherapy #HealthcareInnovation #MuscleLab
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 9min

Objective Data, Better Outcomes: How VALD is Elevating PT Standards

Can physical therapy evolve without data? In this deep-dive conversation, clinical leaders from Prehab and Vald come together to explore how technology and objective data are reshaping rehab and performance — and why so many clinicians are still stuck in outdated methods. From the first handheld dynamometer purchase to building global tools that elevate care, this episode uncovers the real-world frustrations, breakthroughs, and opportunities in modern physical therapy.   Whether you're a seasoned clinician or a PT student, you'll walk away with insights that challenge how we think about clinical decision-making, patient outcomes, and proving value in a changing healthcare landscape.   In this episode, we discuss Why “trusting the process” isn’t enough — and how to prove your value with data The hidden cost of not measuring outcomes in rehab What it takes to get clinic buy-in on tech (even if you're the only one using it) How tools like force plates and handheld dynamometers are being used across the rehab continuum Why the future of PT demands better systems, not just better clinicians   Subscribe for more episodes on performance rehab, clinical innovation, and technology that moves the field forward. #physicaltherapy #rehabtech #clinicaltools #prehab #sportsperformance Looking for more programming? Check out all of our content on the Prehab App: https://theprehabguys.com/membership Timestamps 00:00:00 — Intro: Why Objective Data Is the Future of Physical Therapy 00:01:45 — Introduction & Early Career Reflections 00:07:55 — Research and Validation of Clinical Testing Tools 00:11:10 — Orthopedic Residency: Building Clinical Expertise 00:17:46 — Challenges in Adopting New Technology in PT 00:22:18 — Why Data + Objective Testing Improves Patient Outcomes 00:29:35 — How VALD Came Into the Picture: Technology Meets Rehab 00:34:45 — Subscription Plans & Ongoing Customer Support 00:38:45 — PT-driven Products/Team 00:44:51 — Data’s Role in Enhancing Patient Engagement and Care 00:49:35 — The Future of Physical Therapy Is Data-Driven 00:57:10 — Building a Team That Drives Innovation 01:02:25 — Final Takeaways: Start Using Better Data Now
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Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 22min

The Science (and Myths) of Health Tech: VO2 Max, Wearables & Longevity with Dr. Todd Schroeder

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Todd Schroeder. USC professor, exercise physiologist, and co-founder of K2 Sciences, to explore what actually works when it comes to health and fitness technology. From wearables and VO2 max testing to EMG studies and AI-powered motion tracking, Dr. Schroeder breaks down the science behind the trends and shares what decades of clinical research really say. We cover what health tech matters (and which don’t), how to think critically about the data you're getting, and what role tech should play in your health journey. Plus, we get into the realities of muscle loss, why sleep is your most underrated training tool, and how innovation is reshaping physical therapy. This episode will help you cut through the noise and think more critically about the role of technology in your health. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:01 Meet Dr. Todd Schroeder 06:35 Founding K2 Sciences: Bridging Research and Innovation 10:10 How Technology & Data Is Reshaping Our Rehab & Training 12:20 Wearables, Tracking Data and Smarter Coaching 15:32 The Importance of Baseline Data for Rehab Professionals 17:40 Overrated vs. Underrated Begins 18:03 Fitness Trackers & Smartwatches: Accurate or Overhyped? 18:44 VO2 Max Testing for Non-Athletes: Necessary or Not? 22:05 Zone 2 Training vs. HIIT: How to Train Smarter 25:00 Three Sets of 10: Still the Gold Standard? 29:10 Clinician’s Eye vs. Motion Capture: What’s Better? 33:33 EMG Studies: Valuable or Overrated? 36:25 Can Motion Tracking Technology Replace Physical Therapy? 44:30 How AI Can Gamify Exercise 46:25 Sleep Trackers: How Accurate Are They Really? 50:02 Should Everyone Use a Glucose Monitor? 54:00 Handheld Body Fat Tools: Are They Reliable? 56:56 Cardio vs Strength Training As You Age 58:23 Minimal Effective Dose: How Much Exercise Is Enough? 01:02:25 Testosterone, Recovery, and Injury Rehab Insights 01:06:00 Lessons from Endurance Training & Triathlons 01:10:13 Nutrition and Sleep vs. Working Out: What's More Important for Health? 01:13:53 AI in the Exercise Space: Influence on Coaching  01:14:43 Women's Health, Recovery, and the Menstrual Cycle Myths 01:19:35 Final Thoughts: How Tech, Recovery, and Exercise are Evolving   Contact Dr. Schroeder: Email: Todd@MK2lab.com or eschroed@usc.edu K2Sciences.com MK2Lab.com @MK2LAB
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Mar 18, 2025 • 50min

The Future of Knee Surgery & Patient Care with Orthopedic Surgeon Dr. Nima Mehran

In this episode of The Prehab Podcast, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Nima Mehran returns to discuss cutting-edge advancements in ACL repairs, meniscus transplants, cartilage regeneration, and robotic surgery. He breaks down:   ✅ Why he left a large healthcare system to build a patient-centered private practice ✅ Meniscus transplants vs. traditional knee surgery – who actually needs it? ✅ The future of robotic-assisted knee surgery & its impact on surgical precision ✅ How biologic treatments (PRP, stem cells, injections) fit into patient care ✅ Why ACL injuries keep happening – and how to prevent them   Whether you're a physical therapist, athletic trainer, chiropractor, or surgeon, this episode is packed with evidence-based insights you can use to improve patient outcomes and understand where orthopedic care is headed.   Timestamps: [need to be adjusted & finalized] 00:00 - Introduction: Meet Dr. Nima Mehran 00:40 - Why Dr. Nima left a large healthcare system for private practice 03:00 - The biggest problems in modern healthcare & patient care challenges 07:22 - The future of healthcare: What needs to change? 11:22 - Common knee injuries: ACL tears, meniscus injuries, arthritis 15:54 - Meniscus transplants vs. repairs: Who actually needs surgery? 19:38 - Cartilage transplants & regeneration: What works and what doesn’t? 26:04 - The rise of robotic-assisted knee surgery: Game-changer or hype? 29:28 - PRP, stem cells, and biologics: Do they actually work for knee injuries? 35:31 - Why ACL injuries keep happening – and how to prevent them 40:58 - Prehab, rehab & surgical recovery: What every clinician should know 46:02 - Where to follow Dr. Nima & final takeaways     Today's Sponsor: This episode is brought to you by Jane, a clinic management software and EMR that has been a game-changer for us at Prehab PT. If you're looking for a smooth transition to better clinic management, book a 1-on-1 demo HERE.  https://jane.app/book_a_demo?utm_medium=prehab_guys&utm_source=ambassador&utm_campaign=book_a_demo&utm_content=static&utm_term=us_pt Use the code PREHABGUYS at sign-up for a 1-month grace Contact Dr. Nima Mehran: @drnimamehran https://www.mmorthopaedics.com Listen to the previous episodes with Dr. Nima : https://theprehabguys.com/podcast/acl-injuries-with-dr-nima-mehran/ https://theprehabguys.com/podcast/meniscus-injuries-with-dr-nima-mehran/ 
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Feb 17, 2025 • 37min

How We Built a PT Clinic That Puts Patients & Clinicians First (Growing PrehabPT)

In this episode of The Prehab Podcast, Dr. Michael Lau sits down with Dr. Adelle Smener to share the journey of building PrehabPT, their Los Angeles-based physical therapy clinic. They break down the challenges clinicians face, the flaws in traditional PT, and how PrehabPT is redefining patient care and clinician autonomy.   The conversation dives into: The realities of burnout and lack of support in the PT profession Why better options for both patients and clinicians are needed How autonomy and support improve treatment outcomes The unique challenges of running a PT clinic as a married couple   Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 02:14 - The Origin of Prehab’s In-Person Clinic 06:27 - Navigating Early Career Challenges in PT 10:48 - The Overlooked Cause of Burnout in Healthcare 13:34 - Searching for the Right Fit in PT 15:09 - How We Built a PT Model That Works for Clinicians & Patients 18:16 - Physical Therapy is Not One-Size-Fits-All 19:25 - You Didn’t Fail PT—PT Might Have Failed You 20:28 - How We Personalize Care for Every Patient 25:57 - Working With Your Spouse: Challenges & Lessons 33:37 - The Role of PTs & Access to Care 36:29 - Where to Find Dr. Adelle Smener  
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Jan 21, 2025 • 37min

How a Proper Bike Fit Can Prevent Injuries and Improve Your Ride with Lauren Mulwitz

In this episode of the Prehab Podcast, Dr. Craig Lindell sits down with Lauren Moritz, a biomechanics expert and professional bike fitter, to explore the world of bike fitting and its impact on cycling performance. Lauren shares her journey from competitive mountain biking to becoming a sought-after bike fitter, offering insights into how proper bike fitting can improve comfort, prevent injuries, and enhance efficiency for cyclists of all levels.   Learn the key components of a bike fit, the role of biomechanics in cycling, and why pre-fitting before purchasing a bike can save time and money. Whether you're a seasoned triathlete, an Ironman competitor, or a casual cyclist, this episode will help you ride smarter and stay injury-free.   Highlights include: The value of bike fitting and how it improves performance. Lauren's racing journey and lessons learned from pro cycling. Common bike fitting mistakes and how to avoid them. Practical tips for cyclists to stay injury-free and comfortable.   Timestamps:  00:00 - Intro 01:50 - Meet Lauren Moritz 02:41 - Lauren’s Racing Journey 08:39 - What Got Lauren Into Bike Fitting 14:09 - Why Bike Fitting is So Important 18:10 - Lauren’s Unique Approach to Bike Fitting 23:11 - Lessons from Racing and Preventative Training 27:15 - Is AI Bike Fitting Legit? 30:34 - Lauren’s Future Plans 34:00 - How to Connect with Lauren 35:07 - Advice If You're Getting into Biking   Subscribe for more expert insights on taking a proactive approach to health and performance!
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Dec 27, 2024 • 49min

The Future of Physical Therapy: Breaking Burnout and Driving Innovation with Josh D’Angelo

Josh D’Angelo, Co-founder and CEO of MovementX, shares his insights into the evolving landscape of physical therapy. He discusses the impact of burnout on healthcare providers and explores innovative patient care models. D’Angelo emphasizes the need for flexibility and autonomy in treatment, while also advocating for entrepreneurial thinking in the industry. They discuss how embracing failure can lead to growth, and why creating trust is essential for effective patient-provider relationships. This conversation is packed with valuable takeaways for anyone in health and wellness.
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Nov 25, 2024 • 40min

Mastering Fitness, Business, and Life with Hunter Crine, Founder of Kettlebell Coach University

In this episode, Craig sits down with Hunter Crine, a seasoned strength coach, mentor, and founder of Kettlebell Coach University. With over a decade of experience working with everyone from Division 1 athletes to general fitness clients, Hunter brings a unique perspective on how fitness, mentorship, and a growth mindset can transform not just your body, but your life and business as well.   Hunter shares his journey from discovering fitness at 14 to building a global coaching business that empowers trainers and clients alike. Together, Craig and Hunter explore the power of kettlebells, the impact of mentorship, and the mindset shifts needed to overcome challenges and achieve your goals.   Take advantage of Prehab’s Black Friday deal! Get $50 off a full year of the Prehab app and gift a free year to someone you care about. Learn more HERE.   Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:29 Meet Hunter Crine 05:48 The Power of Mentorship 07:53 Stay Learning and Be Patient 12:28 Prehab Black Friday Sale 13:06 Why Kettlebells Are the Ultimate Tool 19:20 Group Training vs. One-on-One Coaching 22:13 Building Kettlebell Coach University 24:08 Embracing Failure to Achieve Success 30:27 Marathon Training: Lessons for Business and Life 34:03 What's Next for Kettlebell Coach University 36:34 Patience, Repetition & Discipline 39:17 Conclusion   Connect with Hunter Crine: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hunter_crine/?hl=en Kettlebell Coach University: https://www.kettlebellcoachuniversity.com/      
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Oct 22, 2024 • 1h 1min

How We Grew Prehab From 0 to 2.5M Followers: Revealing Our Social Media Growth Strategy

In this episode, we take you behind the scenes of how Prehab grew from zero to over 2.5 million followers on social media. Join us as we dive into our growth strategy, share valuable lessons we’ve learned along the way, and reveal the secrets to scaling a digital brand in the health and wellness space. From navigating the challenges of creating engaging content to adapting our approach as social media evolved, we break down the key steps that fueled our exponential growth and offer actionable advice for anyone looking to start or scale their social media presence.   Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:57 Kinsey's Onboarding Experience with Prehab 06:06 The Purpose Behind Prehab's Social Media: Educating on Physical Therapy 10:48 Early Social Strategy: How Consistency Helped Us Gain Traction on Social 12:57 Mental Hurdles and Why Healthcare Provides Should Share Their Knowledge Online 14:10 How to Get Started on Social Media in 2024 20:31 Evolving with Audience Needs 24:20 Standing Out on Social: The Importance of Providing Value 26:24 Being Patiently Aggressive with Social Media 29:37 How Our Social Strategy Changed as Prehab Grew 33:46 Scaling on Social: How Narrowing Your Focus Can Exponentially Increase Impact 40:07 Optimizing the Pacing & Format of Your Content 45:44 Current Barriers to Social Media Growth on Prehab & Our 2024 Focus 56:35 What Prehab Means & Closing Remarks   Today's Sponsor: This episode is brought to you by Jane, a clinic management software and EMR that has been a game-changer for us at Prehab PT. If you're looking for a smooth transition to better clinic management, book a 1-on-1 demo at https://jane.app/book_a_demo?utm_medium=prehab_guys&utm_source=ambassador&utm_campaign=book_a_demo&utm_content=static&utm_term=us_pt Use the code PREHABGUYS at sign-up for a 1-month grace period on your new Jane account!  
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Sep 23, 2024 • 33min

Relaunching the Prehab Podcast: New Insights, Same Mission | Dr. Arash, Dr. Craig, and Dr. Michael

In this episode of the Prehab Podcast, Dr. Arah, Craig, and Mike reunite after over a year to relaunch the show with fresh insights and exciting new content. The team dives deep into the evolution of the podcast, sharing what’s changed and what remains constant—helping people take a proactive approach to their health. The conversation covers everything from the shift toward asynchronous care, addressing the abundance of health information online, and the importance of providing high-quality, accessible physical therapy. The hosts explore how Prehab has grown, what’s coming next with their app, and their ongoing mission to make healthcare more proactive and preventative. Get behind-the-scenes insights into their entrepreneurial journey, health tips, and the challenges they’ve faced along the way. Whether you're a longtime listener or new to Prehab, this episode has something for everyone! Tune in and get ready for more insightful, actionable discussions about health, wellness, and the future of physical therapy!   If you're ready to take the next step in your own health journey, download the Prehab app for personalized programs that support your goals: https://theprehabguys.com/?wpsrc=Youtube&utm_campaign=evergreen&utm_source=youtube&utm_content=evergreen&utm_term=evergreen&utm_medium=video Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:44 Why We’re Bringing Back the Podcast 02:48 Changes in Healthcare & Providing Access to Quality Information 05:39 The Importance of Early Intervention in Physical Therapy 06:33 The Evolution of Prehab's Content Strategy 09:08 The Abundance of Information Available Today 11:55 Providing Asynchronous Care 12:59 Symptom Management vs Long-Term Solutions 17:49 Movement is Medicine 19:37 How Prehab has Evolved  22:42 Physical Therapists as Entrepreneurs 23:59 Improving the Prehab App 28:42 What's Next for Prehab 32:53 Final Thoughts  

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